How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

[Grailhunter]

It was believed that jesus was God at the time of the Apostles and immediately thereafter...
I've posted writings of the early church fathers dating back to late 1st century and early 2nd century.

Nope
Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. 1st Corinthians 8:6

For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 1st Timothy 2:5

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. 2nd Corinthians 13:14

And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. John 17:3

Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19 count the ands

And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. John 5:20

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 1st Peter 1:3

And every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:11

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Ephesians 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 2nd Corinthians 1:3-4

How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him. Acts 10:38

 

[ProverbsInPink]

That's very interesting.
Do you have more insights like that to share?

I remember seeing this years ago.

There's another myth that claims Jesus underwent training in Japan for 12 years before going out to spread the Gospel.
A tourist destination in Japan is known as, Kirisuto no Haka. It's said to be the site of the tomb of Jesus.
That's because he is said to have died at the age of 106. Because his brother,Isukiri, is the one who was actually crucified.

Supposedly,the villagers don't take this seriously. But it does bring in tourist monies.

 

[GodsGrace]

Eve is the mother of all, it is Bible.

then God is grandfather of all, it is logic.

if I call God the father, then Adam is the God......it is logic, so I can't and don't want to call God father......

I am sober, not Religious fanatic.

It says CHRISTIAN under your avatar.
Why don't you believe what Christians believe?
Are Christians allowed to believe whatever they want to
or are they supposed to believe what the Apostles taught?

 

[St. SteVen]

I was struck by your avatar image.
Children resting on a grassy hill admiring a cross.
That could only make sense to someone raised in the church. ???



I know, I know. My avatar doesn't make sense either. - LOL

 

[GodsGrace]

I was struck by your avatar image.
Children resting on a grassy hill admiring a cross.
That could only make sense to someone raised in the church. ???


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I know, I know. My avatar doesn't make sense either. - LOL

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I was not raised in the church.

I taught kids our faith...
and loved introducing Jesus to them.


Yours??

 

[GodsGrace]

Eve is the mother of all, it is Bible.

then God is grandfather of all, it is logic.

if I call God the father, then Adam is the God......it is logic, so I can't and don't want to call God father......

I am sober, not Religious fanatic.

You could use human logic if you want to.

I prefer to use the language of the bible.
The bible states that God is our Father.


Isaiah 64:8
8 But now, O LORD, You are our Father,

Matthew 7:11
11 "If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give what is good to those who ask Him!

Romans 8:15b
...but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, "Abba! Father!"

1 John 3:1
1See what kind of love the Father has given to us,,,


There are many more.

 

[St. SteVen]

I was not raised in the church.

I taught kids our faith...
and loved introducing Jesus to them.


Yours??

I was raised in the church.
I consider myself to be a recovering evangelical. (still in the church though)

 

[GodsGrace]

I was raised in the church.
I consider myself to be a recovering evangelical. (still in the church though)

Recovering?
So what are you recovering TO?

I might have been evangelical at some point...
not sure what it means anymore.

I used to THINK I knew, but am no longer certain.

If you care to explain it in 25 words or less...

 

[GodsGrace]

I was raised in the church.
I consider myself to be a recovering evangelical. (still in the church though)

And you didn't explain your avatar.
All those LIGHTS, I think?

 

[St. SteVen]

And you didn't explain your avatar.
All those LIGHTS, I think?

Yes, lights in the distance, out of focus.
Gives a sense of fluid motion. (floating lights)
I like the energy of it. (artsy) Rather ambiguous.
Like my topics. - LOL

 

[HealthyShape]

You really can think beyond the icons.

When you can,you shall know the truth. That you were wrong,before.

Empty words.

 

[HealthyShape]

Stop being blinded by paganism.

Empty words. You simply do not understand Trinity, you are always misrepresenting it in your attacks.

 

[Jack]

Trinity:

Gen 1:26 God said, "Let US make man in OUR image according to OUR likeness."

Father, Son and Holy Spirit!

 

[HealthyShape]

The three in one concept did not exist until the Catholic Church made it a doctrine in the 4th century. And killed anyone that did not agree with it. The three in one formula for the Trinity was produced to stop arguments about the three Gods. Now if you pretend that you cannot count I will not respond to you.

I hope you can count to one.

"You believe that God is one; you do well"
James 2:19

Bible states that the Father is God, that the Son is God and that the Holy Spirit is God. And it also states that there is only one God. Not three Gods, but one God.

 

[Jack]

From the CYB Statement of Faith: "We believe that God is the Creator, Sustainer, and Ruler of the universe. We attest that God has eternally existed in three persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. These three are co-equal and are one God. (Genesis 1:1, 26-27, Genesis 3:22, Deuteronomy 6:4, Psalm 90:2, John 1:1, John 10:30, Romans 3:30, II Corinthians 13:14, I Peter 1:2)"

 

[Grailhunter]

I hope you can count to one.

"You believe that God is one; you do well"
James 2:19

Bible states that the Father is God, that the Son is God and that the Holy Spirit is God. And it also states that there is only one God. Not three Gods, but one God.

LOL

 

[HealthyShape]

Nope
Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist. 1st Corinthians 8:6

For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 1st Timothy 2:5

The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. 2nd Corinthians 13:14

And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. John 17:3

Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19 count the ands

And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. John 5:20

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 1st Peter 1:3

And every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Philippians 2:11

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in Christ with every spiritual blessing in the heavenly places, Ephesians 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies and God of all comfort, who comforts us in all our affliction, so that we may be able to comfort those who are in any affliction, with the comfort with which we ourselves are comforted by God. 2nd Corinthians 1:3-4

How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power. He went about doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil, for God was with him. Acts 10:38

When the Father and the Son are mentioned in one sentence, Paul uses "God" for the Father. But in other places, when He talks about just Jesus, he calls Him God, too.

For example:

"Theirs are the patriarchs, and from them proceeds the human descent of Christ, who is God over all, forever worthy of praise! Amen."
R 9:5

 

[Jack]

Now you are just getting silly. I know you can count. God the Father and God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are in the New Testament. The three in one concept did not exist until the Catholic Church made it a doctrine in the 4th century. And killed anyone that did not agree with it. The three in one formula for the Trinity was produced to stop arguments about the three Gods. Now if you pretend that you cannot count I will not respond to you.

Oh that's right, you said you're a "Theologian" and there are "3 Gods". ONLY Satan could convince someone there are "3 Gods"!

 

[ProverbsInPink]

Empty words. You simply do not understand Trinity, you are always misrepresenting it in your attacks.

I don't attack. Jesus never taught about a Trinity.
Everything you've listed to defend the Trinity is actually reiterating monotheism. You can't see it.

 

[HealthyShape]

I don't attack. Jesus never taught about a Trinity.
Everything you've listed to defend the Trinity is actually reiterating monotheism. You can't see it.

Again, Trinity is monotheism. You do not understand what Trinity means. It means three persons, not three Gods. You have been corrected about this multiple times and you still do not get it.