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NotTheRock

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Vision, Plan, Strategy, Division, FEW THEM IN Control… FEW THEY useful To Control.

It is the tenet / principle and philosophical promotion and indoctrination of:
The Terms;
kings and subjects
masters and slaves
dictators and peasants
royal and keeping useful serfs
royal and eliminating UN-useful serfs.
* Communism, Marxism, Liberalism, Democracies, Anti-God Satanism, playbooks.

Without necessarily using “the Terms”, “The “serfs” (ie. The “have nots” for multiple reasons), ARE ear tickled with the grandeur of endlessly to be Provided All their Needs / Wants FREE… requiring NO EFFORT, work, labor… on their Part”.

For Decades, the Ear-tickling, has occurred IN:
* Politicking
* News outlets
* TV “programming” “geared to adults and children”
* Promoted and Encouraged “Day Long” separations of husbands and wives.
* Promoted and Encouraged “Day Long” separations of Parents and their children.
* Music
* Books
* Movies
* Public “so called Free programing” Schools.
* Universities “with multiple opportunities to attend, without “paying!”
* Big Pharma “with so called Approved” AND Encouraged, slow negative body altering synthetic compound Drugs”
* Street drugs Openly By “Word” Discouraged… while Enabling Street Drugs to flow effortlessly to every corner, Free money supply to buy drugs, Free supply of needles to take drugs and Free land, buildings, to squat, and live in squaller and filth (but no issue, they too drugged to care)


The four letter F-Word “FREE” IS the Decades Long …“Strategy”, “enticement”, “programming” that Operates “Cleverly”…
To KEEP the Ignorant IGNORANT…
To KEEP the Slothful Burdens, SLOTHFUL BURDENS…

** To KEEP the (people at large /FREE-DOM lovers) AND the (people at large /FREEBIE lovers)…BUSY, Busy, Quarreling, debating, fighting…between themselves…
* WHILE… the “Masters sit in luxury, behind walls, with armed guards, secretly dreaming up more ways to Control (the useful) and Eliminate (the Slothful Burdens).


Why? Prophecy being fulfilled and unfolding, being revealed exponentially.

God isn’t the “only” Spirit with Power “preparing FOR” the End of days Of Mortal manKind”, and His new Earth and it’s new creatures / inhabitants.

Satan is another spirit with power “preparing” for his “Stint” of controlling the Earth and its inhabitants.

Glory to God,
Taken

Is it your belief that dead Jews get burned alive forever in a forever "Hell"?
 

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I've seen some self-proclaimed Christians who are extremely vitriolic toward Jews.

And why shouldn't they be vitriolic toward Jews? After all, their church leaders have convinced them that Jews are trash destined to be tortured forever in Jesus's forever torture chamber and rightly so! If Jesus hates Jews, why shouldn't his Christian followers?

Yes, some horrific doctrines are believed and followed by mainstream Christians. They too are the victims of spiritual deception.
 
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What bothers me is the vitriol of some "Christians" towards them.

I don't understand that either.

In my twenties, I did some door to door evangelism to Jews with a pastor who had a ministry to the Jews.

3I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
Genesis 12:3

Even if some Christians don't believe the above verse, they should certainly believe the Lord's words about loving our neighbor as ourself or loving our enemies.
 

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I don't understand that either.

In my twenties, I did some door to door evangelism to Jews with a pastor who had a ministry to the Jews.

3I will bless those who bless you,
And I will curse him who curses you;
And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed.”
Genesis 12:3

Even if some Christians don't believe the above verse, they should certainly believe the Lord's words about loving our neighbor as ourself or loving our enemies.

I wholeheartedly agree with you but you should acknowledge that mainstream Christianity teaches that Jews rejected Christ and are essentially trash destined for eternal damnation.
 
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Being trodden underfoot as worthless is shown in here

Matt 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.
 

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I wholeheartedly agree with you but you should acknowledge that mainstream Christianity teaches that Jews rejected Christ and are essentially trash destined for eternal damnation.

Through the Jews rejection, we gentiles were grafted in.

Also, many Jews are coming to know the Lord as their Messiah Savior. In the 1970s, it was rare...but now there are many coming to Jesus.

This is interesting....a beautiful Messianic church in Jerusalem. The Messianic pastor is showing the church to a Jewish vlogger. Notice the beautiful symbolism of the Olive tree stained glass window....the cross coming out of one side of the Olive tree branch and the Menorah coming out of the other side.

 

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Being trodden underfoot as worthless is shown in here

Matt 5:13 Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men.

How many Christians here believe that Jesus will burn Jews alive forever in Hell?
 

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Through the Jews rejection, we gentiles were grafted in.

Also, many Jews are coming to know the Lord as their Messiah Savior. In the 1970s, it was rare...but now there are many coming to Jesus.

What do you believe happens to Jews at death?
 
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Along with a bunch of Jews, according to most Christians.

It tells us here

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters,
and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death
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Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
 
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From the OP:
Am I wrong to think it is not a very Christian thing to lift up Muslims and bash Jews.
Can anyone please explain to me why this is?
No, you're not "wrong," because that's what the majority has been programmed to believe. The takeaway is that those who call themselves Jews are not; they are fake and they are about to be exposed and removed.
 
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It tells us here

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters,
and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death
.

Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
To DENY the CHRIST of GOD is to DENY GOD ALL MIGHTY HIMSELF .
Who so ever BELEIVES NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON
calls GOD himself a liar . And as those words you brought us sure do remind us , ALL LIARS shall have their part
in the lake of fire.
whether one is born a jew or a gentile , ALL NEED JESUS THE CHRIST and all who do DENY HIM
will surely be DENIED .
As i am sure you agree my friend .
 
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It tells us here

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters,
and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death
.

Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
that is right my friend , POINT TO CHRIST JESUS to the last breath . HE THE ONLY N AME we offer up
to jew or gentile . HE and HE ALONE saves . Now to the trenches
for truly truly or verily verily i say to us all , we got wolves preaching another gopsel in these last hours
and as you know , IT IS NO GOSPEL at all they bring to this people .
As for us , the sheep , WE OFFER UP JESUS THE CHRIST with the DIRE reminder of having to BELEIVE ON HIM .
 
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To DENY the CHRIST of GOD is to DENY GOD ALL MIGHTY HIMSELF .
Who so ever BELEIVES NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON
calls GOD himself a liar . And as those words you brought us sure do remind us , ALL LIARS shall have their part
in the lake of fire.
whether one is born a jew or a gentile , ALL NEED JESUS THE CHRIST and all who do DENY HIM
will surely be DENIED .
As i am sure you agree my friend .


Says sorcerers too here

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters,
and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death
.

Here is Jewish sorcerer

Acts 13:6
[6] And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Bar-jesus:
[7] Which was with the deputy of the country, Sergius Paulus, a prudent man; who called for Barnabas and Saul, and desired to hear the word of God.
[8] But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.
[9] Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
[10] And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

Paul called him a child of the devil
(Maybe Paul was just a self hating Jew,
and an anti semite?) :p
 
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Says sorcerers too here

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters,
and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death
.

Here is Jewish sorcerer

Acts 13:6
[6] And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Bar-jesus:
[7] Which was with the deputy of the country, Sergius Paulus, a prudent man; who called for Barnabas and Saul, and desired to hear the word of God.
[8] But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.
[9] Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
[10] And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

Paul called him a child of the devil
(Maybe Paul was just a self hating Jew,
and an anti semite?) :p
trying to lead the deputy away from , what was that . THE FAITH .
and now ya know why i warn so much against intefaith ecumenical harlotry .
THEY Do nothing but lead this people away f rom the FAITH and into another gospel that is no gospel at all .
Yeah , paul did call HIM a devil .
Todays church would have called paul a hater and a monster and yeah probably anti semitc too .
BUT THEN what WOULD THEY HAVE CALLED JESUS who warned non stop the jews
and even said to the jews that did not Beleive ON HIM ye are of your father the devil .
THIS GENERATION would crucify Christ and the apostels ,
and soon enough they will us too my friend . THEY have no i dea they have been following
a lamb KILLER who does nothing but decieve them and lead them
in to the final solution which he will convince them to RID the earth of the true saints .
 
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This here in full where the darkness fell upon the sorcerer

Acts.13

[6] And when they had gone through the isle unto Paphos, they found a certain sorcerer, a false prophet, a Jew, whose name was Bar-jesus:
[7] Which was with the deputy of the country, Sergius Paulus, a prudent man; who called for Barnabas and Saul, and desired to hear
the word of God.
[8] But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.
[9] Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
[10] And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease
to pervert the right ways of the Lord
?
[11] And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand.
[12] Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.

Reminds me a little of here similarly

Mal 3:5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers,
and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn
aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, saith the LORD of hosts
.

Just as this fell upon the sorcerer

And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness

Reminds me a little of here

John 12:35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you:
for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.

Second part of the verse

Acts 13: 11 b And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand.

Since being full of darkness is shown similarly here

Rev 16:10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness;
and they gnawed their tongues for pain

Not the same but theres a little bit of a pattern of darkness coming upon them
 

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It tells us here

Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters,
and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death
.

Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

And that's why many Christians view Jews as worthless trash who are unworthy to breathe our air and deserving of vitriolic hatred and forever torture.
 
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trying to lead the deputy away from , what was that . THE FAITH .
and now ya know why i warn so much against intefaith ecumenical harlotry .
THEY Do nothing but lead this people away f rom the FAITH and into another gospel that is no gospel at all .
Yeah , paul did call HIM a devil .
Todays church would have called paul a hater and a monster and yeah probably anti semitc too .
BUT THEN what WOULD THEY HAVE CALLED JESUS who warned non stop the jews
and even said to the jews that did not Beleive ON HIM ye are of your father the devil .
THIS GENERATION would crucify Christ and the apostels ,
and soon enough they will us too my friend . THEY have no i dea they have been following
a lamb KILLER who does nothing but decieve them and lead them
in to the final solution which he will convince them to RID the earth of the true saints .

I do believe Jesus and Paul would be called anti-semites.
I think its almost a far worse thing than being called anti-christ.
 
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