The Mark of the Beast is here!

[Earburner]

I refer all back to my post #293:
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Q1. Since Judas Iscarriot was described by Jesus to be "the son of perdition" [destruction] KJV John 17:12, can you name or point out another (or others) that would be classified as being "the son of perdition" [aka. that man of sin]?

The answer is yes. It is found in 2 Thes. 2:3
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day [2 Thes. 1:7-10] shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Hmmm....did you happen to notice that Judas is NOT the only "son of perdition"???
I would that you should pay attention to that verse, and take notice of what the characteristic of "the son of perdition" is, by the words: "there shall COME a falling away first", before that day of Jesus' Glorious return.
Do you see that to be in the plural?
I surely do hope so!!

Q2. What characteristic did Judas Iscarriot ultimately display in his relationship to Jesus?
A. he fell away from faith in Jesus and subjected Him to persecution and death.

Q3. What is the characteristic of "the son of perdition"?
A. "the son of perdition" falls away from faith in Jesus. 2 Thes. 2:3.

Personally, do you know of any that have fallen away from having faith in Jesus??
If so, then they would be classified as being "that man of sin, the son of perdition".
Since the "son of perdition" is two or more, being plural, that makes "that man of sin" to be plural also!

Q4. In 2 Thes. 1:7-10, "when" Jesus is revealed from heaven in flaming fire, WITH His mighty angels, who are they that Jesus shall take vengeance upon?
A. All those WHO know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Q5. What else do we know about people who do not know God and that do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ?
A. They are "the natural man".
1 Cor. 2[14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Do you see that to be in the plural also?
I surely do hope so!!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

You didn't know that the words: "the natural man" is in the plural, as is "that man of sin", being equal to those who are "the son of perdition"?
How then do you believe that there is only one "THE" Antichrist, when scripture says there are many who deny that Jesus has come in the flesh?

All people not following the Lord Jesus are in fact anti-christs

And yet God's Word tells us there is coming a person that is THE anti-christ, THE son of perdition

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition

 

[Earburner]

All people not following the Lord Jesus are in fact anti-christs

And yet God's Word tells us there is coming a person that is THE anti-christ, THE son of perdition

2 Thessalonians 2:1-3
Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him,
That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition

Because people who are in "the natural man" do not know in their heart that Jesus was eternal before he was made to be flesh, yes all unsaved people are antichrists.

One more time, of how Judas was called the first son of perdition [destruction] of many who would follow-
Though the following appears to be a play on words, in reality it is speaking the absolute truth:
Judas Iscarriot [an antichrist] [had]
1. a falling away [from faith in Christ] first,
2. and that man of sin ["the natural man" should] be revealed [thus becoming] the son of perdition [with many others to follow].

As you do know, in the KJV Bible, one will never find the words "THE Antichrist" written together, that it should cause people to believe that there is only one/singular antichrist.
Judas was not the only "man of sin, the son of perdition".
Therefore, all of it is to be understood in the plural, that just before Jesus suddenly appears from heaven in flaming fire, there will come a falling away first [of many from having faith in Him].

It is my firm understanding that because of a "strong delusion to believe a lie", the need/requirement of "the mark of the beast" will persuade many people to deny their faith in Jesus, as did Judas for 30 pieces of silver, aka money.

 

[Earburner]

Cont. from #303:
Since all of the unsaved are only of "the natural man", it is safe to say that in the plural, they each are "that man of sin". Since that is so, then it is also safe to conclude that they each are also "the son of perdition".

So then....Who is antichrist?
As you will see in the KJV, by God's Holy Spirit, there is NO confusion about the truth of who antichrist is!!
However, the answer that is fabricated through church-ianity, there is much confusion!!
1John.2
[18] Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that [spirit of]** antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

[22] Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the [Eternal] Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1John.4
[3] And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and **this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that IT should come; and even now already is IT in the world.
2John.1
[7] For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and AN antichrist [one of many].

Note: did you know that EVERY living person, at the present moment, has the opportunity to become the permanent dwelling place for God?

 

[Earburner]

Cont'd from #304
According to 2 Thes. 2:4 we have the answer as to WHERE "that spirit of antichrist" wants to take up residence.
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

Now, for all those who choose to disagree with what the KJV is actually revealing by the Holy Spirit's guidance, the question to be asked is this:
In WHAT temple of God does "that spirit of antichrist" seek dwell in?

The answer is: our mortal bodies.

 

[David in NJ]

Cont'd from #304
According to 2 Thes. 2:4 we have the answer as to WHERE that spirit of antichrist wants to take up residence.
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

So, the question to all is: in WHAT temple of God does "that spirit of antichrist" seek to dwell in?

Just as CHRIST is the Head of His Body = which are the Saints

so also is Satan the head of his "Man of Sin" which are the peoples of the world whom he has taken captive thru the spirit of antichrist

The Word became flesh and dwelt among us = Immanuel, God with us

Satan will indwell a man just as he did in Judas

 

[Earburner]

Just as CHRIST is the Head of His Body = which are the Saints

so also is Satan the head of his "Man of Sin" which are the peoples of the world whom he has taken captive thru the spirit of antichrist

The Word became flesh and dwelt among us = Immanuel, God with us

Satan will indwell a man just as he did in Judas

Hi Brother Dave, it's amazing that many are not discerning the simple understanding of what the Holy Spirit is saying through the words of the KJV.

In every generation, Satan, upon his free will, has been taking up residence in many who do not have the Spirit of Christ within them.
Even so in the reverse, when people come to repentance and believe in Jesus, Satan and his evil horde must immediately leave a person when the Holy Spirit of God comes to make His permanent abode within that person.

 

[David in NJ]

Hi Brother Dave, it's amazing that many are not discerning the simple understanding of what the Holy Spirit is saying through the words of the KJV.

In every generation, Satan, upon his free will, has been taking up residence in many who do not have the Spirit of Christ within them.
Even so in the reverse, when people come to repentance and believe in Jesus, Satan and his evil horde must immediately leave a person when the Holy Spirit of God comes to make His permanent abode within that person.

It took a year for the doctors to realize what we have been telling them = Daniel has a specific type of tic borne disease that is not diagnosed as Lymes.

The tic borne disease that Daniel has is far worse as it attacks the heart and kidneys and liver.

PROBLEM = they do not want to treat him

Please continue to lift UP Daniel and we now have to go out-of-state to find a doctor who will give Daniel IV antibiotics SPECIFIC to that Bacterium which is destroying his health

 

[Earburner]

It took a year for the doctors to realize what we have been telling them = Daniel has a specific type of tic borne disease that is not diagnosed as Lymes.

The tic borne disease that Daniel has is far worse as it attacks the heart and kidneys and liver.

PROBLEM = they do not want to treat him

Please continue to lift UP Daniel and we now have to go out-of-state to find a doctor who will give Daniel IV antibiotics SPECIFIC to that Bacterium which is destroying his health

Yes Dave, I will be keeping your son Daniel in prayer!!
How did you know that his disease is a tic born illness? Did you have the tic for them to examine it, or are there others who have identical symptoms as your son?

 

[David in NJ]

Yes Dave, I will be keeping your son Daniel in prayer!!
How did you know that his disease is a tic born illness? Did you have the tic for them to examine it, or are there others who have identical symptoms as your son?

i knew from my own experience with Lymes and from study.

There are many different variants of tic borne diseases = all of which wreck havic with our health.

We were in Oregon last year, which is where we suspect Dan was bitten.

The variant of 'Lymes' that Dan has is from/found in the Western states.

This varaint is also now being detected in the East and it attacks the heart, liver and kidneys.

 

[Earburner]

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i knew from my own experience with Lymes and from study.

There are many different variants of tic borne diseases = all of which wreck havic with our health.

We were in Oregon last year, which is where we suspect Dan was bitten.

The variant of 'Lymes' that Dan has is from/found in the Western states.

This varaint is also now being detected in the East and it attacks the heart, liver and kidneys.

l knew about Lymes disease. There are number of people that I know who suffer from it. I didn't know that there were different variants like that of a virus.

That is a horrible situation, if one does not know the type of tic that one is infected by. But, to have knowledge of the general area of where it lives, being the area that your son visited in, it might be the only logical starting place for gaining a possible immunization, that may already be in process for those who are native to the area.

Through faith in the Lord Jesus, my prayer is that His healing hands be upon your son Daniel, through whatever capacity it takes for him to be healed, all for the Glory of God.

May He continue to Bless and Guide you in your search through faith.
Your brother in Christ,
Earburner

 

[Gottservant]

the object remains to escape all these things and to stand before the Son of Man (Luke 21:36)

You won't escape the one world currency, without charitable tithing; you won't escape the rule of the beast or stand despite it, unless you keep in mind that he is just a man and in need of help; you won't stand also, if you take the mark - that's the line in the sand that you just can't cross.

 

[David in NJ]

the object remains to escape all these things and to stand before the Son of Man (Luke 21:36)

You won't escape the one world currency, without charitable tithing; you won't escape the rule of the beast or stand despite it, unless you keep in mind that he is just a man and in need of help; you won't stand also, if you take the mark - that's the line in the sand that you just can't cross.

The Way of escape is thru Overcoming by the Blood of Christ and the Holy Spirit

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

You won't escape the one world currency, without charitable tithing

Charitable giving - fix it for ya.

The New Testament does not teach tithing.

 

[One 2 question]

the object remains to escape all these things and to stand before the Son of Man (Luke 21:36)

You won't escape the one world currency, without charitable tithing; you won't escape the rule of the beast or stand despite it, unless you keep in mind that he is just a man and in need of help; you won't stand also, if you take the mark - that's the line in the sand that you just can't cross.

I guess those wanting to tithe can do so with their food, clothes, time, skills if they end up not receiving that mark. Many do that anyway, not with money.

Should one be investing and using crypto and other digital currency if it's going to be the means the beast uses to control people in the future?

 

[One 2 question]

The Way of escape is thru Overcoming by the Blood of Christ and the Holy Spirit

What about on a practical level like using, investing in and therefore advancing AI.

 

[David in NJ]

What about on a practical level like using, investing in and therefore advancing AI.

The Mark of the Beast is the "practical level" can never return AI investing.

 

[David in NJ]

What about on a practical level like using, investing in and therefore advancing AI.

OK, you mean digital currency investing - correct?

 

[One 2 question]

OK, you mean digital currency investing - correct?

Yes. Just a thought. I have but have questioned it recently.

 

[David in NJ]

Yes. Just a thought. I have but have questioned it recently.

Right now, digital currency is not the Mark of the Beast.

Soon it will merge and become One with our bodies = to those who take the Mark = DO NOT take the Mark WHEN it comes

Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb.