When will the earth be 6,000 years old?

[MatthewG]

Hello 1stCenturyLady,

I always hated math and numbers in school. I failed math class, and college math. Loved counting money though.

Grace, and peace,
Matthew

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Were you taught evolution in school? I never was so I don't have to fight against myths in my brain.

You addressed the wrong post. I did not refer in any way to Evolution.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Personally, unless we wish to include man-like extinct apes we should start counting from the point where we get human writing? At the oldest perhaps 10,000 BC?

I think genealogies are subject to scrutiny. The earth itself is, I think, 4.5 billion years old. God is not concerned with time like we are, and indulges man in his sense of time when he comes into the picture.

God could be extremely patient as the earth gradually produces its fauna and habitat, and gradually creates the great variety of animals. He could then condense the activity in human time to produce results from human works within our much shorter time frame.

Or, God could've written out the whole Creation Story and recorded it on video that can be either slowed down or sped up. A 14-28 billion period of time could be rolled out in just thousands of years if He hit Fast Forward? ;)

I don't know--I wasn't there. But I tend to favor a more uniformitarian view that the time factor remained consistent from beginning to end.

I think you're the member for whom @1stCenturyLady intended her post that she'd addressed to me.

 

[Randy Kluth]

I think you're the member for whom @1stCenturyLady intended her post that she'd addressed to me.

Actually, I think she quoted you, PinP!

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Actually, I think she quoted you, PinP!

Please let her answer for herself.
Especially when my post never even alluded to Evolution.

 

[Randy Kluth]

Please let her answer for herself.
Especially when my post never even alluded to Evolution.

Why do you think I'm stopping her from answering? She is perfectly welcome to respond, as I am when you mention my name.

 

[HealthyShape]

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I would not call the Old Testament view of the world ridiculous or absurd, just limited by their time and knowledge.

 

[HealthyShape]

No.

Why? All of that is in Scriptures. Young Earth creationists have quite a hard time to answer why they take only something about the creation description literally and not the other things... even in the same book (Genesis) or even in the same chapter (Genesis 1).

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Why? All of that is in Scriptures. Young Earth creationists have quite a hard time to answer why they take only something about the creation description literally and not the other things... even in the same book (Genesis) or even in the same chapter (Genesis 1).

Why don't I believe the earth is flat??? My answer is still NO. And the Bible agrees.

 

[marks]

I would not call the Old Testament view of the world ridiculous or absurd, just limited by their time and knowledge.

No, you are saying that someone who believes a literal 6 day creation is like the one who believes the earth is flat. That's the logical fallacy of appeal to the ridiculous.

Well, I myself believe a 6 day creation because the Bible plainly states this. And I'm not a flat earther.

"In six days God created the heaven and earth and everything in them." Do you not believe this is true?

Much love!

 

[1stCenturyLady]

You addressed the wrong post. I did not refer in any way to Evolution.

What is your opinion of the geneology of Jesus recorded in the gospels? One of them goes back to Adam who was made on the 6th day, recited as and the evening and the morning was the 6th day. The "evening and morning" depicts this as a 24 hour day as were the rest, not a prophetic day or multiplied by billions of years.

 

[marks]

What is your opinion of the geneology of Jesus recorded in the gospels? One of them goes back to Adam who was made on the 6th day, recited as and the evening and the morning was the 6th day. The "evening and morning" depicts this as a 24 hour day as were the rest, not a prophetic day or multiplied by billions of years.

I think this passage is particularly specific on this point:

Exodus 20:8-11 KJV
8) Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9) Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
10) But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
11) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Much love!

 

[bro.tan]

I believe when the earth, sun and moon reach being created 6,000 years ago, Jesus, the Creator, will return to rule the earth for 1,000 years. God does things in prophetic language. Because the earth was created in 6 days, it is appointed to man 6,000 years to overcome sin until Jesus returns for that 1,000 year Sabbath rest of trusting in Him as He rules the earth from Jerusalem.

It is hard for me to figure out when that 6,000 years ends. According to the Jewish calendar, in September their new year reached 5,786 years. By the Gregorian calendar of Constantine we are in 2,025 plus 4,004 years equals 6,029 years which is probably wrong. No wonder man does not know the day, nor the hour. We can't even figure out the year!

Let's go to Genesis 1: 23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Right here is 6000 yrs.

Let's go to 2 Peter 3: 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

 

[ProverbsInPink]

2Peter 3:8
But do not overlook this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The Earth is far older than six thousand years.
If someone wants to count a day as a thousand years to support an errant myth then they must concur with the other false notion based on that accounting of time.
Jesus ascended to Heaven less than three days ago.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Let's go to Genesis 1: 23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day. Right here is 6000 yrs.

Let's go to 2 Peter 3: 8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

They were 24 hour days, but the mystery was it also had a prophetic meaning according to The Epistle of Barnabas, chapter 15.

Barnabas 15:1
Moreover concerning the Sabbath likewise it is written in the Ten
Words, in which He spake to Moses face to face on Mount Sinai; And
ye shall hallow the Sabbath of the Lord with pure hands and with a
pure heart.

Barnabas 15:2
And in another place He saith; If my sons observe the Sabbath then
I will bestow My mercy upon them.

Barnabas 15:3
Of the Sabbath He speaketh in the beginning of the creation; And
God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the
seventh day, and rested on it, and He hallowed it.

Barnabas 15:4
Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He
meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all
things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years;
and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of
the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six
days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end.

Barnabas 15:5
And He rested on the seventh day. this He meaneth; when His Son
shall come, and shall abolish the time of the Lawless One, and shall
judge the ungodly, and shall change the sun and the moon and the
stars, then shall he truly rest on the seventh day.

Barnabas 15:6
Yea and furthermore He saith; Thou shalt hallow it with pure hands
and with a pure heart. If therefore a man is able now to hallow
the day which God hallowed, though he be pure in heart, we have gone
utterly astray.

Barnabas 15:7
But if after all then and not till then shall we truly rest and
hallow it, when we shall ourselves be able to do so after being
justified and receiving the promise, when iniquity is no more and all
things have been made new by the Lord, we shall be able to hallow it
then, because we ourselves shall have been hallowed first.

Barnabas 15:8
Finally He saith to them; Your new moons and your Sabbaths I cannot
away with. Ye see what is His meaning ; it is not your present
Sabbaths that are acceptable [unto Me], but the Sabbath which I have
made, in the which, when I have set all things at rest, I will make
the beginning of the eighth day which is the beginning of another
world.

Barnabas 15:9
Wherefore also we keep the eighth day for rejoicing, in the which
also Jesus rose from the dead, and having been manifested ascended
into the heavens.

 

[Wick Stick]

I believe when the earth, sun and moon reach being created 6,000 years ago, Jesus, the Creator, will return to rule the earth for 1,000 years. God does things in prophetic language. Because the earth was created in 6 days, it is appointed to man 6,000 years to overcome sin until Jesus returns for that 1,000 year Sabbath rest of trusting in Him as He rules the earth from Jerusalem.

It is hard for me to figure out when that 6,000 years ends. According to the Jewish calendar, in September their new year reached 5,786 years. By the Gregorian calendar of Constantine we are in 2,025 plus 4,004 years equals 6,029 years which is probably wrong. No wonder man does not know the day, nor the hour. We can't even figure out the year!

I don't think it's possible to calculate it without referring to the genealogies, which the New Testament specifically tells us to ignore:

1Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: [so do].

Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I don't think it's possible to calculate it without referring to the genealogies, which the New Testament specifically tells us to ignore:

1Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: [so do].

Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.

Yes, I mentioned that in #31

 

[Wick Stick]

Yes, I mentioned that in #31

I was thinking more of the OT genealogies, but I guess one genealogy is as good (uh... bad?) as another.

 

[Jay Ross]

OT Genealogies only takes you so far in establishing a timeline of for God's plans for Mankind.

The OT genealogies only get you as far as the birth of Jacob, and after that it is necessary to use stated time periods like, Jacob was 130 years old when he was invited to go down to Egypt. That Israel lived in Egypt for 430 years. That there was 480 years between when Israel left Egypt and the foundation stone was laid for Solomon's temple. When Solomon laid the foundation stone for the Temple he built, it 3,149 solar years had passed from when Adam was created.

We are not actually told when Solomon dedicated the temple when God's presence entered the Temple, but I suspect that this occurred around 18 years after the foundation stone was laid in about the 22nd year of Solomon's reign. This marker for when the temple was dedicated as God's Temple occurred around the Year 3,168 after Adam's creation.

Ezekiel 47:1-12 provides a time span of around 4,000 years to when the final judgement will take place which can be understood to provide 7,168 total solar years that separates the creation of Adam from the time when the Saints will be given possession of the whole earth.

For me, knowing when the 6,000th year will occur is not that important we only have to know where we have stored our treasures.

If we have stored our treasures in Heaven, then any timeline calculation that we invent is irrelevant to where our final destination will be.

What is important is for us to be humble and repentant at all times in front of our God.

Shalom

 

[bro.tan]

They were 24 hour days, but the mystery was it also had a prophetic meaning according to The Epistle of Barnabas, chapter 15.

Barnabas 15:1
Moreover concerning the Sabbath likewise it is written in the Ten
Words, in which He spake to Moses face to face on Mount Sinai; And
ye shall hallow the Sabbath of the Lord with pure hands and with a
pure heart.

Barnabas 15:2
And in another place He saith; If my sons observe the Sabbath then
I will bestow My mercy upon them.

Barnabas 15:3
Of the Sabbath He speaketh in the beginning of the creation; And
God made the works of His hands in six days, and He ended on the
seventh day, and rested on it, and He hallowed it.

Barnabas 15:4
Give heed, children, what this meaneth; He ended in six days. He
meaneth this, that in six thousand years the Lord shall bring all
things to an end; for the day with Him signifyeth a thousand years;
and this He himself beareth me witness, saying; Behold, the day of
the Lord shall be as a thousand years. Therefore, children, in six
days, that is in six thousand years, everything shall come to an end.

Barnabas 15:5
And He rested on the seventh day. this He meaneth; when His Son
shall come, and shall abolish the time of the Lawless One, and shall
judge the ungodly, and shall change the sun and the moon and the
stars, then shall he truly rest on the seventh day.

Barnabas 15:6
Yea and furthermore He saith; Thou shalt hallow it with pure hands
and with a pure heart. If therefore a man is able now to hallow
the day which God hallowed, though he be pure in heart, we have gone
utterly astray.

Barnabas 15:7
But if after all then and not till then shall we truly rest and
hallow it, when we shall ourselves be able to do so after being
justified and receiving the promise, when iniquity is no more and all
things have been made new by the Lord, we shall be able to hallow it
then, because we ourselves shall have been hallowed first.

Barnabas 15:8
Finally He saith to them; Your new moons and your Sabbaths I cannot
away with. Ye see what is His meaning ; it is not your present
Sabbaths that are acceptable [unto Me], but the Sabbath which I have
made, in the which, when I have set all things at rest, I will make
the beginning of the eighth day which is the beginning of another
world.

Barnabas 15:9
Wherefore also we keep the eighth day for rejoicing, in the which
also Jesus rose from the dead, and having been manifested ascended
into the heavens.

I read from KJV so I'm not sure what you saying, but I gave you some key scriptures to understand how God looks at a day to man. I don't know what book you reading from.