THE CHURCH, THE BODY OF CHRIST, WILL NOT FACE THE WRATH OF THE TRIBULATION
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It is as stated, the body of Christ, the church in this dispensation................[1Co 12:27 KJV] "Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular."
rebuilder 454
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JLB
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Sorry bro, you no scriptures for me to study.
Please post scripture, not just a scripture reference.
We see plainly from what Jesus taught and what Paul taught that the resurrection of the dead in Christ occurs at the second coming of Christ.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
- Here is plain and clear language that shows us that both the resurrection and rapture occur at His coming.
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first.
- Next we see that Jesus Christ Himself will descend from Heaven and will be visible to all, in which the dead in Christ will rise first, before the rapture.
Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17
- Then, both the resurrected ones and the raptured ones will be caught up together, to be with the Lord. The resurrection and rapture occur at His coming, on the last Day, and is one event, where all His church will be gathered together.
rebuilder 454
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Study?
You need me to do your study?
You don't have biblegateway handy to investigate Rev 14?
I can basically quote it for you.
" I saw one sitting on a cloud holding. A sickle and the angel told the one sitting on the cloud to thrust in his sickle, And reap the harvest of the earth"
How do I know it is during the trib?
Because a few sentences later the great battle accours.
But ch 15 starts the wrath part of the great tribulation.
IOW I bothered to investigate it.
So it is appalling to me that you will not investigate.
No interest in uncovering the truth?
You don't know the word.
You have an "idea" mentally.
A mental picture outside the bible, and are just absolutely sure that bible has to be wrong.
You don't know...because you do not investigate.
You still don't know that all die or take the mark during the gt.
You still don't know that mat 24 has 2 gatherings.
You still don't know that Rev 14:14s gathering is BEFORE THE SECOND COMING.
You can not call God's word a lie honestly.
The body of Christ is made up of those who believed the gospel delivered to Paul.............
[1Co 15:1 KJV] "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;"
[1Co 15:3 KJV] "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;"
[1Co 15:4 KJV] "And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"
JLB
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‘No not at all.
I need you to post actual scripture when you are making a biblical point.
rebuilder 454
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Rev 14?
I can basically quote it for you.
" I saw one sitting on a cloud holding. A sickle and the angel told the one sitting on the cloud to thrust in his sickle, And reap the harvest of the earth"
How do I know it is during the trib?
Because a few sentences later the great battle accours.
But ch 15 starts the wrath part of the great tribulation.
IOW I bothered to investigate it.
So it is appalling to me that you will not investigate.
No interest in uncovering the truth?
You don't know the word.
You have an "idea" mentally.
A mental picture outside the bible, and are just absolutely sure that bible has to be wrong.
You don't know...because you do not investigate.
You still don't know that all die or take the mark
JLB
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‘Nothing here about the rapture or resurrection.
Sorry but you ignore the crystal clear irrefutable words of Jesus Christ and Paul to try and project your theory into a passage of scripture.
The second coming of Jesus Christ is when the resurrection and rapture takes place.
For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 1 Thessalonians 4:15
In the book of Revelation that occurs in Chapter 19, not 14.
Which Christ? Many say they believe but reject Jesus' of the Bibles doctrines, I.E Jesus is God and Hell Fire is FOREVER, the Genesis Flood, etc! MILLIONS of JW's for example.
I think you made clear the most important thing. Jesus is God, the Savior!
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