Countless billions have gone into the afterlife with no knowledge whatsoever of your evangelical gospel.
Was that God's plan for humankind created in His image? What good father would do such a thing?
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The Bible - Fiction, or non-fiction?
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Was that God's plan for humankind created in His image? What good father would do such a thing?
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Noone goes into Eternity not having heard the Gospel.
God is well able to get the Gospel to everyone, everywhere.....even if He has to use a WHALE or a Vision of Jesus, as is happening to Arabs and others in the Middle East.....even recently.
See, God is smarter then the Internet... smarter then AI, doesn't need a Cell phone..... and wiser then arrogant heretics who define His Gospel as "extortion" and imply that His Holy Bible "can't be trusted".
Let me give you 2 examples.
Even Tonight, all around the world........some old sinner...... dying of Cancer.. all alone in a Cancer ward. laying there in the dark.. afraid od dying.... .. God's Grace will touch them and reveal Jesus to their heart.
or.......someone in Prison for life........ in the middle of the night.........all alone.........can't sleep......and God comes to their heart, and opens their eyes so that they SEE Jesus and they believe.
See, "with GOD, all things are possible".....even something as simple as making certain that everyone has a chance to Believe in Jesus.
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ONLY God would know that! You ain't God stevie.
Has God ever asked your permission? You already admitted your bible is myth.
Your constant lying is getting pretty old.
Like many others, I question the source of some of the OT content.
I don't consider the whole book to be myth.
Revelation 22:15 NIV
Outside are the dogs, those who practice magic arts, the sexually immoral,
the murderers, the idolaters and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
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Quoting your Bible attacks:
"no wonder I don't trust the bible"
"I'm not convinced God wanted us to have a bible"
"I'm suggesting that the Flood story is a myth."
Jesus said the Flood is FACT. You say it's myth! Should we believe you or Jesus?
And here's what God said about Bible choppers:
Revelation 22:19
19 If anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Your problem is with God of the Bible, not me.
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The encyclopedia can be outdated and reflecting 19th-century perspectives and biases.
I did not find any current unbiased source claiming that there were "six theological schools" or that the places like Alexandrian, Rome, Antioch etc were monolithically for or against universalism. Or that such position would be even their main characteristic. Such claims are found basically only in universalist sources, websites, blogs.
Your perfectly clear ATTACK on the Bible: "I'm suggesting that the Flood story is a myth."
And you still haven't given Bible that proves the Flood is 'myth'.
And you still haven't answered my questions:
'Do you believe any of the Bible is God's Word'?
'Who is your god?'
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So, history somehow changed as time went on? - LOL
Unbiased sources?
Inferring that the The Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge was a biased source?
More likely that the bias of a modern encyclopedia chose to not include anything about Universalism.
"Such claims are found basically only in universalist sources, websites, blogs." ???
I showed you an encyclopedic source.
Are you a Damnationist or an Annihilationist?
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What?
The encyclopedia you quoted is not current. I did not find any current unbiased sources (let us not count unversalist websites) that divide Christian theology in the same way as the encyclopedia from the 19th century.
I am not interested in taking dogmatic positions. What will be, will be.
Someone who believes in a forever burning hell.
An Annihilationist believes the wicked will be destroyed. (gone)
Both views have biblical support that is contradictory. (obviously)
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That would be Jesus.
Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
If God wants it, then it will be true.
Why are you adding this character to all your posts? Removing it is annoying.
St. SteVen said:
Someone who believes in a forever burning hell.
Are you sure that Jesus wasn't an Annihilationist or a Universalist?
Matthew 10:28 NIV
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
John 1:29 NIV
... The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said,
“Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
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Someone who believes in a forever burning hell.
You are making questionable assumptions, as usual.
Are you sure that Jesus wasn't an Annihilationist or a Universalist?
Matthew 10:28 NIV
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul.
Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
John 1:29 NIV
... The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said,
“Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!
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While there are two or three verses that can be seen as supporting either eternal torture or universalism, I would say that the overall body of evidence is in the camp of the destruction of unbelievers.
There is actually a considerable amount of evidence for all three views.
This is an unbiased video on the subject. He doesn't take a position.
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No, I'm quoting Jesus. You should try quoting His several warnings of THE FIRE!
Nah, Jesus said THE FIRE is "FOREVER and EVER"! I've quoted Him several times. Has Satan blocked your brain from reading what Jesus said?
Do you believe that's Gods Word?
