Make Sure You’re Following the Real Jesus

[Soyeong]

The real Jesus set a perfect example for us to follow of how to practice Judaism by walking in sinless obedience to the Torah. In Psalms 119:142, the Torah is truth. In Deuteronomy 13, the way that God instructed to determine that someone is a false prophet who is not speaking for Him is if they speak against obeying the Torah.

 

[GRACE ambassador]

And the Real Jesus Gives us His:

Grace, Peace, Mercy, And Wonderful LOVE!

Amen.

 

[bdavidc]

Every place the OT is quoted and the name belongs in OT= the name belongs in NT at those spots.

This has already been answered multiple times. You keep repeating the same claim without a single verse to back it up. The Bible never commands anyone to restore a specific form of God’s name to the New Testament. That’s your own idea, not Scripture.


The apostles wrote exactly as the Holy Spirit directed ~2 Peter 1:21. When the Old Testament is quoted in the New, it’s the Spirit Himself choosing how it’s written, whether using Kyrios or Theos. You’re not correcting the text; you’re arguing against how the Holy Spirit inspired it.

I’m not going to keep entertaining man-made tales or endless repetitions. The Word of God stands as written. If you can’t show chapter and verse for your claim, it’s not biblical truth, it’s personal opinion. Discussion closed on this point.

 

[Muna]

Scripture instructs us that we grow as believers by stages, I agree. But there is a clear line in the Word between spiritual immaturity and unrepentant hypocrisy. A new believer is bound to trip up now and again in their learning process, but one who is willfully, unrepentantly sinning has shown themselves to not be born again. “Whoever is born of God does not continue in sin, because His seed remains in him” ~1 John 3:9. Spiritual infancy is not a life sentence. “Like newborn babes, desire the pure milk of the Word, that you may grow thereby” ~1 Peter 2:2. God desires His children to mature as they increase in faith and in the obedience of it.

When a person is spiritually stagnant for years and will not allow correction, does not have any fruit of repentance in their life, it’s not immaturity. It’s disobedience. That’s what Paul addressed in the Corinthian church: “By now you ought to be teachers, but you still need milk, not solid food” ~Hebrews 5:12. True believers grow in holiness. The reason they do is because the Holy Spirit works in them “both to will and to do for His good pleasure” ~Philippians 2:13. “I’m just a baby Christian” is not a lifelong excuse one can hide behind. Growth is evidence of life. Where there is no growth, there is every reason to question whether the new birth happened at all.

True believers fall, but they do not remain in sin. They are convicted, and the Spirit corrects and renews them. “The Lord knows those who are His,” but He also says, “Let everyone who names the name of Christ depart from iniquity” ~2 Timothy 2:19. God’s children grow up in holiness. They do not grow up in comfort with sin.

This is the problem today. We preach love without speaking truth. We let people wallow in rebellion because we don’t want to be mean. But love without truth is a lie. Jesus did not die to make us comfortable in our sin. He died to set us free from our sin. “You shall call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins” ~Matthew 1:21. When people use the term “love” to get out of obedience to God, they are guilty of spreading a false gospel. Scripture says, “By this we know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments” ~1 John 2:3. God loves us enough not to leave us in our sin. He loves us enough to want to change us. If you are a true follower of Christ, you will want the same. Any message that leaves people in bondage to anything is not the gospel of Christ.

That was a beautifully written post, heres a few scriptures to the effect

Because it says here

Prov 27:5 Open rebuke is better than secret love.

And yet right here it also says

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart:
thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

And now in Jesus

Rev 3:18 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

The one appears to equate hating your brother is suffering sin upon him since Jesus equates as many as he loves he rebukes, just as an open rebuke is better than secret love.

 

[Keiw]

So either you don't know the history, and steadfastly close your eyes so you won't see it, or you do know it, and steadfastly deny the significance of what you know.

Between us 2 different truths, yet only 1 is truth. Satan has a huge illusion going on for one of us. You use words of men, i used the bible.
The teachings of Jesus in every translation on earth back the JW religion= 0 doubt.

 

[Keiw]

This has already been answered multiple times. You keep repeating the same claim without a single verse to back it up. The Bible never commands anyone to restore a specific form of God’s name to the New Testament. That’s your own idea, not Scripture.


The apostles wrote exactly as the Holy Spirit directed ~2 Peter 1:21. When the Old Testament is quoted in the New, it’s the Spirit Himself choosing how it’s written, whether using Kyrios or Theos. You’re not correcting the text; you’re arguing against how the Holy Spirit inspired it.

I’m not going to keep entertaining man-made tales or endless repetitions. The Word of God stands as written. If you can’t show chapter and verse for your claim, it’s not biblical truth, it’s personal opinion. Discussion closed on this point.

Some( Matt 7:21) live now to do Jesus' Fathers will over self). These know 100% Jesus' Father will = his name in his bible in every spot he willed it to be because he wants it there. Jesus lives 24/7-365 doing his Fathers will, so do his true followers. The world best take a real good look because Jesus ( Luke 17:26) compares these last days to Noah's day( 99.9% mislead).
Why do you think there are so many different Religions? Jesus is with 1---( 1Cor 1:10)- Unity of thought( all of Gods truth) no division. So not hundreds of different religions claiming to be Christian, but the one the teachings of Jesus back all the way.

 

[One 2 question]

This is about knowing the living Christ who died, rose, and is coming back as Judge and King. He said, “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me” (John 10:27). Make sure you’re one of His sheep. Get in His Word. Get on your knees. Get right with Him today. Because tomorrow isn’t promised, but His Word stands forever.

Yes. The real Jesus Who is currently in heaven and sitting beside His Father. The real living Jesus Who we live inside while sitting beside our Father. From here we can hear from our Father directly which is amazing. The real Good Shepherd speaks to His real followers into our real circumstances in real time. No having to go through a medium, be it a person or book. Now this is really amazing hey.

 

[Prycejosh1987]

This isn’t about church membership. This isn’t about being spiritual. This is about knowing the living Christ who died, rose, and is coming back as Judge and King. He said, “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me” (John 10:27). Make sure you’re one of His sheep. Get in His Word. Get on your knees. Get right with Him today. Because tomorrow isn’t promised, but His Word stands forever.

I agree. Church membership and being spiritual are terms the loose followers of Christ assume. To me though church membership matters for personal growth and support. I am spiritual i assume the position of child of God. God is spirit.

 

[One 2 question]

5thI agree. Church membership and being spiritual are terms the loose followers of Christ assume. To me though church membership matters for personal growth and support. I am spiritual i assume the position of child of God. God is spirit.

Is local church membership essential? And does that mean to be sworn in by other sworn in members? Did this practice start with Jesus? I mean, did He swear in all His disciples in His day? What was His actual protocol for local church membership? Or was it national (Jewish) church membership? Which became global church membership ie. Roman Catholic Church, Church of England.

I'm guessing some will question, what are the conditions of church membership spelt out in the scriptures?

 

[amigo de christo]

How do you know? Personally, how do you know your faith is real? That Jesus is real? That your faith is in the real Jesus?

Much love!

good question . and now for the simple answer .
SO simple even a child can see it .
HOW does one know their faith IS IN THE TRUE JESUS and not in some other version .
OPEN BIBLE , READ BIBLE . YOU SEE whose words YOU BELEIVE , or whose words Do you twist and omit
FOR THE DOCTRINES OF MEN .
oops .
IF we do not love the T RUTH , AND HIS WORDS ARE TRUTH AS HE IS TRUTH .
WELL THEN , OUR FAITH IS DEAD as a door nail .

 

[Marvelloustime]

good question . and now for the simple answer .
SO simple even a child can see it .
HOW does one know their faith IS IN THE TRUE JESUS and not in some other version .
OPEN BIBLE , READ BIBLE . YOU SEE whose words YOU BELEIVE , or whose words Do you twist and omit
FOR THE DOCTRINES OF MEN .
oops .
IF we do not love the T RUTH , AND HIS WORDS ARE TRUTH AS HE IS TRUTH .
WELL THEN , OUR FAITH IS DEAD as a door nail .

@amigo de christo

 

[bdavidc]

I agree. Church membership and being spiritual are terms the loose followers of Christ assume. To me though church membership matters for personal growth and support. I am spiritual i assume the position of child of God. God is spirit.

Christ truly is the center. On that point there is no disagreement. He died, He rose, and He is coming again as Judge and King ~Acts 17:31. His sheep hear His voice and follow Him ~John 10:27.

But Scripture also defines what it means to be one of His sheep. It is not a self-assumed position. No one becomes a child of God by calling himself spiritual. “As many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His name” ~John 1:12. Sonship is given by God, not claimed by man.

You say church membership matters for growth and support. Scripture agrees with the purpose, though it never speaks in modern membership language. Believers are commanded not to forsake assembling together ~Hebrews 10:24–25, to be joined to the body ~1 Corinthians 12:12–27, and to submit to godly oversight ~Hebrews 13:17. That is obedience flowing from salvation, not a substitute for it.

You also say, “I am spiritual.” Scripture warns us to be careful with that language. God is spirit ~John 4:24, yes. But Scripture does not define spirituality as a label we apply to ourselves. It defines it by evidence. “If any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His” ~Romans 8:9. And where the Spirit dwells, He produces fruit that can be seen ~Galatians 5:22–23.

Knowing the living Christ is not mystical or abstract. It is relational and obedient. “Hereby we do know that we know Him, if we keep His commandments” ~1 John 2:3. That is not legalism. That is Scripture’s own test.

Getting in the Word, praying, and walking rightly before Him are not religious performance. They are the normal life of one who has been made alive by Christ. “If ye love me, keep my commandments” ~John 14:15.

So this comes down to the same question Scripture always asks. Are we hearing His voice and following Him, or are we defining ourselves on our own terms? Christ alone saves. Christ alone gives life. And His Word, not our self-descriptions, tells us whether we are walking with Him.

That is sober truth, and it is loving truth.