Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord? Because of this, wrath has gone out against you from the Lord.
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In the prophecy of Thessalonians regarding the coming of the man of sin, the antichrist, I would like to point something out that most people are missing. The text says in part...
“Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. ”
2 Thessalonians 2:4 KJV
During His ministry on earth, Jesus defended the temple against abuse and misuse with much zeal and concern. He called the temple His Father's house, therefore giving it a definite identity as the temple or house of God. However. The last time Jesus left the temple He said,
“Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. ”
Luke 13:35 KJV
Your house!! Not God's house any more. And that was the temple the Son of God made holy by His presence. No longer His Father's house or even His own, but now belonging to a bunch of hypocritical self righteous murderers, who had rejected God by rejecting His Son. Now, back to Thessalonians. Paul is talking about a future temple. A temple later than that which Jesus ministered in, because Paul defined it as the temple of God. Not the Jews' house. That was destroyed in 70ad. But Paul is definitely talking about a future temple of God. A temple graced by the presence of God. His house.
The theory of modern Christianity is that Jews, who utterly reject Jesus as their Messiah, and cling to a religion that insults the Son of God, build a temple, offer sacrifices that are a blasphemous insult to the entire plan of salvation, and in the inspired word of God is called the house of God? Good actually approves of this and allows His Spirit to abide there? That makes absolutely no sense whatever, particularly when scriptures clearly and definitively identifies the NT temple as God's church. Therefore, the idea that the antichrist sets up shop in a temple in Jerusalem is way off the mark, and Christians the world over are supporting a concept that is satanically deceptive. Which leaves us with but one other option. Antichrist sets up his throne, and proclaims himself as God in the church.
The abomination of desolation, as brought upon God's people in a localised literal sense at 70AD, will be repeated on a global scale in a spiritual sense before the second coming. First brought about by the idolatry of pagan Rome as they planted their idolatrous banners in their desecration of holy ground around Jerusalem, but in the future brought about by the idolatry of papal Rome in a global sense by their desecration of the spiritual temple of God, the church. If you don't think the popes think they are God on earth, then explain this...
A great white throne...4 living creatures...2 cherubim.
“Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. ”
2 Thessalonians 2:4 KJV
During His ministry on earth, Jesus defended the temple against abuse and misuse with much zeal and concern. He called the temple His Father's house, therefore giving it a definite identity as the temple or house of God. However. The last time Jesus left the temple He said,
“Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. ”
Luke 13:35 KJV
Your house!! Not God's house any more. And that was the temple the Son of God made holy by His presence. No longer His Father's house or even His own, but now belonging to a bunch of hypocritical self righteous murderers, who had rejected God by rejecting His Son. Now, back to Thessalonians. Paul is talking about a future temple. A temple later than that which Jesus ministered in, because Paul defined it as the temple of God. Not the Jews' house. That was destroyed in 70ad. But Paul is definitely talking about a future temple of God. A temple graced by the presence of God. His house.
The theory of modern Christianity is that Jews, who utterly reject Jesus as their Messiah, and cling to a religion that insults the Son of God, build a temple, offer sacrifices that are a blasphemous insult to the entire plan of salvation, and in the inspired word of God is called the house of God? Good actually approves of this and allows His Spirit to abide there? That makes absolutely no sense whatever, particularly when scriptures clearly and definitively identifies the NT temple as God's church. Therefore, the idea that the antichrist sets up shop in a temple in Jerusalem is way off the mark, and Christians the world over are supporting a concept that is satanically deceptive. Which leaves us with but one other option. Antichrist sets up his throne, and proclaims himself as God in the church.
The abomination of desolation, as brought upon God's people in a localised literal sense at 70AD, will be repeated on a global scale in a spiritual sense before the second coming. First brought about by the idolatry of pagan Rome as they planted their idolatrous banners in their desecration of holy ground around Jerusalem, but in the future brought about by the idolatry of papal Rome in a global sense by their desecration of the spiritual temple of God, the church. If you don't think the popes think they are God on earth, then explain this...
A great white throne...4 living creatures...2 cherubim.
amigo de christo
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Take a good long look at that seat . LOOK at it and then know and understandIn the prophecy of Thessalonians regarding the coming of the man of sin, the antichrist, I would like to point something out that most people are missing. The text says in part...
“Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. ”
2 Thessalonians 2:4 KJV
During His ministry on earth, Jesus defended the temple against abuse and misuse with much zeal and concern. He called the temple His Father's house, therefore giving it a definite identity as the temple or house of God. However. The last time Jesus left the temple He said,
“Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. ”
Luke 13:35 KJV
Your house!! Not God's house any more. And that was the temple the Son of God made holy by His presence. No longer His Father's house or even His own, but now belonging to a bunch of hypocritical self righteous murderers, who had rejected God by rejecting His Son. Now, back to Thessalonians. Paul is talking about a future temple. A temple later than that which Jesus ministered in, because Paul defined it as the temple of God. Not the Jews' house. That was destroyed in 70ad. But Paul is definitely talking about a future temple of God. A temple graced by the presence of God. His house.
The theory of modern Christianity is that Jews, who utterly reject Jesus as their Messiah, and cling to a religion that insults the Son of God, build a temple, offer sacrifices that are a blasphemous insult to the entire plan of salvation, and in the inspired word of God is called the house of God? Good actually approves of this and allows His Spirit to abide there? That makes absolutely no sense whatever, particularly when scriptures clearly and definitively identifies the NT temple as God's church. Therefore, the idea that the antichrist sets up shop in a temple in Jerusalem is way off the mark, and Christians the world over are supporting a concept that is satanically deceptive. Which leaves us with but one other option. Antichrist sets up his throne, and proclaims himself as God in the church.
The abomination of desolation, as brought upon God's people in a localised literal sense at 70AD, will be repeated on a global scale in a spiritual sense before the second coming. First brought about by the idolatry of pagan Rome as they planted their idolatrous banners in their desecration of holy ground around Jerusalem, but in the future brought about by the idolatry of papal Rome in a global sense by their desecration of the spiritual temple of God, the church. If you don't think the popes think they are God on earth, then explain this...View attachment 72861
A great white throne...4 living creatures...2 cherubim.
that this covenant of anti christ interfaith finding common ground , cAME of that seat .
And it has DENIED before all the DIRE NEED TO EVEN HAVE to BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
as it sold to all false religoins and to christendom THE VERY LIE that we all serve the same GOD differently .
THEN i want YOU to go and YOU examine FOR YOU
exactly what number that title adds up too . DO NOT be suprised if it is SIX HUNDRED THREE SCORE and SIX
Even now are t here many anti christs and they do the will of a great and mighty harlot
who sits upon many waters , CLAOKED IN WOOL but sure can speak as a dragon .
And this people are running quickly to such a strong spiritual delusion , THAT DARN sure has ommited
JESUS THE CHRIST and is having all now to find common g round as one
under what all believe is love and of GOD and is the way to PEACE n safety .
PEACE n safety .
Now go to and behold what paul once wrote would come upon them WHEN they are chanting peace n safety .
OH the hour is late indeed .
amigo de christo
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also notice what is said to the prince o TRYUS .In the prophecy of Thessalonians regarding the coming of the man of sin, the antichrist, I would like to point something out that most people are missing. The text says in part...
“Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. ”
2 Thessalonians 2:4 KJV
During His ministry on earth, Jesus defended the temple against abuse and misuse with much zeal and concern. He called the temple His Father's house, therefore giving it a definite identity as the temple or house of God. However. The last time Jesus left the temple He said,
“Behold, your house is left unto you desolate: and verily I say unto you, Ye shall not see me, until the time come when ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. ”
Luke 13:35 KJV
Your house!! Not God's house any more. And that was the temple the Son of God made holy by His presence. No longer His Father's house or even His own, but now belonging to a bunch of hypocritical self righteous murderers, who had rejected God by rejecting His Son. Now, back to Thessalonians. Paul is talking about a future temple. A temple later than that which Jesus ministered in, because Paul defined it as the temple of God. Not the Jews' house. That was destroyed in 70ad. But Paul is definitely talking about a future temple of God. A temple graced by the presence of God. His house.
The theory of modern Christianity is that Jews, who utterly reject Jesus as their Messiah, and cling to a religion that insults the Son of God, build a temple, offer sacrifices that are a blasphemous insult to the entire plan of salvation, and in the inspired word of God is called the house of God? Good actually approves of this and allows His Spirit to abide there? That makes absolutely no sense whatever, particularly when scriptures clearly and definitively identifies the NT temple as God's church. Therefore, the idea that the antichrist sets up shop in a temple in Jerusalem is way off the mark, and Christians the world over are supporting a concept that is satanically deceptive. Which leaves us with but one other option. Antichrist sets up his throne, and proclaims himself as God in the church.
The abomination of desolation, as brought upon God's people in a localised literal sense at 70AD, will be repeated on a global scale in a spiritual sense before the second coming. First brought about by the idolatry of pagan Rome as they planted their idolatrous banners in their desecration of holy ground around Jerusalem, but in the future brought about by the idolatry of papal Rome in a global sense by their desecration of the spiritual temple of God, the church. If you don't think the popes think they are God on earth, then explain this...View attachment 72861
A great white throne...4 living creatures...2 cherubim.
YE sit in the seat of GOD shewing thyself ..........
Many have no idea my friend . many read not the bible for themselves to learn .
The great harlot has indeed arisen
and as she decieved the jews long ago , so too now she rules over much of even christendom .
That harlot has not been sleeping .
1. I am not a "verses as huge pictures" guy.
2. I am not a Leviticus guy. Leviticus is not our book of rules.
imagine a person dicating another person in they have to do this or they have to do that in this life.
Jesus never tells me directly to do anything, except the notion to believe on him.
If people hate the LORD GOD great.
If people love the LORD GOD great.
I rather people be honest in their hatred rather than conceal it.
Jesus never tells me directly to do anything, except the notion to believe on him.
If people hate the LORD GOD great.
If people love the LORD GOD great.
I rather people be honest in their hatred rather than conceal it.
I am not asking what I should do. We are discussing Christian doctrine. It is in this context that I posed the question: "Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord?"
You answer: everyone can do what they want. That is true. However, a decision a person makes can be understood within the framework of Christian doctrine as either "good" or "evil."
In other words, we are not talking about the subjective view of a single individual, but are seeking objective truth.
The prophet Jehu son of Hanani confronted Jehoshaphat, the king of Judah, with this question: "Should you help the wicked and love those who hate the Lord?"
What would you have answered in King Jehoshaphat's place?
Im not wanting to be entertained, nor have any desire to say anything else other than...
I can say this much there is not one other person whom has helped me in my life except Jesus himself.
The bible helps people renew their mind but they need to be careful, listening to people.
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When I say "you" its not you... its a generalizational "you."
I can say this much there is not one other person whom has helped me in my life except Jesus himself.
The bible helps people renew their mind but they need to be careful, listening to people.
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When I say "you" its not you... its a generalizational "you."
GRACE ambassador
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I am "not saying anything", just pointing out God's Command for our obedience:
"If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to
drink: For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and The LORD shall reward thee"
(Proverbs 25:21-22 AV)
+"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for It Is Written,
Vengeance is Mine; I Will repay, Saith the Lord. Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed
him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head."
(Romans 12:19-20 AV)
Of course, if you don't wish or need "rewards", then so be it, eh?
Amen.
Okay, I get it. You don't want to talk to me. I won't force you. Have a nice day.
amigo de christo
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So in levitcus God said man shall not lie with man .
So would you now say man can lie with man . SEE the point yet .
GOD is not going to change his mind about what is sin .
And while I DO NOT LOOK to the law to justify myself , HEAR THIS NEXT PART REAL CLEARLY ,
I DONT turn Christ into a minstir of sin . Love fullfills , it does not trangress .
SOMETHING i think , wait I KNOW , this generation clearly seems to miss .
GOD is not all of a sudden going to now give us license to do the very T HING
HE is against . and how i advise all to never heed men who allow such things to be done
using the name of grace , freedom or liberty , the NAME of JESUS to comitt such abominations .
The old me used to live in sin and I as many today , could even lip the name of JESUS
while doing so . But i was the spawn of satan who did nothing but cover my sins , justifying them
and using the NAME of A HOLY GOD and OF HIS CHRIST to do so . JUST LIKE a overwhemling majority
of even christendom does today . DO keep in mind i said I WAS the spawn of satan .
SO if i dont make excuses for the old me , I WONT be making excuses for the many in christendom
who are still as t he old me , the old man , USING the prescious name of JESUS to justify sins .
HOW DARE we do such a thing . How deadly for us if we do such a thing .
This is a reminder , dont get the hackles raised . Just a reminder .
and i know all about meats , drinks and days . BUT SIN , now that is STILL SIN .
amigo de christo
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Unto all who use and twist HIS WORDS
they have their reward . On the last day HIS WORDS will be their judge and much wailing will be heard
from those who did so . For though a man cry , OH HOLY LORD GOD , OH HOLY LORD JESUS
i love thee , and yet that man twists His words , That man loved at most another jesus , one presented by the dark one .
For though a man cry aloud and praise HIS HOLY NAME ten thousand times and a day
I TELL us all that a man cannot LOVE HIM and have hated His words . That be A DELUSION .
amigo de christo
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Rather odd . As JESUS corrected and did not leave one in error
as paul also who loved the peoples did the same .
WHEN are we going to learn that grace does not give license to make v oid the words of GOD
It actually writes those words upon our hearts and in our minds .
But you go and learn what that means .
amigo de christo
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Have you seen with your eyes
What this people in christendom is in love with and even calleth love and cliams be of GOD .
Go to and behold the realm of t he all inclusive lets have unity and find common ground interfaith klan
And ye shall see great and greater abominations , being called love and loving , being claimed as grace
and of GOD . And then shall ye weep as i have long wept because the god they THINK IS GOD
and the love they THINK is his LOVE
and the grace they THINK is HIS grace . WELL lets jus say SATAN KNOWS HOW TO allure and to decieve the carnal man .
amigo de christo
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Too many have tasted the wrong rainbow . very diverse , very strange indeed .
As korans and budda statues are now kissed
as abominatoins of men and of women now embraced .
EVIL called GOOD and GOOD called evil
as the very words of GOD are cast behind them in favor of the god of allowance of sins . OH yeah we got problems all right
But as usual the only doctrine they preach at me is , HEY HATER dont judge .
As korans and budda statues are now kissed
as abominatoins of men and of women now embraced .
EVIL called GOOD and GOOD called evil
as the very words of GOD are cast behind them in favor of the god of allowance of sins . OH yeah we got problems all right
But as usual the only doctrine they preach at me is , HEY HATER dont judge .
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