Is it possible to lose salvation?

[Big Boy Johnson]

Who are you saying is excluded from the world?

Calvinists don't get it. They are reprobate so you may as well move on.

 

[BreadOfLife]

And you barely know each.

That’s why I consult the knowledge of Greek and Hebrew linguistic scholars., who know infinitely more than YOU . . .

Where were the brothers to help poor Mary who witnesses her son die? It is you who needs the proof.

Answer: She didn’t have any other children. Jesus was an ONLY child.

If she had other sons – THEY would have taken her into their care after Jesus died – and NOT the Apostle John.

Don't slander. I am still tired of Catholics who speak lies about medical virginity.

Slander?? Against WHO?

I haven’t seen one single shred of evidence of YOUR faithfulness.

I suppose the great schism never happened.

Again – that’s NOT who you were talking about.
You stuck your foot in your mouth by numbering the “sects of Catholicism”.

Jesus was talking about water in the barrens, translated poorly as desert. The man is also called the water of life in English translation.

In John 3:5 – Jesus was specifically talking about the spiritual rebirth of Baptism, which is carried out with water (H2O).

It’s amazing how anti-Catholic pervert this verse so they don’t have to agree with the truths of Christ’s Church . . .

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

i know i was in carm forum full of them.. i was called all kinds of names.

It's a badge of honor when the false teachers deem you to be such a threat they they have to resort to calling you names

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Virgins can't masturbate.

Ya'll got Marry doing what now???

 

[MonoBiblical]

That’s why I consult the knowledge of Greek and Hebrew linguistic scholars., who know infinitely more than YOU . . .

Answer: She didn’t have any other children. Jesus was an ONLY child.

He was also Joseph's only child. Did he have trouble with the nonexistent first wife?

If she had other sons – THEY would have taken her into their care after Jesus died – and NOT the Apostle John.

Slander?? Against WHO?

I haven’t seen one single shred of evidence of YOUR faithfulness.

It is amazing to me that you thyself to be a good judge of character.

Again – that’s NOT who you were talking about.
You stuck your foot in your mouth by numbering the “sects of Catholicism”.

In John 3:5 – Jesus was specifically talking about the spiritual rebirth of Baptism, which is carried out with water (H2O).

It’s amazing how anti-Catholic pervert this verse so they don’t have to agree with the truths of Christ’s Church . . .

You still don't understand the uterine brother-ship under Eve is how Jesus expanded the definition of adelphos. This is nonstandard Greek use.

 

[MonoBiblical]

Ya'll got Marry doing what now??? View attachment 73972

We don't know if she ever did. It isn't worth speculating on.

 

[MonoBiblical]

It’s amazing how anti-Catholic pervert this verse so they don’t have to agree with the truths of Christ’s Church . . .

Yes, thou doesn't understand Passover in the "desert".

 

[Ronald Nolette]

I need to make a correction here concerning a dialogue with rome Sweet Rome, in debating on Mary's perpetua virginity, I said that if Mary meant to stay a virgin she would have and God would have inspired her to say in the Perfect tense and subjunctive mood. that was incorrect. It would have been the perfect tense, active voice and participle mood. It would in a long english sentence say: "how can this be since I have not had sex with a man, am not having sex with a man, nor will I be having sex with a man." That would make her perpetually virgin, but she did not say that!

She said it in the Present, Active INdicative. Which in a long English phrase(paraphrase) would say: "how can this be seeing as I have not had any sex with a man".

 

[Ronald Nolette]

The difference is that Baptists – and ALL non-Catholic sects were invented by MEN during and after the 16th century.

The Catholic church goes back to Jesus and the Apostles . . .

No the "c"catholic church goes back to the Apostles. The "C" Catholic church goes back to constantine.

And yo0ur problem is that you look at teh church as an organization, whilw we look at it as an organism. Jesus recoognizes no denominations in heaven. Only if His blood was applied to ones sin debt or not.

And YOUR mistake is going to AI for your theology.

The Catholic Church isn’t broken up into multiple pieces

Well if romanists can go to AI, it surely must be OK for non-Romanists to as well!

Again – YOUR problem is that you think like a 21st century English-speaking person who doesn’t understand the full implications of Greek and Hebrew from a culture thousands of years ago . . .

And once again your opinions of what I know are so far wrong as to be laughable.

I have read church history," Life and time of Jesus the Messiah" by Alfred Eddersheim,." Life of Jesus the Messiah from a Hebrew Perspective", 4 vol. by Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum.

"Manners and Customs of the bible" by James Freeman

"The First Three Christian Centuries: A History Of The Church Of Christ, With A Special View To The Delineation Of Christian Faith And Life From A.d. 1" by Isley Burns and several of the 30 volumes of the "work of the ante-Nicene Fathers.

So I do have more than just a cursory view of the culture of jesus day.

So what is your training and learning in the manners, customs and culture of Jesus day??????

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Nonsense.

Some Jewish sects, like those of the Kabbalah believe in reincarnation – multiple “rebirths” is not a tenet of Judaism. Nicodemus was a faithful Jew who was puzzled at the very idea of “rebirth”.

Wow ytour complete lack of Jewish culture is hugely showing!

What are the 6 ways to be 'Born Again' in Judaism?

A. The initial part of the interview is found in John 3:1–12: Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: the same came unto him by night, and said to him, Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that you do, except God...

ariel.org.au

 

[Ronald Nolette]

And I already educated you about WHY your theory doesn’t work/

If by “Water”, Jesus was simply talking about natural birth – then aborted children, Cesaerean births and stillborn babies are ALL destined for Hell because they didn’t have a natural childbirth.

Jesus was talking sabout the spiritual rebirth of Baptism . . .

No, as you tried to falsely educate me.

What are the 6 ways to be 'Born Again' in Judaism?

A. The initial part of the interview is found in John 3:1–12: Now there was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: the same came unto him by night, and said to him, Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher come from God; for no one can do these signs that you do, except God...

ariel.org.au

In this article written by a Messianic Jew who had studied to be a chief rebbe, He also explains the Jewish concept of being born of water as natural birth. I trust him far more than you. He has more knowledge of jewish culture in his navel, than you have in your whole body!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Exekiel’s prophecy perfectly describes what Baptism DOES to the person – the forgiveness of sins and the renewal of the Spirit. It’s Ir mirrors the way Peter describes the effects of Baptism in Acts 2:38-39.

No it doesn't! for baptism in the OT was not any part of the normal life of a Jew. their were the ceremonial baptisms (or ablutions) but they were for ritual and not spiritual discipleship. Learn Jewish culture!

You don’t care because it proves you WRONG . . .

Just like ANY other historical record – it shows a snapshot of the time. The Didache shows us how the Early Church worshipped and practiced their faith in the first century.

For some parts of the church. You seem to forget that until teh diaspora took place, there was a massive sharp division between the rites of Jewish Christian worship and Gentile worship.

WRONG.

Christ gave His Church the Authority to speak on HIS behalf (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15).

Yes any ekklesia (called out individuals) can speak on Jesus behalf. But mankind cannot kick one out of heaven as Popes have pretended to do.

And I’ve already PROVEN otherwise . . .

The Didache - Chapter 7. Concerning Baptism
And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, in living water. But if you have not living water, baptize into other water; and if you can not in cold, in warm. But if you have not either, pour out water thrice upon the head into the name of Father and Son and Holy Spirit.

And remember that is a man made add on. Just because it is old, doesn't make it biblical. This is changing how Joh the Baptist, Jesus, Philip,Paul and the Apostles baptized by immersion!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

We don't know if she ever did. It isn't worth speculating on.

God's Word teaches she was a honorable and righteous woman, so no she was not playing with herself.

But we know after Jesus was born her and Joseph had sex numerous times and she numerous kids.

But this was done within the confines of a marriage that was acceptable before the Lord which is the only condition in which sexual activity is not sinful behavior.

 

[Jesussaves150]

If salvation can't be lost why is there a judgement for the faithful - there should be no judgement at all of the faithful if salvation is never lost.There are many evil people who believe and count on the free ride without any remorse for what they have done or intend to do or are doing.The parable of the goat and the sheep shows judgement.Your either a goat or a sheep and the goats are faithful in the parable yet lose their salvation.Same with the parable of the talents salvation is lost.

 

[amigo de christo]

The schism happened because the players, decided to create new Christian denominations. The trend caught on and now we have 49,000 different Christian denominations.

The problem with denominations, is they all departed from the Church which the Lord Jesus established and continues to build to this very day. The One true Church is the Body of Christ, His Body is not divided into 49,000 bitterly opposed denominations. No He only has One Body.

OH JESUS has TRUE CHURCH and it is the BODY of CHRIST . Which HE sure did establish .
AND It darn sure dont sit under ecumenical anti christ interfaith either , nor grabs ahold and loves a lie .
Many are in love with a lie my friend . That the sheep DO NOT DO .
Oh there is one church all right
its scattered all over the world , largely already being cast out of mainstream sold out denominations
who do the work of a harlot .
WHEN churches cast out the words of GOD in favor of getting along and having unity , THAT WAS THEIR DOWNFALL .
Time to bible up . You would be so s hocked
to see how easy things could have been cleared up , IF ONLY folks would have put their noses back into
the bible to actually seek and to learn FROM GOD . But many just wont do that for themselves .

 

[amigo de christo]

If salvation can't be lost why is there a judgement for the faithful - there should be no judgement at all of the faithful if salvation is never lost.There are many evil people who believe and count on the free ride without any remorse for what they have done or intend to do or are doing.The parable of the goat and the sheep shows judgement.Your either a goat or a sheep and the goats are faithful in the parable yet lose their salvation.Same with the parable of the talents salvation is lost.

the goats were not faithful . they may have been wearing some wool
but it was appearance only . Many use JESUS lovely name to justify sin .
MANY use grace as a means to call the true sheep who actually DO live by true grace , as ha ters and leg alistic monsters .
Grace actually teaches us something that most have not even experienced .
TO DENY ungodliness and wordly lusts and to be living soberly righteously and godly .
GUESS their g race FORGOT ALL ABOU TTHAT , as all it does is overlook sins and even now honors some sins .
EVEN unbeleif is skyrocketing . EVEN unbeleif is being preached as love now . T his generation is tanked .
Time to arise and contend for the true faith my friends .
Time to put a bible into the hand of every man woman and c hild too .
Time to stop trusting in man and start trusting IN GOD , IN CHRIST , IN HIS WORDS of Truth .

 

[GRACE ambassador]

If salvation can't be lost why is there a judgement for the faithful - there should be no judgement at all of the faithful if salvation is never lost.There are many evil people who believe and count on the free ride without any remorse for what they have done or intend to do or are doing.The parable of the goat and the sheep shows judgement.Your either a goat or a sheep and the goats are faithful in the parable yet lose their salvation.Same with the parable of the talents salvation is lost.

Precious friend, that particular Judgment is for Israel and the nations on earth; The Bema
Judgment Seat In Heaven Is For The Body Of Christ ( for Both "the faithful and the unfaithful )!:

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own​

reward according to his own labour. For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's​

husbandry, ye are God's building.​

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According to The Grace Of God Which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid​

The Foundation, and another buildeth Thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth​

Thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than That Is Laid, Which is Jesus Christ.​

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Now if any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;​

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed​

by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he​

hath built Thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer​

loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)​

Amen.

The Bema Seat Judgment Occurs At:

 

[amigo de christo]

Precious friend, that particular Judgment is for Israel and the nations on earth; The Bema
Judgment Seat In Heaven Is For The Body Of Christ ( for Both "the faithful and the unfaithful )!:

"Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own​

reward according to his own labour. For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's​

husbandry, ye are God's building.​

​

According to The Grace Of God Which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid​

The Foundation, and another buildeth Thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth​

Thereupon. For other foundation can no man lay than That Is Laid, Which is Jesus Christ.​

​

Now if any man build upon This Foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;​

Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed​

by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he​

hath built Thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer​

loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire." (1 Corinthians 3:8-15 AV)​

Amen.

The Bema Seat Judgment Occurs At:
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THE GLORIOUS LORD shall indeed return as HE has promised .
But woe wail unto all who sat under ecumenical interfaith . its time for folks to leave such places
and never look back . Take any willing soul with you as you go out the door .
JESUS has BEEN DENIED . I repeat DENIED and that house is coming DOWN on HIS DAY .

 

[BreadOfLife]

He was also Joseph's only child. Did he have trouble with the nonexistent first wife?

He wasn’t Joseph’s child. Joseph was His foster-father. GOD was His Father.

READ your Bible . . .

It is amazing to me that you thyself to be a good judge of character.

It’s not me.
I just take the advice of Scripture . . .

Matt. 7:18-20
A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

You still don't understand the uterine brother-ship under Eve is how Jesus expanded the definition of adelphos. This is nonstandard Greek use.

WRONG.

The use of “adelphos” as being other that uterine sibling was in use 200 years before Jesus was born.
We see examples of this in the Septuagint:
- In Gen. 14:14, Lot is called Abraham’s "adelphos", even though he was his nephew (Gen. 11:26–28).

- Gen. 29:15, Jacob is referred to as the "adelphos" of his uncle Laban.

- Brothers Kish and Eleazar were the sons of Mahli. Kish had sons of his own, but Eleazar’s daughters married their "adelphoi”, the sons of Kish - who were actually their cousins (1 Chr. 23:21–22).

The Hebrew word “ach” has the SAME broad meaning as the Greek “adelphos” – and always has.
YOU just make up your nonsense as you go along . . .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Yes, thou doesn't understand Passover in the "desert".

And thou doesn’t understand that Jesus wasn’t talking about Passover in John 3.

Like I said – you’ll pervert God’s Word just to disagree.