How many former Catholics are here?

[David in NJ]

Hi David!
I'm not fully sure of the question but, all that comes to mind is the promise to Abraham that ALL nations will be blessed through him...?

You are on the RIGHT Track and very close but MORE is needed.

The Clue is in the the Title and the very end of the question???

i love trivia, treasure hunts, exploration and discovery.

SHALOM

 

[GodsGrace]

@amigo de christo @Marvelloustime @Debp @Nancy @Lizbeth

Trivia Truth Testimony

What did GOD have to do for Israel and for us Today = Before He called Moses to lead the People???

You will find the clue in the title and middle and the end of the question.

Every saint to give the correct answer, as it is written, wins an all Paid expansion of God's Mansion in your heart, mind and soul.

Hi David....
Jesus had to die.
This took place in the year 30 or so...
but it happened before time.

 

[David in NJ]

Hi David....
Jesus had to die.
This took place in the year 30 or so...
but it happened before time.

How did you come to the conclusion that Jesus died before time???

 

[GodsGrace]

Can you please give your testimony of being born again and leaving the Catholic Church? Thanks.

Hi Deb.
Nice thread.


I am also a former Catholic.

Why did I leave that church?
Because it had nothing for me.
It's better today, but the teachings are still a bit muddled.

However, I will protect the CC from all the nonsense that goes on in these forums...
all the lies that are told about it.

And, yes, it was the ORIGINAL church.
No other denomination around back then.

 

[GodsGrace]

How did you come to the conclusion that Jesus died before time???

1. God lives outside of time.
2. Even those living in the OT times were saved due to Jesus' sacrifice.
3. It's orthodox Christian theology.

Can't think of anything else right now.

 

[GodsGrace]

@David in NJ

And this:
Jesus is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 18:3

 

[David in NJ]

@David in NJ

And this:
Jesus is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Revelation 18:3

100% TRUTH

So, by that one verse you believe Jesus was a man before HE became a man???

 

[GodsGrace]

100% TRUTH

So, by that one verse you believe Jesus was a man before HE became a man???

No. Jesus was a man when He was born a human person.

But Jesus ALWAYS existed as the 2nd Person of the Trinity....

The Persons of the Trinity have no beginning...they always were.

PS Jesus was a MAN and GOD.
This is known as the hypostatic union.

 

[David in NJ]

No. Jesus was a man when He was born a human person.

But Jesus ALWAYS existed as the 2nd Person of the Trinity....

The Persons of the Trinity have no beginning...they always were.

PS Jesus was a MAN and GOD.
This is known as the hypostatic union.

No "PS" needed as i am Way ahead of you on this Truth.

 

[amigo de christo]

Hi David!
I'm not fully sure of the question but, all that comes to mind is the promise to Abraham that ALL nations will be blessed through him...?

lets finish this sentence so as there will be zero doubt at all that ITS dire necessary for one to Beleive on JESUS .
and in THY SEED shall all nations be blessed .
CHRIST JESUS . and oh yes one must beleive in HIM and if one rejects the testimony that GOD all MIGHTY
the CREATOR OF ALL gave about the SON
THEY call GOD A LIAR . A .....................LIAR .
and all liars will surely have their part in the lake of FIRE .
Be encouraged sister . I already KNOW you KNOW THIS . It is just i am gonna make it known
an d keep making it known . Because as you know
we gots folks heading right into a lie . And sheep gotta warn all to not enter into that convenant
that leadeth all who do enter into to THE SECOND death . aint no hope in that thing .

 

[BreadOfLife]

Because Oral Scriptura is the figment of Catholic and Jewish imaginations. I believe thou is Catholic, but yet to prove you are Christian. It is never likely or a slam dunk.

What is “Oral Scriptura”?? Certainly NOT a tenet of the Catholic Church . . .

That doesn’t even make sense. Scripture, by definition is that which is written down. How can you have “Oral” Scripture??

If you’re talking about Sacred Tradition – this isas binding on the believer as Scripture.
2 Thess 2:15
"Stand firm and hold fast to the Traditions you were taught, whether by an ORAL STATEMENT or by a letter from us."

2 Thess. 3:6
"Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is living in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us"

1 Cor. 11:2
"I commend you because you remember me in everything and maintain the traditions even as I have delivered them to you".

Luke 10:16
Whoever LISTENS to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."

Jesus and the Apostles lived by Oral Tradition . . .

Matt. 2:23 - the prophecy "He shall be a Nazarene" is ORAL TRADITION. It is not found in the Old Testament. This demonstrates that the apostles relied upon oral tradition and taught by oral tradition.

Matt 23:2 - Jesus relies on the ORAL TRADITION of acknowledging Moses' seat of authority (which passed from Moses to Joshua to the Sanhedrin). This is not recorded in the Old Testament.

1 Cor. 10:4 - Paul relies on the ORAL TRADITION of the rock following Moses. It is not recorded in the Old Testament. See Exod. 17:1-17 and Num. 20:2-13.

2 Timothy 3:8 - Paul relies on the ORAL TRADITION when speaking of Pharoah’s magicians, Jannes and Jambres. Their names are not recorded in the Old Testament.

Jude 9 - Jude relies on the ORAL TRADITION of the Archangel Michael's dispute with satan over Moses' body. This is not found in the Old Testament.

Jude 14-15 - Jude relies on the ORAL TRADITION of Enoch's prophecy which is not recorded in the Old Testament.

 

[GodsGrace]

Any other former Catholic have a testimony of coming to know Christ as their personal Savior?

As I mentioned before, I think some Catholics can be born again, if they truly are just trusting in Jesus for their salvation.

But if a person is new to the Christian faith, (why I made this topic), it's important to get into a good Bible-based church. Rather than learning a lot of unScriptural beliefs.

Deb,
You're doing what many do.
WHAT unscriptural beiefs are you referring to?

Also, should Protestants that are learning unscriptural beliefs ALSO leave their denomination?
And WHO is to determine which are false?

I attended a Nazarene church for about 10 years.
I hear they now have women pastors.
This is not biblical.

Do all denominations teach the same?
Why not?

This is a very complex issue and it's brought up every time someone makes a statement about
1. The CC not being Christian.
2. The CC is a cult.
3. Some in the CC may be saved. (as if we can determine who is and who isn't).

14 But you must continue in the things which you have learned and been assured of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15 and that from childhood you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

Every denomination I'm familiar with (3) teaches salvation in Jesus.
(this includes the Catholic Church).

16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
2 Timothy 3:14-17.

Agreed.

 

[BreadOfLife]

well the ONLY TRUE ROCK IS JESUS THE CHRIST .

That's NOT what the Bible says . . .

Abraham and Peter are also called the “Rock” . . .

Isaiah 51:1-2
“Listen to me, you who pursue righteousness and who seek the LORD: Look to the ROCK (tsoor-tsoor) from which you were cut and to the quarry from which you were hewn; look to Abraham, your father, and to Sarah, who gave you birth. When I called him he was only one man, and I blessed him and made him many.

Matt. 16:18
And so I say to you, you are Kepha (Rock), and upon this Kepha (Rock) I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.

 

[amigo de christo]

Deb,
You're doing what many do.
WHAT unscriptural beiefs are you referring to?

Also, should Protestants that are learning unscriptural beliefs ALSO leave their denomination?
And WHO is to determine which are false?

I attended a Nazarene church for about 10 years.
I hear they now have women pastors.
This is not biblical.

Do all denominations teach the same?
Why not?

This is a very complex issue and it's brought up every time someone makes a statement about
1. The CC not being Christian.
2. The CC is a cult.
3. Some in the CC may be saved. (as if we can determine who is and who isn't).



Every denomination I'm familiar with (3) teaches salvation in Jesus.
(this includes the Catholic Church).

Agreed.

Verily verily i say unto thee
That just because a man can lip the gospel do not mean that fellow follows or even knows Christ .
And i sure have noticed a lot of adding too and taking from that gospel they have on their walls
BUT DARN SURE NOT O N THEIR H EARTS .
The NAME of JESUS and the cliam one beleives
means NOTHING when the heart is far FROM HE W HO DID THE SAVING .
The prostestant realm has indeed become a very infected realm .
And its mother has long BEEN infected and has fed her c hildren deceptoin and delusion
since the day of her conception .

 

[David in NJ]

What is “Oral Scriptura”??

John 1:1 = In the beginning was the Word was with God and the Word was God.

Certainly NOT a tenet of the Catholic Church . . .

Which is why many Jews AND catholics AND protestants PERISH = Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge,
I also will reject you from being priest for Me;
Because you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children.

 

[MonoBiblical]

What is “Oral Scriptura”?? Certainly NOT a tenet of the Catholic Church . . .

Oral tradition is a tenet.

If you’re talking about Sacred Tradition – this isas binding on the believer as Scripture.

And the following scriptures do not support your argument. What a surprise.

Since it is an Almah in Isaiah 7:14, is it and oral tradition that Mary was a virgin or was it part the original LXX and Hebrew/Aramaic scriptures. I see much LXX material in the NT that doesn't exist anymore. Carest thou to explain oral tradition helps?

 

[David in NJ]

Oral tradition is a tenet.

And the following scriptures do not support your argument. What a surprise.

Much more then a tenet = John 1:1

 

[amigo de christo]

John 1:1 = In the beginning was the Word was with God and the Word was God.



Which is why many Jews AND catholics AND protestants PERISH = Hosea 4:6

My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge.
Because you have rejected knowledge,
I also will reject you from being priest for Me;
Because you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children.

Verily verily i type unto thee
Did you s ee what could come upon a man by two or three witnesses under the law . Death
Did you see what GOD did to his own peoples
when they turned wicked and rebellious and led many right into rebellion .
HOW MUCH WORSE a punshment is coming for those WHO TROD JESUS UNDER FOOT
for a lie of all lies that the well favored harlot CALLED LOVE and by her ecumenical cup of interfaith
interrelgious dialgoue PREACHED ANTI CHRIST Unto this world .

 

[MonoBiblical]

Much more then a tenet = John 1:1

I said oral tradition is a lame Catholic tenet. Every tradition is preserved through writing.

 

[David in NJ]

I said oral tradition is a lame Catholic tenet. Every tradition is preserved through writing.

ok - thank you

Did you see Post 175 which is God's POV = from His Holy Spirit = aka The Spirit of Truth