Flat Earth Theory

[GodsGrace]

So what tells you it's a globe? Just that you saw the ship disappear below the horizon?

If so, how would that mean earth is a globe? Genuinely curious, haha

Hi Rudometkin
Here are my thoughts on the subject:

We could have debated this 100 years ago...
but how can this be debated today?
Isn't the answer obvious?

We've gone to the moon.
We've seen the earth from space...
it looks like a globe.
Could this be an illusion?
No?
Then it's a globe.

Also, many have flown on the Concord...
Even from the Concord the curvature of the earth was visible/perceptible to the eye.

Do you think this closes the deal...
or can this subject still be debated??

 

[Rudometkin]

Hi Rudometkin
Here are my thoughts on the subject:

We could have debated this 100 years ago...
but how can this be debated today?
Isn't the answer obvious?

We've gone to the moon.

Hi GodsGrace. Then why did NASA evidently fake the crescent of the earth during the "moon landing" trip?

We've seen the earth from space...
it looks like a globe.
Could this be an illusion?
No?
Then it's a globe.

Also, many have flown on the Concord...
Even from the Concord the curvature of the earth was visible/perceptible to the eye.

Do you think this closes the deal...
or can this subject still be debated??

Definitely can still be reasonably debated and actively is. And do you mean you've seen earth from your television? I've seen Godzilla from mine. I haven't seen earth from space.

 

[Rudometkin]

""Like a spotlight"", ""turns around"", "oval path"
What confirmable evidence can you list that supports those thoughts ?

Before you request "confirmable evidence", are you sure you're even open to the possibility?

Are you willing to admit the unreliability of your "common basic observations"?

I'm not a flat-earther, common basic observations on earth itself confirms a sphere.

For me, the logical possibility of it is enough reason to consider the thoughts.

 

[Grailhunter]

Then why did NASA evidently fake the crescent of the earth during the moon landing?

Whatever you are referring to it really does not matter. It is absolutely clear that the earth is round. And all the proof for that has already been posted in this thread.

 

[GodsGrace]

Hi GodsGrace. Then why did NASA evidently fake the crescent of the earth during the "moon landing" trip?


Definitely can still be reasonably debated and actively is. And do you mean you've seen earth from your television? I've seen Godzilla from mine. I haven't seen earth from space.

Apparently, you don't trust the thousands of persons that have flown from NY to London on the Concord (or Paris)
and have seen for themselves the curvature of the earth.

It is not flat.

NASA faked something?
Can you prove this?

And who can know WHY they would do it.

Have YOU ever seen any pictures of the earth from space?
You don't trust them?

Right.
In order to believe something that is not right...
we tell ourselves many lies.

We like to convince ourselves of what is not true.


But I guess it's fun to discuss this...
I guess your reply to my observance is that you don't trust reality.

OK.

 

[shepherdsword]

Whatever you are referring to it really does not matter. It is absolutely clear that the earth is round. And all the proof for that has already been posted in this thread.

If someone wants to believe something all the evidence in the world will not dissuade him. This is why I only take discussions to a certain point. If all evidence has been rejected then it's time for me to move along.

 

[GodsGrace]

Before you request "confirmable evidence", are you sure you're even open to the possibility?

LOL
IF you had confirmable evidence....
we would not only be open to the possibility....

we'd all change our minds!!

Are you willing to admit the unreliability of your "common basic observations"?



What do you mean by "confirmable evidence"?

Confirmable evidence means evidence that can be confirmed more than one time.
Science repeats experiments many times before confirming the result.
Anything can happen one time.
We might also call this imperical evidence.

 

[Rudometkin]

NASA faked something?
Can you prove this?

I said evidently. You tell me what you think.

Watch from at least the 34:23 minute mark to the 40:30 minute mark.

 

[David in NJ]

This earth and solar system with sun and moon as lights for signs is a manifestation of what is true with God.

As such (since you don't see it manifest with all-dimensional being global), how would you describe or make manifest a completely all-dimensional form with God (Light) at the center? Like a Headlight with darkness behind shinning forth upon a cosmic table with darkness underneath, passing one way on, then off returning to the same side of the table again to come on again the next day, passing from side to side, on then off, then on again every day?

How would you make and manifest such an all-dimensional world where Light emits from the Center in every direction?

SIMPLE = GOD told us in His Word

If you reject His Word = the LIGHT goes DIM and you are left with the satanists/globalists teaching you their alternative reality.

You have altered what God has Spoken in Genesis, Jeremiah 31:35-37 and James 1:17

This is satanism 101 = Genesis 3:4-5 = REDIRECT the truth from God's Word just a enough for you to EAT and be filled with a LIE.

ALL of us - repeat - ALL of us are born into this satanic kingdom of alternative reality = Darkness

And you were dead/Darkness in your trespasses and sins, in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. All of us also lived among them at one time, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath.
Eph 2:1-3

 

[David in NJ]

I said evidently. You tell me what you think.

Watch from at least the 34:23 minute mark to the 40:30 minute mark.

Thanks you for posting = keep em coming

 

[GodsGrace]

I said evidently. You tell me what you think.

Watch from at least the 34:23 minute mark to the 40:30 minute mark.

Seen this a thousand times.
It's not the ONLY video available.


How about this?



The Blue Marble

The Blue Marble is a photograph of Earth taken on December 7, 1972, by Harrison Schmitt aboard the Apollo 17 spacecraft on its way to the Moon.[1] Viewed from around 29,400 km (18,300 mi) from Earth's surface,[2] a cropped and rotated version has become one of the most reproduced images in history.[3][4]

In the original NASA image, named AS17-148-22727 and centered at about 26°19′49″S 37°25′13″E with the South Pole facing upwards, The Blue Marble shows Earth from the Mediterranean Sea to Antarctica. This was the first time the Apollo trajectory made it possible to photograph the south polar ice cap, despite the Southern Hemisphere being heavily covered in clouds. In addition to the Arabian Peninsula and Madagascar, almost the entire coastline of Africa and most of the Indian Ocean are clearly visible, a cyclone in the Indian Ocean is also visible, the South Asian mainland and Australia is on the eastern limb, and the eastern part of South America lies on the western limb.

source: The Blue Marble - Wikipedia.

 

[David in NJ]

Seen this a thousand times.
It's not the ONLY video available.


How about this?

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The Blue Marble

The Blue Marble is a photograph of Earth taken on December 7, 1972, by Harrison Schmitt aboard the Apollo 17 spacecraft on its way to the Moon.[1] Viewed from around 29,400 km (18,300 mi) from Earth's surface,[2] a cropped and rotated version has become one of the most reproduced images in history.[3][4]

In the original NASA image, named AS17-148-22727 and centered at about 26°19′49″S 37°25′13″E with the South Pole facing upwards, The Blue Marble shows Earth from the Mediterranean Sea to Antarctica. This was the first time the Apollo trajectory made it possible to photograph the south polar ice cap, despite the Southern Hemisphere being heavily covered in clouds. In addition to the Arabian Peninsula and Madagascar, almost the entire coastline of Africa and most of the Indian Ocean are clearly visible, a cyclone in the Indian Ocean is also visible, the South Asian mainland and Australia is on the eastern limb, and the eastern part of South America lies on the western limb.

source: The Blue Marble - Wikipedia.

That is not a picture taken of earth but it is CGI

 

[ScottA]

SIMPLE = GOD told us in His Word

If you reject His Word = the LIGHT goes DIM and you are left with the satanists/globalists teaching you their alternative reality.

You have altered what God has Spoken in Genesis, Jeremiah 31:35-37 and James 1:17

This is satanism 101 = Genesis 3:4-5 = REDIRECT the truth from God's Word just a enough for you to EAT and be filled with a LIE.

ALL of us - repeat - ALL of us are born into this satanic kingdom of alternative reality = Darkness

And you were dead/Darkness in your trespasses and sins, in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience. All of us also lived among them at one time, fulfilling the cravings of our flesh and indulging its desires and thoughts. Like the rest, we were by nature children of wrath.
Eph 2:1-3

You didn't answer the question.

You also have completely misrepresented or misunderstood what I have said.

If you had answered the question--you would have seen that what you have described of a flat earth is impossible if you have God (Light) manifest in the center emitting light in every direction (which is what is written).

 

[GodsGrace]

That is not a picture taken of earth but it is CGI

Could be.

But I know persons that have seen the curvature of the earth.

You believe the earth is flat?

 

[David in NJ]

You didn't answer the question.

You also have completely misrepresented or misunderstood what I have said.

If you had answered the question--you would have seen that what you have described of a flat earth is impossible if you have God (Light) manifest in the center emitting light in every direction (which is what is written).

LOL Scott

It is ONLY in your mind that is controlled by the LIE of globalism by which you think you understand what James 1:17 is saying.

WOW

This is the SAME deception of those who are under the spell and LIE of pre-trib rapture

 

[Rudometkin]

Seen this a thousand times.

Have you refuted it once?

 

[ProDeo]

YES, with today's technology world record long distance photographs show that we are on a flat earth with Mountains and Valleys.

So, when I step into my private plane (which BTW I don't have) and keep on flying eastwards then either at one moment will fall into space or I return back home. I think it's the latter.

 

[ScottA]

LOL Scott

It is ONLY in your mind that is controlled by the LIE of globalism by which you think you understand what James 1:17 is saying.

WOW

This is the SAME deception of those who are under the spell and LIE of pre-trib rapture

Okay...we (some of us) know what God made manifest. Now let's see how YOU would do it.

Go ahead, let's see your physical, three dimensional mock up (manifestation) of God at the center of the universe emitting His Light in every direction causing both light and darkness to come AROUND daily upon the earth. Let's see it!

Go ahead--prove your point.

Meanwhile, no--no "lie", I gave God credit for creating the perfect manifestation of Him at the center fulfilling everything that is written.

 

[David in NJ]

Could be.

But I know persons that have seen the curvature of the earth.

You believe the earth is flat?

The only people who see the curvature of the earth are those who have bought the LIE of globalism/NASA

Meanwhile, the first true scientists who ascended over 52,000 feet said that the earth is flat with the edges upward/Ice Wall

World record photos have been taken exposing the LIE of a ball/globe earth.

When we do not believe God at His Word = Genesis 3:4-6 = we are immediately left to and subject to satan's alternative reality

Have you forgotten this = 1 John 5:19
We know that we are of God, and that the whole world is under the power of the evil one.

@GodsGrace, how much of the of the world did the Holy Spirit of Truth Say?

Every aspect of society, religion, politics, education, science, social media, TV, movies, INTERNET

 

[GodsGrace]

Have you refuted it once?

No.
It's obviously in a studio.
But we don't really know why.

This is from Gemini....

No, a flag wouldn't wave from wind on the Moon because it has virtually no atmosphere (no wind), but the Apollo flags appeared to wave due to their special design (a top horizontal rod to unfurl them) and the physics of motion in a vacuum, causing the fabric to ripple and sway longer than it would on Earth after astronauts planted them. The creases from being packed, combined with the lack of air resistance and low gravity, made them look like they were fluttering, creating a "frozen wave" effect.