1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 is not talking about world peace and safety

[Spiritual Israelite]

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

The context of this passage has absolutely nothing to do with the peace and safety of the world. There is nothing written there relating to world peace and safety. The ones who say "peace and safety" are all of those who are in spiritual darkness. So, them saying "peace and safety" is in relation to them falsely thinking that they are at spiritual peace and are safe from God's wrath. Those who are not "the children of light", as we in the church are, are instead said to be "in darkness". Paul figuratively refers to them as being asleep or drunk. They are completely oblivious to the wrath that will come down upon them when the Lord Jesus returns unexpectedly as a thief in the night to bring "sudden destruction" upon them from which "they shall not escape".

One reason that pre-tribs don't see this passage as relating to the return of Christ is because they think there will not be world peace and safety before the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night. So, they try to say this passage relates to a pre-trib rapture that occurs during a time of world peace and safety instead. And they say a time of great tribulation in the world occurs after Jesus comes as a thief in the night. But, the passage is not about world peace and safety before Jesus comes as a thief in the night. This passage relates directly to what Jesus said about how things will be before He returns unexpectedly. Jesus said this...

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Like Paul, Jesus taught that His return will come unexpectedly. No one knows the day or hour. He will come as a thief in the night, as Jesus Himself said He will (Matt 24:42-44, Luke 12:36-39, Rev 16:15). Those who are in spiritual darkness will continue living their lives as if they are spiritually at peace and safe from God's wrath just like people did in the days of Noah before they were all killed by the flood (all except Noah and his family, of course). But, they are not spiritually at peace and safe from God's wrath since Jesus will come as a thief in the night and bring "sudden destruction" upon them from which "they shall not escape" and they will all be killed when Jesus comes as a thief in the night just as all unbelievers were killed by the flood in Noah's day after previously thinking they were at peace and safe from God's wrath.

 

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One reason that pre-tribs don't see this passage as relating to the return of Christ is because they think there will not be world peace and safety before Jesus returns.

I've been in pre-trib circles for decades, and I've never heard many of the claims you attribute to pre-trib teaching. Including this one.

It's straw man after straw man after straw man, on and on.

Much love!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I've been in pre-trib circles for decades, and I've never heard many of the claims you attribute to pre-trib teaching. Including this one.

It's straw man after straw man after straw man, on and on.

There's no straw man argument here. Pre-tribs are the ones who are experts at making straw man arguments, just as you have done yourself many times.

I don't care what you've heard anyone claim. I know what I've seen and heard pre-tribs claim. I'm not just making it up. Your little pre-trib circles don't represent all pre-tribs.

Why would pre-tribs believe there will be world peace and safety just before Jesus returns when they believe all of the seals, trumpets and vials of God's wrath occur during a time of great tribulation after the rapture and before Jesus returns? That makes no sense. Do you claim that there will be world peace and safety just before Jesus returns despite also believing that all the seals, trumpets and vials occur before He returns?

Give me even one example of any straw man argument I've made about pre-trib. Good luck. You just make things up. You have never given any indication that you want to be taken seriously because you just speak total nonsense most of the time.

 

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I don't care

I get that.

Nonetheless, strawman after strawman . . .

And your "put downs" show you, not me. What's in your heart. That's what defiles. I truly wish at least once one of you could actually see yourself.

Much love!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I get that.

Nonetheless, strawman after strawman . . .

And your "put downs" show you, not me. What's in your heart. That's what defiles. I truly wish at least once one of you could actually see yourself.

Much love!

You are a liar. My argument was not a straw man argument. Do you believe there will be world peace and safety just before Jesus returns? Why didn't you answer that question? If I'm making a straw man argument, then that would mean you and all other pre-tribs believe there will be world peace and safety before Jesus returns. So, is that what you believe or not?

I see myself just fine. I see myself calling out liars like you who make false accusations about me.

Strawman after strawman? Give me even one example of a strawman argument I've made against pre-trib in the past. Just one.

 

[ScottA]

1 Thessalonians 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness. 6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night. 8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation. 9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, 10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

The context of this passage has absolutely nothing to do with the peace and safety of the world. There is nothing written there relating to world peace and safety. The ones who say "peace and safety" are all of those who are in spiritual darkness. So, them saying "peace and safety" is in relation to them falsely thinking that they are at spiritual peace and are safe from God's wrath. Those who are not "the children of light", as we in the church are, are instead said to be "in darkness". Paul figuratively refers to them as being asleep or drunk. They are completely oblivious to the wrath that will come down upon them when the Lord Jesus returns unexpectedly as a thief in the night to bring "sudden destruction" upon them from which "they shall not escape".

One reason that pre-tribs don't see this passage as relating to the return of Christ is because they think there will not be world peace and safety before Jesus returns. So, they try to say this passage relates to a pre-trib rapture that occurs during a time of world peace and safety instead. And they say a time of great tribulation in the world occurs after Jesus comes as a thief in the night. But, the passage is not about world peace and safety before Jesus comes as a thief in the night. This passage relates directly to what Jesus said about how things will be before He returns unexpectedly. Jesus said this...

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. 36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Like Paul, Jesus taught that His return will come unexpectedly. No one knows the day or hour. He will come as a thief in the night, as Jesus Himself said He will (Matt 24:42-44, Luke 12:36-39, Rev 16:15). Those who are in spiritual darkness will continue living their lives as if they are spiritually at peace and safe from God's wrath just like people did in the days of Noah before they were all killed by the flood (all except Noah and his family, of course). But, they are not spiritually at peace and safe from God's wrath since Jesus will come as a thief in the night and bring "sudden destruction" upon them from which "they shall not escape" and they will all be killed when Jesus comes as a thief in the night just as all unbelievers were killed by the flood in Noah's day after previously thinking they were at peace and safe from God's wrath.

That's good, and I don't really want to change the focus of the thread. But since what you quoted from the scriptures shows "the Lord Jesus returns" and the timing of would-be "peace and safety" as both being in "darkness" ("as a thief in the night")--It begs the question: When then, should we reasonably consider the time of Jesus's return--if "the ones who say "peace and safety"--live and walk in "darkness" just as Jesus returns "in the night" in "darkness" ("but each one in his own order" or time in history}?

Of course, many--most--since Christ first came have explained it away--but here you have presented a good case--against what many have believed.

 

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You are a liar.

Again . . . you reveal yourself this way . . . not me. Again, what's in the heart comes out the mouth. It's what is in the heart that defiles.

Much love!

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Again . . . you reveal yourself this way . . . not me. Again, what's in the heart comes out the mouth. It's what is in the heart that defiles.

Much love!

There is nothing wrong with me telling the truth about you being a liar. You made a false accusation about me supposedly making a strawman argument against pre-tribs, which I did not do. There are plenty of pre-tribs who don't believe there will be world peace and safety before Jesus returns. I'm not sure why any pre-trib would believe there will be world peace and safety when they also interpret the seals, trumpets and vials all literally in relation to physical disasters happening on the earth before Jesus returns.

Anyone who reads this thread will know you came here unprovoked to make false accusations against me. And everyone here can see that you are afraid to answer my simple question of whether or not you believe there will be world peace and safety just before Jesus returns. How about you just answer that simple question? Is that asking too much?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

That's good, and I don't really want to change the focus of the thread. But since what you quoted from the scriptures shows "the Lord Jesus returns" and the timing of would-be "peace and safety" as both being in "darkness" ("as a thief in the night")--It begs the question: When then, should we reasonably consider the time of Jesus's return--if "the ones who say "peace and safety"--live and walk in "darkness" just as Jesus returns "in the night" in "darkness" ("but each one in his own order" or time in history}?

Of course, many--most--since Christ first came have explained it away--but here you have presented a good case--against what many have believed.

I appreciate your kind words, but I have to correct you on one thing. When Paul refers to "darkness" in that thread he is referring to unbelievers being in spiritual darkness in contrast to believers being "children of the light".

The word "darkness" has no relation to Jesus coming as a thief in the night. It seems you're trying to relate the word darkness to the word night there, but Jesus coming as a thief in the night simply refers to the fact that He will come unexpectedly, similar to how a thief comes unexpectedly in the night when no one expects it. Jesus Himself said that He will come as a thief (Matt 24:42-44, Luke 12:36-39, Rev 16:15) and that no one knows the day or hour of His coming (Matt 24:36, Matt 25:13), so it just relates to the unexpected nature of His second coming.

 

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And everyone here can see that you are afraid to answer my simple question of whether or not you believe there will be world peace and safety just before Jesus returns. How about you just answer that simple question? Is that asking too much?

Look at you continue to vaunt yourself!

I posted that you've misrepresented pre-tribbers all over, and you reply with trying to put me down, calling names, all that garbage.

Now you hope others will see me as afraid of you, what a laugh! There will be peace and safety followed by sudden destruction, exactly as the Bible says.

If you think of the "sudden destruction" as the White Throne Judgment, for instance, then the peace and safety might be interpretted as safety from that, as you are indicating.

But if you consider the sudden destruction to be any number of calamities to befall the earth at the end of the age, the peace and safety would be more of the material kind, like the calamities.

My interest was in the point I posted. Not your "gotcha question" loaded with presuppositions.

Your words, from your heart, reveal you. Won't you ever realize that?

I've said what I came to say, that you continue to misrepresent pre-tribbers, and you'd be better off not doing that.

Much love!

 

[Scott Downey]

Does not seem to be world wide peace and safety when Christ returns according to the circumstances before His return that He mentions.
What I read implies great fear and turmoil.

v25 begins the teaching of the time surrounding His returning.

Bible Gateway passage: Luke 21 - 21st Century King James Version

And He looked up and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury, and He saw also a certain poor widow casting therein two mites. And He said, "In truth I say unto you that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all. For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the...

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20 “And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them that are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let them that are in the midst of it depart out, and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days! For there shall be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25 “And there shall be signs in the sun and in the moon and in the stars; and upon the earth distress among nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring.

26 Men’s hearts will fail them for fear and for looking upon those things which are coming on the earth; for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up and lift up your heads, for your redemption draweth nigh.”

29 And He spoke to them a parable: “Behold the fig tree and all the trees.

30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.

31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the Kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

32 Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

33 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.

34 “And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkenness and cares of this life, and so that Day come upon you unawares.

35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

37 And in the daytime He was teaching in the temple; and at night He went out and stayed on the mount that is called the Mount of Olives.

38 And all the people came early in the morning to Him in the temple to hear Him.

 

[Scott Downey]

The people of that time are not feeling good about their lives or the future. Not complacent, their hearts are failing for fears of the things happening around them. They will be stressed greatly.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Look at you continue to vaunt yourself!

I posted that you've misrepresented pre-tribbers all over, and you reply with trying to put me down, calling names, all that garbage.

Grow up already. You can't even answer a simple question. You accused me of making a straw man argument about pre-tribs. I'm not allowed to address that? It's a false accusation. If you would just answer that simple question, then we can determine if what I said applies to what you believe or not.

Now you hope others will see me as afraid of you, what a laugh!

LOL. I said no such thing. This has to do with you being dishonest by making false accusations about me, not of you being afraid of me.

There will be peace and safety followed by sudden destruction, exactly as the Bible says.

Was that so hard to answer the question? So, what is your understanding of the seals, trumpets and vials then? It seems to me that most pre-tribs would relate those to literal physical disasters happening around the world during a time of great tribulation before Jesus returns. How can people talk about world peace and safety if a bunch of physical disasters and chaos is going on around the world? Maybe you don't interpret Revelation the way some other pre-tribs do. So be it. I just know that most pre-tribs that I've seen interpret Revelation the way I described, so it wouldn't make sense for them to claim that there will be world peace and safety just before Jesus returns.

If you think of the "sudden destruction" as the White Throne Judgment, for instance, then the peace and safety might be interpretted as safety from that, as you are indicating.

Not just that, but safety from physical destruction as well. The "sudden destruction" that Paul referenced from which those in spiritual darkness "shall not escape" will be by way of fire coming down on the entire earth, as Peter wrote about in 2 Peter 3:10-12 in relation to the same event Paul wrote about in 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 (namely, the day of the Lord that will come as a thief in the night).

But if you consider the sudden destruction to be any number of calamities to befall the earth at the end of the age, the peace and safety would be more of the material kind, like the calamities.

I'm not sure what you're saying here. Remember, Paul said "they shall not escape" the "sudden destruction" that will come upon them. So, what is your understanding of these calamities to befall the earth at the end of the age? Do you have any unbelievers escaping them? If so, that would contradict what Paul said and would contradict what Peter wrote about the same event in 2 Peter 3:10-12.

My interest was in the point I posted. Not your "gotcha question" loaded with presuppositions.

It's not a gotcha question. Are you paranoid? You really need to grow up. It's a valid question that I'm asking to help clarify what you believe, which may be different than what some other pre-tribs believe.

What I'm saying about pre-tribs is that it makes no sense for them to think that they would be saying "peace and safety" right up until the day Jesus returns when, as far as I can tell, most, if not all, pre-tribs do not believe there will be world peace and safety up until the day Jesus returns. That includes you. You apparently see 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 as relating to "any number of calamities to befall the earth at the end of the age", but you see them as occurring before the day Jesus returns, right? So, how could you claim that you believe that they will say "peace and safety" in the time period leading up to and including the day of His return?

Your words, from your heart, reveal you. Won't you ever realize that?

I'm fully aware of that. What I'm revealing in this thread is that I don't appreciate people like you lying and making false accusations about me. Your dishonest words about me reveal something very wrong with your own heart.

I've said what I came to say, that you continue to misrepresent pre-tribbers, and you'd be better off not doing that.

Here's another simple question I've asked that you have yet to answer. Can you name even one time that I've misrepresented pre-tribbers in the past? If not, then why are you making that claim? Also, you act as if I purposely misrepresent pre-tribbers, which is absolutely false. If I have done that, it would have been by mistake. But, it would be helpful for you to give at least one example in the past where I've done that. You've accused me of doing that in this thread, but I didn't.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Does not seem to be world wide peace and safety when Christ returns according to the circumstances before His return that He mentions.
What I read implies great fear and turmoil.

v25 begins the teaching of the time surrounding His returning.

Bible Gateway passage: Luke 21 - 21st Century King James Version

And He looked up and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury, and He saw also a certain poor widow casting therein two mites. And He said, "In truth I say unto you that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all. For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the...

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20 “And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

21 Then let them that are in Judea flee to the mountains, and let them that are in the midst of it depart out, and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.

22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

23 But woe unto them that are with child and to them that give suck in those days! For there shall be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people.

24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be trodden down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.

25 “And there shall be signs in the sun and in the moon and in the stars; and upon the earth distress among nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring.

26 Men’s hearts will fail them for fear and for looking upon those things which are coming on the earth; for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.

27 And then shall they see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up and lift up your heads, for your redemption draweth nigh.”

29 And He spoke to them a parable: “Behold the fig tree and all the trees.

30 When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.

31 So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the Kingdom of God is nigh at hand.

32 Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.

33 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but My words shall not pass away.

34 “And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting and drunkenness and cares of this life, and so that Day come upon you unawares.

35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

37 And in the daytime He was teaching in the temple; and at night He went out and stayed on the mount that is called the Mount of Olives.

38 And all the people came early in the morning to Him in the temple to hear Him.

Scott, I think you're missing the point of this thread. I'm talking about the days before Jesus returns, not the actual day He returns. Luke 21:25-28 describes things that happen on the day He returns. Jesus said in Matthew 24:37-39 that the days before His return will be like the days of Noah when unbelievers were completely unaware of the wrath that was going to come upon them by way of the flood. Do you think people would be talking about world peace and safety in the days before Christ's return when Jesus Himself said they will be doing their normal things (eating, drinking, marrying, etc.) up until the day He returns?

Do you think Paul is talking about world peace and safety in 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3? There is no indication anywhere in 1 Thessalonians 5 that he is talking in that context. Instead, he is talking from the perspective of those who are in spiritual darkness and think they are spiritually at peace and safe from God's wrath.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The people of that time are not feeling good about their lives or the future. Not complacent, their hearts are failing for fears of the things happening around them. They will be stressed greatly.

Regardless of any of that, unbelievers will still be saying "peace and safety" right up until the day that Jesus comes as a thief in the night. So, what is your understanding of that? Do you agree with me that it relates to them feeling spiritually at peace and safe from God's wrath? Even people who are stressed about things going on around them still deny their need to repent and believe and still think they are safe from God's wrath.

 

[Truth7t7]

I get that.

Nonetheless, strawman after strawman . . .

And your "put downs" show you, not me. What's in your heart. That's what defiles. I truly wish at least once one of you could actually see yourself.

Much love!

Not put-downs, just exposing the false teachings of John N. Darby and C.I. Scofield in a pre-trib rapture that doesn't exist in scripture that you believe and teach

No different than exposing the false teachings of Mormonism or the Jehovahs Witnesses

 

[Scott Downey]

Regardless of any of that, unbelievers will still be saying "peace and safety" right up until the day that Jesus comes as a thief in the night. So, what is your understanding of that? Do you agree with me that it relates to them feeling spiritually at peace and safe from God's wrath? Even people who are stressed about things going on around them still deny their need to repent and believe and still think they are safe from God's wrath.

To reconcile these 2 things...

Paul in 1 Thess 5 emphasizes the psychological illusion of peace before judgment.

Jesus's words in Luke 21 emphasizes the observable reality once judgment unfolds.

Illusion of peace, complacency blinds the world. The world of men always denies divine justice on their sins, until it happens, i.e., that sudden destruction. And they will not escape.

Then the reality of their distress, cosmic upheaval reveals the truth, culminating in Christ’s return.

I won't pretend to know how long they will feel this angst and heart rending fear at the end, but before that, the wicked will not be feeling like that. Not until they see things begin to happen.

Even so the world causes great stresses in all people's lives right now, even in believer's lives. As in the world, people have tribulation.

John 16:33
These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

 

[Douggg]

It's simple. The world will be saying peace and safety because it will be thinking it has entered the messianic age, with the Antichrist being the perceived messiah.

That perception and false messianic age will be shattered when the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act described in 2Thessalonians2:4. He will sit in the temple, and claim to have achieved God-hood.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

To reconcile these 2 things...

Paul in 1 Thess 5 emphasizes the psychological illusion of peace before judgment.

Jesus's words in Luke 21 emphasizes the observable reality once judgment unfolds.

Illusion of peace, complacency blinds the world. The world of men always denies divine justice on their sins, until it happens, i.e., that sudden destruction. And they will not escape.

Then the reality of their distress, cosmic upheaval reveals the truth, culminating in Christ’s return.

I won't pretend to know how long they will feel this angst and heart rending fear at the end, but before that, the wicked will not be feeling like that. Not until they see things begin to happen.

Even so the world causes great stresses in all people's lives right now, even in believer's lives. As in the world, people have tribulation.

John 16:33
These things I have spoken to you, that in Me you may have peace. In the world you will have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

I'm not denying that people have stress and tribulation in life, but that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 where Paul says they will be saying "peace and safety" in the time just before Jesus returns. If you read all of 1 Thessalonians 5 you should see that the context of the "peace and safety" is in relation to those who are in spiritual darkness and not in relation to the status of the world. So, Paul is talking about people having a false sense of spiritual security while being oblivious to the wrath, in the form of "sudden destruction", that will come upon them when Jesus returns. Do you agree with that?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

It's simple. The world will be saying peace and safety because it will be thinking it has entered the messianic age, with the Antichrist being the perceived messiah.

That perception and false messianic age will be shattered when the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act described in 2Thessalonians2:4. He will sit in the temple, and claim to have achieved God-hood.

Did you even read 1 Thessalonians 5? Apparently, context means absolutely nothing to you. Nowhere does Paul say anything there about what you're talking about. Instead, he talks about those who are in spiritual darkness and contrasts them with those who are "the children of light" who are spiritually "sober". Those in spiritual darkness are spiritually unaware of their status as objects of God's wrath and they have a false sense of spiritual security, thinking that they are spiritually at peace and safe from God's wrath. They will find out otherwise when Jesus comes as a thief in the night and brings "sudden destruction" upon them from which "they shall not escape".