What does God's character tell us about the Bible?

[Jack]

Here is something to consider: across the globe there are millions communities of people who are not Evangelical Christians, but whose cultures are equivalent (with few exceptions) to a culture of Love Thy Neighbor. They are people who believe in and practice sharing & caring, being gentile & peaceful, humility, life-long faithful monogamous marriages, . . . .

How do you know all that???

 

[Bob]

How do you know all that???

How do I know all what? That there are millions of communities of people, not Evangelicals, who practice Love Thy Neighbor? The list long. In no particular order—communities of devout Jews, Buddhists, Sikhs, (Japanese) Shintos, tribal communities, Catholics, Orthodox, . . . . They will not use the phrase Love Thy Neighbor to describe accepted behavior; it could be something like “harmonious living with each other and the environment.”

See also: Romans 2:14,15 and Acts 28: 1-7.

Peace.

 

[Jack]

How do I know all what? That there are millions of communities of people, not Evangelicals, who practice Love Thy Neighbor? The list long. In no particular order—communities of devout Jews, Buddhists, Sikhs, (Japanese) Shintos, tribal communities, Catholics, Orthodox, . . . . They will not use the phrase Love Thy Neighbor to describe accepted behavior; it could be something like “harmonious living with each other and the environment.”

See also: Romans 2:14,15 and Acts 28: 1-7.

Peace.

How do you know all that??? Sounds like you're leading people to Hell.

Jesus is the ONLY way!!!

 

[Bob]

Did these people, regardless of how good they may be, obey the commandment of God?

Acts 4:12

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."

Thank you for the response.

They may or may not know any Commandments. (See, e.g., Acts 28: 1-7).

So: you believe they are eternally in a lake of fire?

Peace.

 

[Jack]

Thank you for the response.

They may or may not know any Commandments. (See, e.g., Acts 28: 1-7).

So: you believe they are eternally in a lake of fire?

Peace.

Mk 16 He that believeth not shall be DAMNED!

 

[St. SteVen]

You cannot be born-again without confessing Christ and believing in the heart that He rose from the dead, as Paul plainly said.

I agree. Therefore...

Everyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead), will whole-heartedly, and without reservation, acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord. No one can say that “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” you will be saved. Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. (the reason for the bodily resurrection) Scriptural support below.

Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says,
“Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).

Further reading: Isaiah 45:23; Romans 14:11; Revelation 15:4

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[Jack]

I agree. Therefore...

Everyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead), will whole-heartedly, and without reservation, acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord. No one can say that “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” you will be saved. Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. (the reason for the bodily resurrection) Scriptural support below.

Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says,
“Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).

Further reading: Isaiah 45:23; Romans 14:11; Revelation 15:4

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Mk 16 He that believeth not shall be DAMNED.

Satan LOVES Universalism! He invented it.

 

[St. SteVen]

The Universalists can't understand there's a condition to salvation to be met.

It's neither grace nor a gift if there are conditions.

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[Charlie24]

Thank you for the response.

They may or may not know any Commandments. (See, e.g., Acts 28: 1-7).

So: you believe they are eternally in a lake of fire?

Peace.

We have been discussing this very thing on another website, Bob.

It's according to the knowledge each person had at the time they lived.

Dispensationalism sheds some light on this by looking at the different dispensations in time and the knowledge of God's salvation available at that time.

The bottom line is that no man in Hell will have an excuse.

We could discuss this further, but I'm kinda burnt out on it at this point, having discussed it for about 2 weeks.

 

[St. SteVen]

It's for sure that Universalism teaches disobedient man will not spend eternity in the Lake of Fire.

That is not only heresy, that is teaching man he doesn't need to worry about repenting for his sins.

Annihilationism teaches that as well. I don't see you saying such things about them.
And obviously, you still don't understand Universalism.

There will be consequences for everyone. No one gets a free pass, as you claim.
Jesus said that if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, because of the coming judgement.

There will be an age (aionios) of restoration; which includes evaluation, repentance, correction, restoration and redemption.

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[Charlie24]

I agree. Therefore...

Everyone who has knees to bow and a tongue to speak, in heaven and on earth and under the earth (in the realm of the dead), will whole-heartedly, and without reservation, acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord. No one can say that “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit. If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” you will be saved. Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. (the reason for the bodily resurrection) Scriptural support below.

Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

1 Corinthians 12:3
Therefore I want you to know that no one who is speaking by the Spirit of God says,
“Jesus be cursed,” and no one can say, “Jesus is Lord,” except by the Holy Spirit.

Romans 10:9
If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart
that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

Romans 14:9
For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that
he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).

Further reading: Isaiah 45:23; Romans 14:11; Revelation 15:4

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What matters is that it's from the heart, or it's nothing.

 

[St. SteVen]

What matters is that it's from the heart, or it's nothing.

Agree.

Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).

Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

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[Charlie24]

It's neither grace nor a gift if there are conditions.

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The gift is offered by Grace whether you accept it or not!

 

[St. SteVen]

What matters is that it's from the heart, or it's nothing.

Let's try another one.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

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[Charlie24]

Annihilationism teaches that as well. I don't see you saying such things about them.
And obviously, you still don't understand Universalism.

There will be consequences for everyone. No one gets a free pass, as you claim.
Jesus said that if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out, because of the coming judgement.

There will be an age (aionios) of restoration; which includes evaluation, repentance, correction, restoration and redemption.

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LOL, I understand enough about the UR to know it's heresy.

I guess you guys have to make it so complicated because you have no Biblical proof of anything you say.

All it takes is someone familiar with the Scripture to see your twisting.

 

[St. SteVen]

The gift is offered by Grace whether you accept it or not!

But you said there are conditions.

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[Charlie24]

Agree.

Note on "acknowledge" in Philippians 2:11 from Strong's Concordance
S1843 eksomologéō (from 1537 /ek, "wholly out from," intensifying 3670 /homologéō, "say the same thing about") – properly, fully agree and to acknowledge that agreement openly (whole-heartedly); hence, to confess ("openly declare"), without reservation (no holding back).

Philippians 2:10-11
that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

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Just show me where they get out of Hell and this will be over!

If you can't, stop the telemarketer scheme of post after post..

 

[St. SteVen]

I guess you guys have to make it so complicated because you have no Biblical proof of anything you say.

That's rather disingenuous. I've been providing scriptural proof.
Just because you disagree doesn't negate the proof.

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[St. SteVen]

Just show me where they get out of Hell and this will be over!

What part of every knee and every tongue don't you understand?

Let's try another one.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

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[Charlie24]

What part of every knee and every tongue don't you understand?

Let's try another one.

1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.

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