What does God's character tell us about the Bible?

[St. SteVen]

Just prior to the 12:00 min mark this atheist YouTuber makes some interesting observations.

- If God is omnipotent and omniscient, then he chose to confuse his followers with the Bible and isn't omnibenevolent.
- If God was omnipotent and omnibenevolent, then he failed to realize his followers would be confused by the Bible and isn't omniscient.
- If God was omniscient and omnibenevolent, then he knew the Bible would confuse his followers but he couldn't do any better, then he isn't omnipotent.

Are these valid points? How would you respond?

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[TrevorHL]

Greetings "St. SteVen",

Are these valid points? How would you respond?

Although not a direct answer to his statements, my answer is contained in the following:

Matthew 11:25-30 (KJV): 25At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes. 26Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. 27All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.
28Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. 29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. 30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Kind regards
Trevor

 

[Charlie24]

Just prior to the 12:00 min mark this atheist YouTuber makes some interesting observations.

- If God is omnipotent and omniscient, then he chose to confuse his followers with the Bible and isn't omnibenevolent.
- If God was omnipotent and omnibenevolent, then he failed to realize his followers would be confused by the Bible and isn't omniscient.
- If God was omniscient and omnibenevolent, then he knew the Bible would confuse his followers but he couldn't do any better, then he isn't omnipotent.

Are these valid points? How would you respond?

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God could have written the Bible in a way that left no doubt as to exactly what He meant, but He didn't.

I believe it's the first stage of weeding out those like the guy in the video and the half-hearted.

"Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

 

[St. SteVen]

God could have written the Bible in a way that left no doubt as to exactly what He meant, but He didn't.

Pretty severe consequences of punishment for being so evasive?

Is God playing a high-stakes game of hide-and-seek with our souls?

I believe it's the first stage of weeding out those like the guy in the video and the half-hearted.

"Ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth."

If you knew more about the YouTuber, you wouldn't say that.
He was as committed as any we could name.
A secular education in science did dissuade him however.

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[St. SteVen]

God could have written the Bible in a way that left no doubt as to exactly what He meant, but He didn't.

Would you conclude then that God is not omnibenevolent"?

- If God is omnipotent and omniscient, then he chose to confuse his followers with the Bible and isn't omnibenevolent.

omnibenevolent
All-loving, or infinitely good, usually in reference to a deity or supernatural being,
for example, 'God'. Its use is often with regards to the divine triad, whereby a deity is described
to be simultaneously omniscient, omnipotent and omnibenevolent.
This triad is used especially with the Christian god, Yahweh.

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[Charlie24]

Would you conclude then that God is not omnibenevolent"?

- If God is omnipotent and omniscient, then he chose to confuse his followers with the Bible and isn't omnibenevolent.

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I'm thinking the Scripture can be a stumblingblock to those who are half hearted toward God.

God doesn't play games, it's all or nothing stakes.

 

[St. SteVen]

I'm thinking the Scripture can be a stumblingblock to those who are half hearted toward God.

It seems that whole-heartedness has not led to any sort of consensus on what the Bible means.

God doesn't play games, it's all or nothing stakes.

Which amounts to extortion. Believe or burn.

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[Charlie24]

It seems that whole-heartedness has not led to any sort of consensus on what the Bible means.


Which amounts to extortion. Believe or burn.

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Talk to God about His plans for unbelieving man, I have no time for heresy.

 

[Jack]

It seems that whole-heartedness has not led to any sort of consensus on what the Bible means.

Which amounts to extortion. Believe or burn.

And God will remember every word you have spoken against Him on Judgment Day!

You have my DEEP sympathy!

Hebrews 10:31
31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

 

[St. SteVen]

Talk to God about His plans for unbelieving man, I have no time for heresy.

Dangerous words.
By definition, Jesus was heretical.
That's why they murdered Him.

Hopefully you have time for Jesus.

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[Charlie24]

Dangerous words.
By definition, Jesus was heretical.
That's why they murdered Him.

Hopefully you have time for Jesus.

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I'm more worried about you having time for Him, with the threads you post.

 

[Jack]

Dangerous words.

Why? Your god wouldn't hurt anyone.

 

[St. SteVen]

I'm more worried about you having time for Him, with the threads you post.

Because Jesus wouldn't upset the status quo? (get real)

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[St. SteVen]

Why? Your god wouldn't hurt anyone.

If you actually met God, I'm worried that you wouldn't recognize Him.

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[St. SteVen]

God doesn't play games, it's all or nothing stakes.

If there are stakes involved...

... it's gambling.

It is nice to see you on the forum though. Been a long time.

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[Charlie24]

If there are stakes involved...

... it's gambling.

It is nice to see you on the forum though. Been a long time.

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Yes, it's been a while! Looks like we picked up where we left off, lol.

Glad to see you're still around. I had hoped you were repented of the UR.

 

[Jack]

Why are you ducking my questions stevie?

Is there any part of the Bible you believe is the written Word of God?

Which god do you believe in? No clue?

 

[St. SteVen]

Glad to see you're still around. I had hoped you were repented of the UR.

You say that like it's a bad thing. - LOL

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[Bob]

Just prior to the 12:00 min mark this atheist YouTuber makes some interesting observations.

- If God is omnipotent and omniscient, then he chose to confuse his followers with the Bible and isn't omnibenevolent.
- If God was omnipotent and omnibenevolent, then he failed to realize his followers would be confused by the Bible and isn't omniscient.
- If God was omniscient and omnibenevolent, then he knew the Bible would confuse his followers but he couldn't do any better, then he isn't omnipotent.

Are these valid points? How would you respond?

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Thank you for the post and questions.

The Bible is not confusing to me. God’s expectations from us, and promises to us, are laid out over many books, and clarified once and for all by Jesus (with elaboration by the Apostles).

Could it have been clearer? Sure, but remember it is humans with the brains God gave them that communicated God’s intent (exception: Jesus, from whom we receive the clearest expectations).

Analogy: A 2nd grader has just finished a week of VBS, and is asked to write down the principles of Christian theology. What might we expect? It is perhaps thus that God’s whispers to the faithful were received and written down.

Peace.

 

[Jack]

Why are you ducking my questions stevie?

Is there any part of the Bible you believe is the written Word of God?

Which god do you believe in? No clue?

Stevie's dead silence tells the story!