The Bible - Fiction, or non-fiction?

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Jack

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I agree.
I actually believe that God's law of human conscience came from eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.
My post above that you were responding to was written according to the beliefs of the one I was replying to. (not mine)
And as of now, no response has been given by that person. (for whatever reason)

God's law of human conscience is what I refer to as God's law, the law that preceded the law given to the Israelites alone through Moses.
I outline the four types of law in this topic linked below.

But you said "I don't trust the Bible"!
 

St. SteVen

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I quoted YOU stevie. " No wonder I don't trust the Bible"!
Taken out of context.


Translating from ancient texts is tricky because the vocabulary in Hebrew has considerably less words to utilise than English. Also a translator translates through their bias.....as do we.
Yes.
And clarity is further confused by the definitions shell game.
Why do we need a secret decoder ring to understand the Bible?
This is Freakin' nuts. (no wonder I don't trust the Bible)

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Jack

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Taken out of context.
No it isn't! It's perfectly clear and consistent with your Bible attacks! "No wonder I don't trust the Bible"

Another of your quotes: "I'm not convinced that God wanted us to have a Bible."

Your constant attacks on God of the Bible are glaring, stevie! Just like a messenger of Satan leading humans to Hell Fire!
 
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ProDeo

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Aren't you whitewashing genocide?

Why are you doing this ???

I am 99.9999999999999% sure you are aware of the angelic interpretation of Genesis 6.2, the devil further ruining God's creation spreading his seed up to the point of v5 : The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

And so the Lord destroyed the satanic seed.

And creation was rebooted.

You know all that.
 

Jack

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The seed was from A&E. Their descendants.

Either way, it was genocide to murder everyone on the planet except for Noah's family.
Won't it be interesting on Judgment Day watching stevie call Jesus a murderer to His face!
 

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The seed was from A&E. Their descendants.

Either way, it was genocide to murder everyone on the planet except for Noah's family.

Calling God a murderer now? I guess there just isn't any question of your intent, is there?
 
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marks

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It's more than that. You stopped short of the full quote.
Was the atonement incomplete?

1 John 2:2 NIV
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 2:1-3 KJV
1) My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
2) And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3) And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

John 1:29 KJV
The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

John 3:3 KJV
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

John 3:18-19 KJV
18) He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
19) And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Jesus removed the sin of the world, but even so, you must be born again. If you don't believe in Him, you remain condemned.
 
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ProDeo

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The seed was from A&E. Their descendants.

Gen 6:2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose.

The sons of God were fallen angels mixing with humans producing satanic hybrids. The book of Enoch was popular in Paul's time and it lists all the gory details. And the apostle Paul was a believer of the angelic explanation of Genesis 6, as he said:

1 Cor 11:10 That is why a wife ought to have a symbol of authority on her head, because of the angels.

You know all that.

Either way, it was genocide to murder everyone on the planet except for Noah's family.

The good Lord destroying the satanic hybrids and its seed to save His creation (us!) is genocide ????

Saving the bloodline of Christ our Saviour is is genocide ????

I expect something better from you.
 

marks

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Saving the bloodline of Christ our Saviour is is genocide ????
Just like "homocide" is to kill a man, that doesn't make homocide equal to murder. There is self-defence, justifiable homocide, execution, all of these kill a man, but are not murder.

By the same token, genocide is to kill a race of men, but is not necessarily murder. And I am not going to by the one to impugn God's reasons.

Much love!
 

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St. SteVen said:
Either way, it was genocide to murder everyone on the planet except for Noah's family.
Is that what you really believe or are you trying to make some odd point?
If God wouldn't do that (global genocide) then the Flood story is myth. Take your pick.

Furthermore, the narrative has omniscient God lamenting His own creation. Would He do that?

Genesis 6:7 NIV
So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—
and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—
for I regret that I have made them.”

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ProDeo

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St. SteVen said:
Either way, it was genocide to murder everyone on the planet except for Noah's family.

If God wouldn't do that (global genocide) then the Flood story is myth. Take your pick.

What myth ??

Matt 24:37 For as were the days of Noah, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Matt 24:38 For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark,

Go argue with Jesus.
 

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If God wouldn't do that (global genocide) then the Flood story is myth. Take your pick.

I wouldn't call it genocide; it was judgment. It also ignores the context, which others have noted is found in Enoch. Humanity and animals had become genetically corrupted. If God had not done what He did, there would have been nothing left to save.

So, if it's not a genocide, then it would be making a false accusation against God. And if it was, then what? We are in no position to judge God. He is the one that gives life, and He can take it away.
 
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