Many Will Follow: The Rise of False Teaching in the Church

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1 John 1:9-10 says to confess your sins, and if you say that you have no sin then God's word is not in you. You ignore that. You're an easy believist who is under easy believism.

A person losing salvation can be proven in scripture, there are several scriptures that prove it, and there are countless testimonies of people who profess Christ/God yet get shown to hell.

You teach on Paul a lot, like he's the only one who exists. There's other guys besides Paul, like the guys in the old testament that God has used.
Now its time for me to shine a light . DO NOT KID yourself . paul never taught this pualine junk they do .
HE had kicked it right outta the church himself as false doctrine .
PAUL served JESUS . Pual taught not a word one contrary TO JESUS , to james or any other apostel who left us a letter to read .
MEN LIE friend . and LIE THEY DO . Many will wail in upmost terror and pain on the day of the LORD
FOR They followed MEN , NOT GOD .
And what a fearful day it will be for them all .
 
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Of course your claim is correcting false doctrine is starting an argument.

That's what the devil trains his followers to claim when someone recognizes the false doctrine being espoused by the tares.
Correcting false doctrine is not the same as starting arguments. However, calling people “tares” and implying that they are followers of the devil because they disagree with you goes beyond correcting doctrine.

You may judge what someone teaches by Scripture, but you cannot claim to know that person’s heart or final spiritual condition. “The Lord knoweth them that are his” (2 Timothy 2:19). Address the doctrine from Scripture and leave the personal condemnation out of it.
 

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Show me where I ignore any part of God's word.
Repeating my question does not answer it. You accused me of ignoring part of God’s Word, so show the specific Scripture I ignored and explain what I said that contradicts it. If you cannot do that, then you should withdraw the accusation.
 

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Correcting false doctrine is not the same as starting arguments.

To those adhering to false doctrine, it is


However, calling people “tares” and implying that they are followers of the devil because they disagree with you goes beyond correcting doctrine.

No, the tares disagree with Jesus by ignoring the whole counsel of God and choosing to be cherry pickers instead.


You may judge what someone teaches by Scripture, but you cannot claim to know that person’s heart or final spiritual condition.

According to God's Word those walking after the flesh are not in right standing with the Lord.


Repeating my question does not answer it. You accused me of ignoring part of God’s Word, so show the specific Scripture I ignored and explain what I said that contradicts it. If you cannot do that, then you should withdraw the accusation.

So quoting Oswald Chambers (looked thru some of your posts) who advocated for catholic teachings of experiencing "dark night of the soul" the catholic mystic "saint" John of the Cross is often cited as the source of this idea. The catholics consider this a crisis on a journey toward union with God and it's not biblical as well as advocating for celebrating "christrmas" are a couple of errors from the wrong path thou hast found thy self walking

When people support false teachers and unbiblical celebrations we know there's something wrong with their get along.

You're a supporter of the reformers, right?
 

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To those adhering to false doctrine, it is




No, the tares disagree with Jesus by ignoring the whole counsel of God and choosing to be cherry pickers instead.




According to God's Word those walking after the flesh are not in right standing with the Lord.




So quoting Oswald Chambers (looked thru some of your posts) who advocated for catholic teachings of experiencing "dark night of the soul" the catholic mystic "saint" John of the Cross is often cited as the source of this idea. The catholics consider this a crisis on a journey toward union with God and it's not biblical as well as advocating for celebrating "christrmas" are a couple of errors from the wrong path thou hast found thy self walking

When people support false teachers and unbiblical celebrations we know there's something wrong with their get along.

You're a supporter of the reformers, right?
You have dodged the question again. You accused me of ignoring the whole counsel of God. I asked you to show the specific Scripture I ignored and the specific statement I made that contradicts it. Instead of answering, you changed the subject and searched through unrelated posts.

That is not biblical correction. It is a false accusation. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” (Exodus 20:16). “Lying lips are abomination to the LORD” (Proverbs 12:22).

Either produce the Scripture and prove your accusation, or withdraw it. If you cannot show where I did what you accused me of doing, then stop repeating the lie.
 

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You have dodged the question again. You accused me of ignoring the whole counsel of God. I asked you to show the specific Scripture I ignored and the specific statement I made that contradicts it. Instead of answering, you changed the subject and searched through unrelated posts.

That is not biblical correction. It is a false accusation. “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” (Exodus 20:16). “Lying lips are abomination to the LORD” (Proverbs 12:22).

Either produce the Scripture and prove your accusation, or withdraw it. If you cannot show where I did what you accused me of doing, then stop repeating the lie.

Quoting false teachers such as Oswald Chambers and advocating for unscriptural observances such as Christmas both qualify as supporting false doctrine.

The falsehoods are coming from your side over there, so repent while you can.
 

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@Dan Clarkston is only here to start arguments. Just needs to be ignored.

See now that's a lie that you told there... so REPENT sinner!

Just because I called out false doctrine does not mean I'm only here to start arguments.

So you jumped up on yer high horse and accused me of telling lies when YOU are the one engaging in such.
 

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Correcting false doctrine is not the same as starting arguments. However, calling people “tares” and implying that they are followers of the devil because they disagree with you goes beyond correcting doctrine.

You may judge what someone teaches by Scripture, but you cannot claim to know that person’s heart or final spiritual condition. “The Lord knoweth them that are his” (2 Timothy 2:19). Address the doctrine from Scripture and leave the personal condemnation out of it.
Amen and well said! :Thumbsup:
 

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Amen and well said! :Thumbsup:
The solution being piped will soon become the law of this world and enforced upon all .
The pitters and dividers have done as was given them to do and have all along
in part being pumping unto their own sides that one same agenda and solution that will be ENFORCED
in the days ahead .
We must pull out now and put all the focus back on CHRIST and HIS WORDS , THE GOSPEL and now .
For any and all who have their hopes in men , mailman dan , THEY ARE NOT GONNA MAKE IT my friend .
GOD is our hope , GOD and THE LAMB be the only HOPE .
Time is truly running down and out and soon the inclusive god , who was always satan ,
and his beast who by means of an all out powerful AI digital system
Will enforce its law of rebelllion and of anti christ upon this world .
All not in the lambs book of life WILL worship the beast and dragon .
ALL of them mail man dan , ALL NOT IN THE LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE will worship the beast .
The ever so clever INCLUSIVE one who had sold them all a lie
and had long back infiltrated the churches through the false ones .
As john came long ago preaching REPENTANCE to make ready a people for CHRIST
these prophets have long back come preaching ACCEPTANCE to make ready a people
NOT FOR CHRIST , BUT ANTI .
 
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Now its time for me to shine a light . DO NOT KID yourself . paul never taught this pualine junk they do .
HE had kicked it right outta the church himself as false doctrine .
PAUL served JESUS . Pual taught not a word one contrary TO JESUS , to james or any other apostel who left us a letter to read .
MEN LIE friend . and LIE THEY DO . Many will wail in upmost terror and pain on the day of the LORD
FOR They followed MEN , NOT GOD .
And what a fearful day it will be for them all .
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1 John 1:9-10 says to confess your sins, and if you say that you have no sin then God's word is not in you. You ignore that. You're an easy believist who is under easy believism.

That ^ passage applies to a person WHO claims to HAVE no sin.

A saved person;
Has Confessed he has Sin…
Has Asked for Forgiveness of his Sin…
Has Been Forgiven his Sin.
Can Sin, No More.

His Status is “HAVING” “Forgiven Sin”…

Why bring up scripture of claiming to Have No Sin…
When no one is claiming to HAVE no sin?



person losing salvation can be proven in scripture, there are several scriptures that prove it, and there are countless testimonies of people who profess Christ/God yet get shown to hell.

It is NOT “IF” a person can LOSE “their” Salvation…
Rather… “HOW” can a person Lose their Salvation.
And the …
Answer to How a person can lose THEIR Salvation…
“IS Because “… they NEVER reached out and Took “Their Gift of Salvation” That the Lord, Bought, Paid For and Offered for them TO TAKE the Gift.

Anyone can buy, pay for, offer you a Gift….
If you do not TAKE the Gift… you do not Have the Gift!

Not a mystery.

You teach on Paul a lot, like he's the only one who exists. There's other guys besides Paul, like the guys in the old testament that God has used.

Sure.
Paul was EXPRESSLY given and accepted the assignment to Preach / Teach TO:
Jews, Gentiles, kings.

The “other guys” were to Preach / teach “Hebrews and Jews”.

Matt 10:
[5] These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

The Gentiles were “supposed” to learn by “Jews” example.

Acts 13:
[47] For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

Context matters.

God bless you

Glory to God
Taken
 

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That ^ passage applies to a person WHO claims to HAVE no sin.

A saved person;
Has Confessed he has Sin…
Has Asked for Forgiveness of his Sin…
Has Been Forgiven his Sin.
Can Sin, No More.

His Status is “HAVING” “Forgiven Sin”…

Why bring up scripture of claiming to Have No Sin…
When no one is claiming to HAVE no sin?





It is NOT “IF” a person can LOSE “their” Salvation…
Rather… “HOW” can a person Lose their Salvation.
And the …
Answer to How a person can lose THEIR Salvation…
“IS Because “… they NEVER reached out and Took “Their Gift of Salvation” That the Lord, Bought, Paid For and Offered for them TO TAKE the Gift.

Anyone can buy, pay for, offer you a Gift….
If you do not TAKE the Gift… you do not Have the Gift!

Not a mystery.



Sure.
Paul was EXPRESSLY given and accepted the assignment to Preach / Teach TO:
Jews, Gentiles, kings.

The “other guys” were to Preach / teach “Hebrews and Jews”.

Matt 10:
[5] These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

The Gentiles were “supposed” to learn by “Jews” example.

Acts 13:
[47] For so hath the Lord commanded us, saying, I have set thee to be a light of the Gentiles, that thou shouldest be for salvation unto the ends of the earth.

Context matters.

God bless you

Glory to God
Taken
lets expound a bit on the part of where you said HOW can a person lose salvation .
CAUSE Indeed you had THIS ONE RIGHT but lets now finish it .
AND IF ONE CONTINUES NOT in THIS ONE TRUE GOPSEL of TRUTH , IN JESUS THE CHRIST
but rather is moved away by an ecumiencal harlot and her interfaith lie of anti christ
THEN KNOW they NEVER REALLY KNEW HIM . so , what do you think about all this inclusive
ecumeincal , abraham peace accords interfaith . SURE HOPE you aint bought that lie my friend . IF SO
prepare to wail on JESUS day . we cannot preach TRUTH and a lie . We cannot BELIEVE THE TRUTH AND A LIE .
SO my advice to all is , GET THEM RUMPS OUTTA ANYTHING ecumeincal now , cause they lead you all to teh LIE
and some have already even bought the lie .
 

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lets expound a bit on the part of where you said HOW can a person lose salvation .
CAUSE Indeed you had THIS ONE RIGHT but lets now finish it .

AND IF ONE CONTINUES NOT in THIS ONE TRUE GOPSEL of TRUTH , IN JESUS THE CHRIST
but rather is moved away …by an ecumiencal harlot and her interfaith lie of anti christ
THEN KNOW they NEVER REALLY KNEW HIM .

That ^ Does NOT, Can NOT apply to…
The sav-ED…
Because the Sav-ED are kept sav-ED by the Indwelling of the Power of the Holy Spirit, which will never allow them to fall away and NOT Believe.

That Point of falling away Applies to “Unconverted, Unsaved” believers, who are Not indwelt with the power of the Holy Spirit, and rather rely on their OWN power to keep believing.
Which a mans power is Sub-par to evil angels, wicked men, influential people who are anti-Christs…and they can fall away…
Called falling from Faith…
Not “becoming” unsaved.

so , what do you think about all this inclusive
ecumeincal , abraham peace accords interfaith . SURE HOPE you aint bought that lie my friend .

I do not agree with you.
I do not believe the Abraham Accords is a precursor of trying to make one world religion, or imply all religions are the same under One same God, one same Lord.

The Abraham Accord is about establishing Peace Among Different Nations in the Middle East, in the World, and Different Religions.

The Abraham Accords Declaration
We, the undersigned, recognize the importance of maintaining and strengthening peace in the Middle East and around the world based on mutual understanding and coexistence, as well as respect for human dignity and freedom, including religious freedom.


IF SO
prepare to wail on JESUS day . we cannot preach TRUTH and a lie . We cannot BELIEVE THE TRUTH AND A LIE .
SO my advice to all is , GET THEM RUMPS OUTTA ANYTHING ecumeincal now , cause they lead you all to teh LIE
and some have already even bought the lie .

* The Peace- Makers are good in the eyes of the Lord.
* Liberty to choose and believe in your own god, is expressly taught by the word of God.
* Every Nation, Every individual has the FREEWILL to Accept or Reject the Lord God Almighty.

Don’t know what LIE you think the “Abraham Accord” is forcing Anyone to Believe.
When in fact it is Believe as your own Liberty dictates…. For yourself and every other person.
 

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That ^ Does NOT, Can NOT apply to…
The sav-ED…
Because the Sav-ED are kept sav-ED by the Indwelling of the Power of the Holy Spirit, which will never allow them to fall away and NOT Believe.

That Point of falling away Applies to “Unconverted, Unsaved” believers, who are Not indwelt with the power of the Holy Spirit, and rather rely on their OWN power to keep believing.
Which a mans power is Sub-par to evil angels, wicked men, influential people who are anti-Christs…and they can fall away…
Called falling from Faith…
Not “becoming” unsaved.



I do not agree with you.
I do not believe the Abraham Accords is a precursor of trying to make one world religion, or imply all religions are the same under One same God, one same Lord.

The Abraham Accord is about establishing Peace Among Different Nations in the Middle East, in the World, and Different Religions.

The Abraham Accords Declaration
We, the undersigned, recognize the importance of maintaining and strengthening peace in the Middle East and around the world based on mutual understanding and coexistence, as well as respect for human dignity and freedom, including religious freedom.




* The Peace- Makers are good in the eyes of the Lord.
* Liberty to choose and believe in your own god, is expressly taught by the word of God.
* Every Nation, Every individual has the FREEWILL to Accept or Reject the Lord God Almighty.

Don’t know what LIE you think the “Abraham Accord” is forcing Anyone to Believe.
When in fact it is Believe as your own Liberty dictates…. For yourself and every other person.
you keep talking about the SAVED .
And yet how many claim to be saved YET FOLLOW this ecumeincal harlot . Seems to me
like many BETTER start indeed seeing what jesus they been trusting in and following all along .
Cause i see lots of folks claiming and lipping this SAVED stuff , ONLY when it seems convenient .
WHO here is attached to and hoping in men that are Leading this ecumeincal intefaith dialgou abraham peace accords stuff .
claiming belief when its conveninet , usually when one is warning against sins and etc
BUT YET RUNNING to a fat unbelief lets all just pray with muslims and etc for world peace .
SEEMS to ME like many CONVENENITELY USE the gospel WHEN It suits them . NOT so much
when it gets in the way of this big ol world peace safety , MAKING BELIEF IN JESUS TOTALLY VOID mess .
EITHER WE BELEIVE or we dont . BUT SORRY BUDDIES IT CANT BE BOTH when it suits us . ONE or the other.
BUT NOT BOTH .
 

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Greetings bdavidc,
This is what our preacher in Charlotte, NC had to say last week:
I found the large list of various strange trends interesting and a warning of how easy it is to divert from the clear teaching and example of the Scriptures. He seemed to be in possibly a large Baptist meeting with an attentive audience and what he said seems to indicate that he is a relatively conservative, mainstream Baptist.

Some of what he said reminded me of one of my Baptist workmates. I had a fair bit of respect for him, and he was always friendly and pleasant. He and his wife were singers and they often sang together at their church and a few other Baptist churches. On one occasion he invited me to a Bible Study series which their Pastor was giving on the Book of Revelation. I was partially interested but declined as I had other commitments. Also I was very uncertain what perspective would be presented. It did not seem very long after this that his particular Church became divided and evidently the main faction remained and were persuaded with the introduction of Holy Spirit Gifts. My workmate left and joined a smaller Baptist Church and said to me concerning the other Church: "THAT is NOT the Holy Spirit". He retired soon after this and I only met him once at the local shopping centre. He gave the same warm greeting and smile, but then told me had a severe case of brain tumour and had only a short time left. His last words to me were: "We have a glorious hope". I regret not having spent more time with him in discussing the Bible teachings as I assume he was speaking about heaven going while I believe in the resurrectiion and the future kingdom.

Kind regards
Trevor
 

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The rise of false teachings has coincided with the rise of Postmodernism. Which is basically everything is relative. But especially related to self and self referencial truths. As mentioned by the OP everything is measured against feelings and lived experiences. This becomes the all important good that must be met as to how the gospel is applied today.

It is a powerful way of decieving people as it appeals directly to feelings. Making people feel good is being Christlike. Its hard to say no when someone is emotionally blackmailing others that the persons feelings must be met or its being cruel. It is playing on guilt.

The church has also become relative. It seems just like society can be broken down into ever increasing identity groups so can the church. Its more like the church has become like the dominant secular world in its ideology.

Whereas I would think Christ church was clearly different to the world. Even hated by the world. It use to be that the church was seperated from secular society. Stood on the sideline and offered wise counsel. Now it seems churches are just another identity fighting in the culture war.

I think many churches are now more concerned about being relevant to the culture and society than to God.

I think the way we can tell Christ church is with the fruits of the spirit. Gods word and Christs teachings are central and I think the early church fathers give us good examples. In such a relative world where there are so many opinions and words and meanings being fought over. It is Christs spirit that will destinguish the truth.

Its quite simple really. Cut out all other words and replace that with the gospel as said by Christ and His witnesses. Christ is the way, truth and life. Thats it. If the church is not for this then they are against it.

Christ said Gods kingdom was not of this world. Its not about making people feel better in this world so that they are fullfilled in this world. Its about the true peace and joy that comes with being Gods child. The true peace that only comes in Christ. Anything else is of this world. Is a lie to build a world kingdom of peace and happiness according to humankind.

The fruits of the spirit are different. They are the other side of the coin to the things of the world. They are self sacrificing for God in Christ. Living in the spirit and not the flesh. Being humble and quiet rather than loud and protesting. Secretly going about doing Gods work and being Christlike. Operating outside the world and not part of it and yet coming into the world and the world coming to the church in seeing the light of Christ.
 
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The rise of false teachings has coincided with the rise of Postmodernism. Which is basically everything is relative. But especially related to self and self referencial truths. As mentioned everything is measured against feelings and lived experiences. This becomes the all important good that must be met as to how the gospel is applied today.

It is a powerful way of decieving people as it appeals directly to feelings. Making people feel good is being Christlike. Its hard to say no when someone is emotionally blackmailing others that the persons feelings must be met or its being cruel.

The church has also become relative. It seems just like society can be broken down into ever increasing identity groups so can the church. Its more like the church has become more like the over arching and dominant secular world in its ideology. Its hard to tell the difference between an NGO and a church today.

Whereas I would think Christ church was clearly different to the world. Even hated by the world. Just like with the early church. It use to be that the church was seperated from secular society. Stood on the sideline and offered wise counsel. Now it seems churches are just another identity fighting in the culture war.

I think many churches are now more concerned about being relevant to the culture and society than to God.

I think the way we can tell Christ church is with the fruits of the spirit. Gods word and Christs teachings are central and I think the early church fathers give us good examples. But I think in such a relative world where there are so many opinions and words and meanings being fought over. It is Christs spirit that will destinguish the truth.

Its quite simple really. Cut out all other words and replace that with the gospel as said by Christ and His witnesses. Christ is the way, truth and life. Thats it. If the church is not for this then they are against it. Christ said Gods kingdom was not of this world.

Its not about making people feel better in this world so that they are fullfilled in this world. Its about the true peace and joy that comes with being Gods child. The true peace that only comes in Christ. Anything else is of this world. Is a lie to build a world kingdom of peace and happiness. Thats why its such a good deception. Because just like when satan tempted Christ in the wilderness he offered all the good feeling and fullfilling things of this world. Kingdoms, money, power, and comfort. Which are immediately satisfying and fullfilling.

The fruits of the spirit are different. They are the other side of the coin to the things of the world. They are sacrificing self for God in Christ. Living in the spirit an dnot the flesh. Being humble and quiet rather than loud and protesting. Secretly going about doing Gods work and being Christlike. Operating outside the world and not part of it and yet coming into the world and the world coming to the church in seeing the difference and true light of Christ.

There are many fruits if you think about it. All that is in Christ and the disciples and early church. Its more a disposition than what is said and done. I think Christians are being reproved and we will see Christ church more clearly as the truth becomes clearer. As a response to all the lies that have decieved many but never of Christ church.
Yes my friend and it was very deceptive indeed .
For if we examine its fruit , and compare that to the FRUIT of the SPIRIT
we now see a massive problem .
For the FRUIT of the SPIRIT is in all goodness , righteousness , and TRUTH .
I dont see TRUTH being taught . Rather i see TRUTH , due to it offends being removed for sake of that
which is pleasing to man . And paul well knew , For if it were to seek to please man
I would NOT be the servant of Christ . Our aim to please GOD . everything else would have come from THAT .
Our LOVE should have put HIM , CHRIST , First above all , THEN we had seen clearly how to love our neighbor as ourself .
But what did their love do ........
Well watch and behold this my friend .
YE shall NOT hate your neighbor n your heart , you SHALL CORRECT him and NOT ALLOW sin upon him .
THEIR LOVE said JUDGE NOT CORRECT NOT and IT DID leave sin and the e rror only begets more error .
ITS WHY the churches went so rapidly down hill after accepting this other doctrine of men which
was sold as though it was loving them . When in T ruth it was meant to inflitrate , reshape the image of GOD
into an image of a god of love that ALL religoins would and all peoples would , believe is GOD .
And friend , IT worked and is working on all who co mingle with such love .
This church age Dont realize , WHEN ya put TRUTH , GOD second to man , and try and please
man , You will literally destroy your church as in time leaven grows
and more and more sins , under guise of tolerance will not be corrected , and then in time even accepted .
And , oh yes there is a big and , AND THE WORDS of GOD will be seen as only more and more judg mental
and hateful as well . This was a major NO NO what occurred . And made them all ripe and ready
for the ecumiencal inclusive god , his love and his peace plan for the world . ONLY IT AINT GOD at all my friend
and by their peace they NOW D ENY the dire necessity to even have to Believe on JESUS .
And if one finds that hard to beleive , THEN GO TO and behold these interreligious interfaith dialgoues .
THEY LIE to the false religoins , to christendom and to all now . THE GOSPEL has been denied
and the new so called gospel for world peace is now what they do .
 

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Quoting false teachers such as Oswald Chambers and advocating for unscriptural observances such as Christmas both qualify as supporting false doctrine.

The falsehoods are coming from your side over there, so repent while you can.
What is my side? Yes, you're correct: the actual Biblical side.
You still have not answered the question. You accused me of ignoring the whole counsel of God. Quote the exact statement I made and show the exact Scripture that proves it wrong. Oswald Chambers and Christmas have nothing to do with your original accusation. You are correct; I do not have any problems with Oswald Chambers and Christmas.

If you cannot prove your charge, withdraw it and stop repeating it.

“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour” (Exodus 20:16).

Telling me to repent while you refuse to prove your accusation is hypocrisy. “Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour” (Ephesians 4:25).
 
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See now that's a lie that you told there... so REPENT sinner!

Just because I called out false doctrine does not mean I'm only here to start arguments.

So you jumped up on yer high horse and accused me of telling lies when YOU are the one engaging in such.
I am done with this exchange. You repeatedly refused to answer the actual question and kept turning the discussion into personal accusations. I will not continue arguing in circles.

“But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes” (2 Timothy 2:23).

I am placing you on ignore. Do not mistake my silence for agreement. It means I am no longer wasting time on an unprofitable argument.
 
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you keep talking about the SAVED .

Yes. Because the “Save-ED Believers ARE NOT the Same AS “Believers who Are NOT Sav-ED”.

And yet how many claim to be saved YET FOLLOW this ecumeincal harlot .

I don’t know WHO, HOW many or WHY some men Claim they “ARE” Saved.

I have seen, some claim they “ARE” Saved because they were “Water Baptized”.
Water Baptism, Does NOT save anyone.
Baptism of the Lamb of God, IS the Baptism that Saves.

Seems to me
like many BETTER start indeed seeing what jesus they been trusting in and following all along .
Cause i see lots of folks claiming and lipping this SAVED stuff , ONLY when it seems convenient .

I do think there ARE men who know NOT the difference…
Between … Believer AND A Converted Believer…
AND
Water Baptism AND Baptism of the Lamb of God.


WHO here is attached to and hoping in men that are Leading this ecumeincal intefaith dialgou abraham peace accords stuff .
claiming belief when its conveninet , usually when one is warning against sins and etc
BUT YET RUNNING to a fat unbelief lets all just pray with muslims and etc for world peace .

Your dialogue sounds like gobbledygook based on your personal interpretations.
Abraham accords is not about different religions “praying together or making one religion accept or participate in another another religion”.

SEEMS to ME like many CONVENENITELY USE the gospel WHEN It suits them . NOT so much
when it gets in the way of this big ol world peace safety , MAKING BELIEF IN JESUS TOTALLY VOID mess .

Sure people use Scripture When a passage applies to them…
AND…
Some people like to GASLIGHT and think themselves Qualified to decide what Scriptures Apply to OTHER men.

EITHER WE BELEIVE or we dont .

Not True! Every generation bit by bit, hear a little, wonder, doubt, believe….hear more, wonder, doubt, believe…
It’s CALLED “Tasting”

For some , many, it takes Years, before they Believe, And more years Before they…Decide to continue to Believe (Taste), Commit (Eat) or Walk Away (reject/ Deny)

BUT SORRY BUDDIES IT CANT BE BOTH when it suits us . ONE or the other.
BUT NOT BOTH .

Not true… a believer CAN waver, believe, doubt, not believe.

A converted Believer can NEVER Again, doubt, reject, deny.