Flat Earth Theory

[David in NJ]

What country or continent do you believe is in the middle of the FLAT EARTH ?
Simple question, answer when ready :)

This one Truth is enough to set your mind FREE

35Thus says the Lord,
Who gives the sun for a light by day,
The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night,
Who disturbs the sea,
And its waves roar
(The Lord of hosts is His name):
36“If those ordinances depart
From before Me, says the Lord,
Then the seed of Israel shall also cease
From being a nation before Me forever.”
37Thus says the Lord:

“If heaven above can be measured,
And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,
I will also cast off all the seed of Israel
For all that they have done, says the Lord.

 

[rvmb]

This one Truth is enough to set your mind FREE

35Thus says the Lord,
Who gives the sun for a light by day,
The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night,
Who disturbs the sea,
And its waves roar
(The Lord of hosts is His name):
36“If those ordinances depart
From before Me, says the Lord,
Then the seed of Israel shall also cease
From being a nation before Me forever.”
37Thus says the Lord:

“If heaven above can be measured,
And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,
I will also cast off all the seed of Israel
For all that they have done, says the Lord.

What country do you believe the Bible teaches is in the middle of the flat earth ?
Easy question, answer when ready :)

 

[David in NJ]

What country do you believe the Bible teaches is in the middle of the flat earth ?
Easy question, answer when ready :)

Do you know who persisted in this manner in the Gospel??? = the pharisees

JESUS just quoted the Scripture to them as i am for you.

“If heaven above can be measured,
And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,
I will also cast off all the seed of Israel
For all that they have done, says the Lord.

 

[rvmb]

Do you know who persisted in this manner in the Gospel??? = the pharisees

JESUS just quoted the Scripture to them as i am for you.

“If heaven above can be measured,
And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,
I will also cast off all the seed of Israel
For all that they have done, says the Lord.

and the country that the Bible teaches is in the middle of the flat earth is ?

 

[Archie]

GOD gave us science.
Science confirms many events in the Bible.
Please list ANY observable science that proves that a globe earth is a lie.
Simple test:-
FLAT earth maps show Arctic in the center of the map.
Why does ARCTIC today have NO SUNRISE AT ALL yet tip of South America has over 17 hours daily sunlight ?
If you don't believe Google then ring a business near the Arctic and bottom of South America to confirm :)

Perhaps you are correct, maybe it was God who gave us science.

But science and wisdom are not synonymous. And as is the case with so many of the good gifts given by God, sinful man will in no short order pervert them. What once were the means used by men to search out the mysteries of creation, have been twisted through vainglorious pride and wicked deceit into the very methods whereby the creation of God has been corrupted beyond measure, with God Himself being debauched, debased, defamed and denied.

The very idea of the Creator and Sustainer of all that is and ever was, and all that shall ever be, now being relentlessly mocked and ridiculed, and vehemently resisted by those, who of all men, the practitioners of this science of which you speak, while blessed with the wisdom to seek out and discover the hidden things of God, having now set themselves about the business of denying His very existence, and hiding whatever natural proofs of His existence there may be, from any and all who sincerely desire to find them.

Was it Marx who said that "religion is the opiate of the masses?" Without denying or affirming his observation, it is plain to all with eyes to see, that "science" is that new sorcery. And with every good fruit that falls to the ground from this poisonous tree, there springs forth a hundred evils to plague the souls of men.

Judge the tree by its fruit.

Whatever great beginnings it once may have had, science has become nothing more than yet another pagan practice, whose priests and prophets espouse the solitary doctrine, that there is no god but man.

 

[rvmb]

Perhaps you are correct, maybe it was God who gave us science.

But science and wisdom are not synonymous. And as is the case with so many of the good gifts given by God, sinful man will in no short order pervert them. What once were the means used by men to search out the mysteries of creation, have been twisted through vainglorious pride and wicked deceit into the very methods whereby the creation of God has been corrupted beyond measure, with God Himself being debauched, debased, defamed and denied.

The very idea of the Creator and Sustainer of all that is and ever was, and all that shall ever be, now being relentlessly mocked and ridiculed, and vehemently resisted by those, who of all men, the practitioners of this science of which you speak, while blessed with the wisdom to seek out and discover the hidden things of God, having now set themselves about the business of denying His very existence, and hiding whatever natural proofs of His existence there may be, from any and all who sincerely desire to find them.

Was it Marx who said that "religion is the opiate of the masses?" Without denying or affirming his observation, it is plain to all with eyes to see, that "science" is that new sorcery. And with every good fruit that falls to the ground from this poisonous tree, there springs forth a hundred evils to plague the souls of men.

Judge the tree by its fruit.

Whatever great beginnings it once may have had, science has become nothing more than yet another pagan practice, whose priests and prophets espouse the solitary doctrine, that there is no god but man.

The simple question Archie is :-
Since some believe the Bible teaches the earth is flat, then what country does the Bible teach is in the middle of the FLAT EARTH ?
It's a simple question :)

 

[Archie]

The simple question Archie is :-
Since some believe the Bible teaches the earth is flat, then what country does the Bible teach is in the middle of the FLAT EARTH ?
It's a simple question :)

I'm sure that the answer you are looking for is Israel, but the clearest passage of scripture related to your question does not mention Israel, but Jerusalem, in Ezekiel chapter 5.

 

[rvmb]

I'm sure that the answer you are looking for is Israel, but the clearest passage of scripture related to your question does not mention Israel, but Jerusalem, in Ezekiel chapter 5.

Not asking for proof just your belief based on what you understand the Bible teaches.
Confirming you BELIEVE that Israel is in or near the center of what some believe is a Bible taught flat earth.

 

[Archie]

Not asking for proof just your belief based on what you understand the Bible teaches.
Confirming you BELIEVE that Israel is in or near the center of what some believe is a Bible taught flat earth.

But I do not believe that. As I have stated before in this thread, I believe in Christ, and all the scriptures teach about Him, every other view that I may subscribe to, doctrinal, eschatological, prophetic etc, I cling to very loosely, including biblical cosmology. Jerusalem is indeed the center of the nations (the word earth is not used), the bible clearly states as much, but I do not take this passage relayed to us by Ezekiel in the midst of an apocalyptic vision to be one of a geographic nature. The Messiah revealed Himself at Jerusalem, He was crucified there, He rose there, and He ascended there, or at least He did all those things in very close proximity. Seeing as these events are the most important events that have ever transpired in human history, they are clearly "central" to all that God has done. Or to put it another way, one could easily say the cross of Christ is the center of the universe, though of course, the word universe is not mentioned in any of the earliest available manuscripts as far as I know.

 

[rvmb]

But I do not believe that. As I have stated before in this thread, I believe in Christ, and all the scriptures teach about Him, every other view that I may subscribe to, doctrinal, eschatological, prophetic etc, I cling to very loosely, including biblical cosmology. Jerusalem is indeed the center of the nations (the word earth is not used), the bible clearly states as much, but I do not take this passage relayed to us by Ezekiel in the midst of an apocalyptic vision to be one of a geographic nature. The Messiah revealed Himself at Jerusalem, He was crucified there, He rose there, and He ascended there, or at least He did all those things in very close proximity. Seeing as these events are the most important events that have ever transpired in human history, they are clearly "central" to all that God has done. Or to put it another way, one could easily say the cross of Christ is the center of the universe, though of course, the word universe is not mentioned in any of the earliest available manuscripts as far as I know.

Based with simple observation & simple logic, do you believe in a BALL or FLAT earth ?
If a flat belief, would you be prepared to answer 2 simple questions ?

 

[Archie]

Based with simple observation & simple logic, do you believe in a BALL or FLAT earth ?
If a flat belief, would you be prepared to answer 2 simple questions ?

As a good brother of mine once quipped, "assume, that like firearms, all questions are loaded."

But of course, I don't shy away from any questions.

As I already clearly stated, I believe in Christ, all other matters are peripheral. So no, I do not "believe' in flat earth. Not anymore than I believe we are living on a spinning ball rocketing through an ever expanding universe. But for your purposes, let's presume that I do.

What are your questions?

You obviously have them preloaded, so fire away.

 

[David in NJ]

and the country that the Bible teaches is in the middle of the flat earth is ?

Well now, did God give us that country in His Word?

 

[Archie]

Well now, did God give us that country in His Word?

He did, Ezekiel 5:5, though I don't think it means what rvmb is about to insist that it does.

 

[rvmb]

Well now, did God give us that country in His Word?

Please help me learn, what is the name of the country that The Bible teaches is in the middle of the FLAT EARTH

 

[Archie]

Please help me learn, what is the name of the country that The Bible teaches is in the middle of the FLAT EARTH

Dude, its not a country, its a city, its Jerusalem. Can you please get to the point?

 

[rvmb]

Dude, its not a country, its a city, its Jerusalem. Can you please get to the point?

First of all DUDE, when did I respond to you with disrespect ? NOWHERE.
I'm here to talk civilly and with respect.
So lets cut the hey man, dude nonsense and stick with the topic

 

[Archie]

First of all DUDE, when did I respond to you with disrespect ? NOWHERE.
I'm here to talk civilly and with respect.
So lets cut the hey man, dude nonsense and stick with the topic

Very well, Mr. Dude, will you please just ask your questions? I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but this Socratic method you're employing is growing tiresome.

 

[rvmb]

Very well, Mr. Dude, will you please just ask your questions? I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but this Socratic method you're employing is growing tiresome.

Well Mr Dude, if the earth is flat and Israel is in the middle of the "FLAT EARTH"
Why did Israel only have 10 hours sun today while Cape Horn had 17 hours today ?
If the earth is flat then why such a HUGE difference ?

 

[Archie]

Well Mr Dude, if the earth is flat and Israel is in the middle of the "FLAT EARTH"
Why did Israel only have 10 hours sun today while Cape Horn had 17 hours today ?
If the earth is flat then why such a HUGE difference ?
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Thank you, and I kinda like the Mr. Dude thing, not in the least bit offended by it.

Well sir, if you had read my other post, you would know that I do not agree that scripture teaches Israel is in the geographic center of the earth, but that Jerusalem is the spiritual center of all the cosmos.

That's one question answered.

You said you have two.

 

[rvmb]

Thank you, and I kinda like the Mr. Dude thing, not in the least bit offended by it.

Well sir, if you had read my other post, you would know that I do not agree that scripture teaches Israel is in the geographic center of the earth, but that Jerusalem is the spiritual center of all the cosmos.

That's one question answered.

You said you have two.

""That's one question answered."" - Where did you answer why the difference in sunlight hours ?
Regardless of location, if the earth is FLAT why nearly double the hours sun difference between Israel & Cape Horn today ?