Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

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It is clear that you and TS have never been involved in real frontline ministry or you would not deny that angels and demons are real entities distinct from man that influence man for good or evil. You would also not deny Satan is a real unique entity separate from but controlling evil men. That is why both of you have avoided a multitude of posts above and have run. You have to. Your whole argument is untenable and unbiblical. It is you both who are "lacking in understanding you appear to be regarding the spiritual realm."

Let's think about this logically. In the beginning there was only one man and one woman initially. Why then would satan need billions and billions of literal fallen angels in order to deceive 2 ppl?

satan is clearly a literal being and so are demons. But where do demons initially come from? For all we know demons might simply be lost humans that have died and are looking for another body to inhabit. I'm not dogmatic about that, yet it might explain things, though.

Initially I thought Revelation 12 explained these things. That was until I actually started reading that chapter closer. None of it is meaning in the beginning nor before the beginning pertaining to Genesis 1. When satan and his angels are cast out of heaven that is either meaning during the time of the ascension or future still. Genesis 1 is not an option.

What then supports literal angels rebelling with satan in the beginning since Revelation 12 does not support this?
 
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It is clear that you and TS have never been involved in real frontline ministry or you would not deny that angels and demons are real entities distinct from man that influence man for good or evil. You would also not deny Satan is a real unique entity separate from but controlling evil men. That is why both of you have avoided a multitude of posts above and have run. You have to. Your whole argument is untenable and unbiblical. It is you both who are "lacking in understanding you appear to be regarding the spiritual realm."

I suppose this is what one would expect from someone who believes God created Satan to be good, but Satan proved he was more powerful than God through disobedience and became evil! sml
 

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I suppose this is what one would expect from someone who believes God created Satan to be good, but Satan proved he was more powerful than God through disobedience and became evil! sml

What an argument. God also initially created man to be good, yet look what happened, regardless.
 
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What an argument. God also initially created man to be good, yet look what happened, regardless.

That's the crux of the argument David. Man was created "very good" and through deception from the EVIL ONE man became of the same nature as the vioce they listened to. Satan, regardless of what mythology being passed down from days of Old wants us to believe, was NOT created a good angel of God who became evil Satan when he disobeyed God.
 

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It is clear that you and TS have never been involved in real frontline ministry or you would not deny that angels and demons are real entities distinct from man that influence man for good or evil. You would also not deny Satan is a real unique entity separate from but controlling evil men. That is why both of you have avoided a multitude of posts above and have run. You have to. Your whole argument is untenable and unbiblical. It is you both who are "lacking in understanding you appear to be regarding the spiritual realm."

Being involved in frontline ministry is confronting falsehood and all manner of evil that abounds toward the Church coming from PEOPLE doing the deeds of the evil master they serve. Since the coming of Christ messengers of God cast our devils and demons through the gospel of the Kingdom of God we proclaim.
 

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That's the crux of the argument David. Man was created "very good" and through deception from the EVIL ONE man became of the same nature as the vioce they listened to. Satan, regardless of what mythology being passed down from days of Old wants us to believe, was NOT created a good angel of God who became evil Satan when he disobeyed God.
Most people believe God created all things in the beginning, and as you noticed, God said the created things were very good.
31 And God saw every thing that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Yet you say Satan was not created very good and later on fell into an evil nature, that Satan was always evil, yet God tells us His whole creation was very good.

What your logic leads to is God lied cause God made Satan evil.
Or even that evil preexisted the creation of God, God not having made all things.
Do you see the logical error in what you believe?
Your view just does not fit reality.
 

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Most people believe God created all things in the beginning, and as you noticed, God said the created things were very good.
31 And God saw every thing that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Yet you say Satan was not created very good and later on fell into an evil nature, that Satan was always evil, yet God tells us His whole creation was very good.

What your logic leads to is God lied cause God made Satan evil.
Or even that evil preexisted the creation of God, God not having made all things.
Do you see the logical error in what you believe?
Your view just does not fit reality.

You're assuming the serpent being more subtle [cunning (usually in a bad sense):—crafty, prudent, subtil] than any beast of the field was not "very good" as the vehicle God intended to use that mankind might experience good and evil which they had not when God created man. How would mankind know good and evil without being introduced to (experiencing) good and evil?

Genesis 3:1 (KJV) Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Does this verse tell us the serpent was CREATED good, and became evil? Or does it tell us only that the serpent WAS more subtle....?
Whether God created the darkness or simply spoke light into the darkness that was there when God created all things, makes no difference. Because the darkness nonetheless is used as a metaphor throughout the Bible as evil, and even the domain of evil spirits.

I believe your assumptions are based upon mythology that has been passed down from men of Old through the ages.
 

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I suppose this is what one would expect from someone who believes God created Satan to be good, but Satan proved he was more powerful than God through disobedience and became evil! sml
Twisting what someone believes in an attempt to undermine their position is a sign of weakness.
 

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Twisting what someone believes in an attempt to undermine their position is a sign of weakness.

You don't appreciate when you believe your views have been deliberately twisted and undermined huh? That should teach you to not twist and undermine the views of others because it is a sign of weakness. At least no one in this thread that I'm aware of has called you a heretic and accused you of heresy, among other things!
 

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You don't appreciate when you believe your views have been deliberately twisted and undermined huh? That should teach you to not twist and undermine the views of others because it is a sign of weakness. At least no one in this thread that I'm aware of has called you a heretic and accused you of heresy, among other things!
I do not believe either of you are heretics.

What have i twisted of what you believe?
 

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I've already told you what I believe. But you aren't content with that, because you want to know if I too agree that mankind is the spirit that resides in us, believing there are no spirit messengers of God called angels or spirit messengers of Satan called devils and demons, because we are messengers of either God or Satan. But in saying this I would be giving you more fodder to prove how lacking in understanding you appear to be regarding the spiritual realm. Would I use the exact wording for what I believe regarding spirits as TS does, no! However, I agree 100% with him in the way I understand what he is saying. As I've already said, "When we speak of humanity as being spirits of devils, demons, or angels of God, we mean that mankind by their actions/inactions prove themselves to be the instruments of power for the master's we serve, by how we live clothed in mortal flesh in this world. When we live in unbelief serving the master over sin and death, our body of flesh is used to deceive, to lie, to steal, and kill etc., there is no limit to what fallen man might do as they willfully serve the master over sin and death. The same is true of all who have been born again. The Holy Spirit in us uses our mortal body to demonstrate to the world the fruit of the Spirit of Christ in us, that unbelievers might come to know the joy and peace that await all who have been born again." In this way, we are or rather the spirit within us (mind, heart, will and emotions) become exactly like the spirit/Spirit we serve. I believe this is what TS means when he says, mankind are the spirits that exist in this world, therefore we need to look within for spirits, for we are all of our father, and their fruits shall also be our own.
You guys talk so cryptically. I wonder why? Why do you avoid post after post that refutes your arguments?
  1. So, are unregenerate humans demons?
  2. What are angels?
  3. Are we angels?
  4. Or, do angels possess us?
Can you address these questions?
 

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You guys talk so cryptically. I wonder why? Why do you avoid post after post that refutes your arguments?
  1. So, are unregenerate humans demons?
  2. What are angels?
  3. Are we angels?
  4. Or, do angels possess us?
Can you address these questions?

Are we being cryptic or do you simply not like that we have come to understand doctrines in ways that does not agree with what you believe?

I understand that devils, demons and angels are spirit beings without human form. All of mankind at birth through natural spirit within us are sinful at birth, sinful from the time our mother conceived us. The spirit (mind, heart, will, emotions) within natural man is naturally born in evil, otherwise the Bible would not say we are sinful at birth and must be born again. Being born in evil having our father, the Devil of us. That's why mankind from birth is sinful, and in need of casting out our old spirit that serves evil and becoming a new spirit that serves good. We can only become new when we are born again through the Spirit of Christ. When the Spirit of Christ comes into our spirit, man doesn't become the Spirit of God, neither before being born again does man become the spirit of evil in us. Man, simply has these spirits/Spirit within, we don't literally become spirit beings whether spirit angel of God, or demonic spirit of Satan. But as I've said, man is so closely likened to the s(S)pirit that rules over our natural spirit, that we naturally become like them in all our ways (thoughts, words, and deeds).

Angels are spirits without human form called messengers of God, and demons/devils are also spirits without human form and are messengers of Satan. When man is doing the will of God through the power of His Spirit in us, we too are messengers of God clothed in human flesh. Bible translations muddy the water by translating human messengers of God as angel. When man, through the power of evil spirits do the will of Satan (sin against God) they are messengers of Satan that Bible translations also call angels. An example of this is when we read about the angels of Michael and the angels of the dragon doing battle. When in fact it should read messengers of Michael and messengers of the dragon are battling for supremacy in heaven. In calling demons/devils angels instead of what they actually are, messengers of Satan, adds to the confusion that causes some to believe Satan and some of his messengers are created angels of God that were created good and became evil when they disobeyed God.

We know that cannot be true because God tells us in His Word His angels are ministering spirits "sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation".
 

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Are we being cryptic or do you simply not like that we have come to understand doctrines in ways that does not agree with what you believe?

I understand that devils, demons and angels are spirit beings without human form. All of mankind at birth through natural spirit within us are sinful at birth, sinful from the time our mother conceived us. The spirit (mind, heart, will, emotions) within natural man is naturally born in evil, otherwise the Bible would not say we are sinful at birth and must be born again. Being born in evil having our father, the Devil of us. That's why mankind from birth is sinful, and in need of casting out our old spirit that serves evil and becoming a new spirit that serves good. We can only become new when we are born again through the Spirit of Christ. When the Spirit of Christ comes into our spirit, man doesn't become the Spirit of God, neither before being born again does man become the spirit of evil in us. Man, simply has these spirits/Spirit within, we don't literally become spirit beings whether spirit angel of God, or demonic spirit of Satan. But as I've said, man is so closely likened to the s(S)pirit that rules over our natural spirit, that we naturally become like them in all our ways (thoughts, words, and deeds).

Angels are spirits without human form called messengers of God, and demons/devils are also spirits without human form and are messengers of Satan. When man is doing the will of God through the power of His Spirit in us, we too are messengers of God clothed in human flesh. Bible translations muddy the water by translating human messengers of God as angel. When man, through the power of evil spirits do the will of Satan (sin against God) they are messengers of Satan that Bible translations also call angels. An example of this is when we read about the angels of Michael and the angels of the dragon doing battle. When in fact it should read messengers of Michael and messengers of the dragon are battling for supremacy in heaven. In calling demons/devils angels instead of what they actually are, messengers of Satan, adds to the confusion that causes some to believe Satan and some of his messengers are created angels of God that were created good and became evil when they disobeyed God.

We know that cannot be true because God tells us in His Word His angels are ministering spirits "sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation".
Will you answer my questions one by one please?
  1. So, are unregenerate humans demons?
  2. What are angels?
  3. Are we angels?
  4. Or, do angels possess us?
Can you address these questions?
 

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Are we being cryptic or do you simply not like that we have come to understand doctrines in ways that does not agree with what you believe?

I understand that devils, demons and angels are spirit beings without human form. All of mankind at birth through natural spirit within us are sinful at birth, sinful from the time our mother conceived us. The spirit (mind, heart, will, emotions) within natural man is naturally born in evil, otherwise the Bible would not say we are sinful at birth and must be born again. Being born in evil having our father, the Devil of us. That's why mankind from birth is sinful, and in need of casting out our old spirit that serves evil and becoming a new spirit that serves good. We can only become new when we are born again through the Spirit of Christ. When the Spirit of Christ comes into our spirit, man doesn't become the Spirit of God, neither before being born again does man become the spirit of evil in us. Man, simply has these spirits/Spirit within, we don't literally become spirit beings whether spirit angel of God, or demonic spirit of Satan. But as I've said, man is so closely likened to the s(S)pirit that rules over our natural spirit, that we naturally become like them in all our ways (thoughts, words, and deeds).

Angels are spirits without human form called messengers of God, and demons/devils are also spirits without human form and are messengers of Satan. When man is doing the will of God through the power of His Spirit in us, we too are messengers of God clothed in human flesh. Bible translations muddy the water by translating human messengers of God as angel. When man, through the power of evil spirits do the will of Satan (sin against God) they are messengers of Satan that Bible translations also call angels. An example of this is when we read about the angels of Michael and the angels of the dragon doing battle. When in fact it should read messengers of Michael and messengers of the dragon are battling for supremacy in heaven. In calling demons/devils angels instead of what they actually are, messengers of Satan, adds to the confusion that causes some to believe Satan and some of his messengers are created angels of God that were created good and became evil when they disobeyed God.

We know that cannot be true because God tells us in His Word His angels are ministering spirits "sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation".

@rwb said "We know that cannot be true because God tells us in His Word His angels are ministering spirits "sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation"."

God's holy angels minister to those who will inherit salvation, not the devil's angels.
They are called celestial beings.
They come and go from heaven where God is.

The ones who 'fell', fell to the earth. They left heaven to be with men on the earth, and they roam over this world seeking to devour and destroy.
Satan is called the prince of the power of the air

Jude 6
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And the angels who kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great Day—
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And angels that kept not their own principality, but left their proper habitation, he hath kept in everlasting bonds under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
AMP
And angels who did not keep their own designated place of power, but abandoned their proper dwelling place, [these] He has kept in eternal chains under [the thick gloom of utter] darkness for the judgment of the great day,
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And angels who did not keep (care for, guard, and hold to) their own first place of power but abandoned their proper dwelling place—these He has reserved in custody in eternal chains (bonds) under the thick gloom of utter darkness until the judgment and doom of the great day.
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And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.
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and the angels who did not keep their own position but abandoned their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains in deep darkness for the judgment on the great day.
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and the angels who did not keep their own position but abandoned their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains in deep darkness for the judgement on the great day.
CEB
I remind you too of the angels who didn’t keep their position of authority but deserted their own home. The Lord has kept them in eternal chains in the underworld until the judgment of the great day.
CJB
And the angels that did not keep within their original authority, but abandoned their proper sphere, he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for the Judgment of the Great Day.

Matthew 16:23
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But He turned and said unto Peter, “Get thee behind Me, Satan! Thou art an offense unto Me; for thou savorest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.”
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But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art a stumbling-block unto me: for thou mindest not the things of God, but the things of men.
AMP
But Jesus turned and said to Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to Me; for you are not setting your mind on things of God, but on things of man.”
AMPC
But Jesus turned away from Peter and said to him, Get behind Me, Satan! You are in My way [an offense and a hindrance and a snare to Me]; for you are minding what partakes not of the nature and quality of God, but of men.
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But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
CSB
Jesus turned and told Peter, “Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me because you’re not thinking about God’s concerns but human concerns.”
CSBA
Jesus turned and told Peter, ‘Get behind me, Satan! You are a hindrance to me because you’re not thinking about God’s concerns but human concerns.’
CEB
But he turned to Peter and said, “Get behind me, Satan. You are a stone that could make me stumble, for you are not thinking God’s thoughts but human thoughts.”
CJB
But Yeshua turned his back on Kefa, saying, “Get behind me, Satan! You are an obstacle in my path, because your thinking is from a human perspective, not from God’s perspective!”
 

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Will you answer my questions one by one please?
  1. So, are unregenerate humans demons?
  2. What are angels?
  3. Are we angels?
  4. Or, do angels possess us?
Can you address these questions?
No, the nephilim became demons due to their being partly of a spiritual nature.

Angels are entities with a spiritual nature. The term angel comes from their roles as messengers of God. Though it is imprecise as there are also fallen 'angels.'

We are not made like the angels, but the new body we receive will be similar to that of the angels.

Angels can possess humans, though it is uncommon. More uncommon than demon possession.
 

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No, the nephilim became demons due to their being partly of a spiritual nature.

Angels are entities with a spiritual nature. The term angel comes from their roles as messengers of God. Though it is imprecise as there are also fallen 'angels.'

We are not made like the angels, but the new body we receive will be similar to that of the angels.

Angels can possess humans, though it is uncommon. More uncommon than demon possession.
Can you enlarge on your statments?
 

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said "We know that cannot be true because God tells us in His Word His angels are ministering spirits "sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation"."

When you grab something said out of context you can make it say anything you want it to say!

In calling demons/devils angels instead of what they actually are, messengers of Satan, adds to the confusion that causes some to believe Satan and some of his messengers are created angels of God that were created good and became evil when they disobeyed God.

"We know that cannot be true because God tells us in His Word His angels are ministering spirits "sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation"

God's holy angels minister to those who will inherit salvation, not the devil's angels.
They are called celestial beings.
They come and go from heaven where God is.

The ones who 'fell', fell to the earth. They left heaven to be with men on the earth, and they roam over this world seeking to devour and destroy.
Satan is called the prince of the power of the air

It's foolish and shows a real lack of understanding the spirit realm to think the messengers of the dragon, translated angels were celestial angels of God created good but became evil through disobedience. We know what the so-called angels (spirit messengers) of Satan are because the Bible tells us the serpent, which is another name for Satan, was evil from the beginning at creation.

John 8:44 (KJV) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1 John 3:8-10 (KJV) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

You lack understanding of the spiritual realm because you cannot discern where "angel" is used to describe spirit messengers of God called angels, as well as human messengers of God who are redeemed man/woman. Nor can you discern where "angel" is translated to describe spirit messengers of Satan that are both human beings and spirit beings called devils/demons.

Michael and His angels do not fight against Satan and God's angels. That would be messengers of God fighting against messengers of God. Because spirit beings called 'angels' are sent from God to the heirs of salvation. Michael and his angels fought against Satan and his messengers that are unsaved humans as well as devils and demons. Because messengers of Satan, called devils/demons are spirit beings that exist to serve their master, Satan.

Look carefully at how angelos is defined. A MESSENGER ESPECIALLY AN ANGEL. The angels are messengers of God, and they do not battle against each other lead by Satan. Messengers of God called angels together fight against demonic spirit beings called devils/demons and have been poorly translated angels.

Strong's Greek Dictionary
32. ἄγγελος angelos (ángelos)

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ἄγγελος ángelos, ang'-el-os - from ἀγγέλλω angéllō (probably derived from G71; compare G34) (to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an "angel"; by implication, a pastor:—angel, messenger.

The Pharisees understand the difference between spirit beings called devils and spirit beings called angels, which is why they accused Christ of casting out devils through the power of the devils, that is the power of Satan.

Matthew 9:33-34 (KJV) And when the devil was cast out, the dumb spake: and the multitudes marvelled, saying, It was never so seen in Israel. But the Pharisees said, He casteth out devils through the prince of the devils.

The spirit messengers of Satan, called devils are not, nor have they ever been angels of God. They are demonic being, their deity, spirits of the air, gods of this world, belonging to the prince of the power of the air, Satan.

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1140. δαιμόνιον daimonion (daimónion)

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δαιμόνιον daimónion, dahee-mon'-ee-on - neuter of a derivative of G1142; a dæmonic being; by extension a deity:—devil, god.

Strong's Greek Dictionary
1142. δαίμων daimon (daímōn)

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δαίμων daímōn, dah'-ee-mown - from δαίω daíō (to distribute fortunes); a dæmon or supernatural spirit (of a bad nature):—devil.
 
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Will you answer my questions one by one please?
  1. So, are unregenerate humans demons?
  2. What are angels?
  3. Are we angels?
  4. Or, do angels possess us?
Can you address these questions?

Address the questions you feel I have not answered!
 

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When you grab something said out of context you can make it say anything you want it to say!

In calling demons/devils angels instead of what they actually are, messengers of Satan, adds to the confusion that causes some to believe Satan and some of his messengers are created angels of God that were created good and became evil when they disobeyed God.

"We know that cannot be true because God tells us in His Word His angels are ministering spirits "sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation"



It's foolish and shows a real lack of understanding the spirit realm to think the messengers of the dragon, translated angels were celestial angels of God created good but became evil through disobedience. We know what the so-called angels (spirit messengers) of Satan are because the Bible tells us the serpent, which is another name for Satan, was evil from the beginning at creation.

John 8:44 (KJV) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

1 John 3:8-10 (KJV) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

You lack understanding of the spiritual realm because you cannot discern where "angel" is used to describe spirit messengers of God called angels, as well as human messengers of God who are redeemed man/woman. Nor can you discern where "angel" is translated to describe spirit messengers of Satan that are both human beings and spirit beings called devils/demons.

Michael and His angels do not fight against Satan and God's angels. That would be messengers of God fighting against messengers of God. Because spirit beings called 'angels' are sent from God to the heirs of salvation. Michael and his angels fought against Satan and his messengers that are unsaved humans as well as devils and demons. Because messengers of Satan, called devils/demons are spirit beings that exist to serve their master, Satan.

Look carefully at how angelos is defined. A MESSENGER ESPECIALLY AN ANGEL. The angels are messengers of God, and they do not battle against each other lead by Satan. Messengers of God called angels together fight against demonic spirit beings called devils/demons and have been poorly translated angels.

Strong's Greek Dictionary
32. ἄγγελος angelos (ángelos)

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ἄγγελος ángelos, ang'-el-os - from ἀγγέλλω angéllō (probably derived from G71; compare G34) (to bring tidings); a messenger; especially an "angel"; by implication, a pastor:—angel, messenger.

The Pharisees understand the difference between spirit beings called devils and spirit beings called angels, which is why they accused Christ of casting out devils through the power of the devils, that is the power of Satan.

Matthew 9:33-34 (KJV) And when the devil was cast out, the dumb spake: and the multitudes marvelled, saying, It was never so seen in Israel. But the Pharisees said, He casteth out devils through the prince of the devils.

The spirit messengers of Satan, called devils are not, nor have they ever been angels of God. They are demonic being, their deity, spirits of the air, gods of this world, belonging to the prince of the power of the air, Satan.

Strong's Greek Dictionary
1140. δαιμόνιον daimonion (daimónion)

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δαιμόνιον daimónion, dahee-mon'-ee-on - neuter of a derivative of G1142; a dæmonic being; by extension a deity:—devil, god.

Strong's Greek Dictionary
1142. δαίμων daimon (daímōn)

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δαίμων daímōn, dah'-ee-mown - from δαίω daíō (to distribute fortunes); a dæmon or supernatural spirit (of a bad nature):—devil.
Sorry, this is the fringe. You are way off the path, way different from what the church has believed for the last 2000 years and before that the Jews.
This POV has no historical church standing by anyone of any repute. I chock this up as an end time delusion, just another of many.
 
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