Flat Earth Theory

[David in NJ]

I don't understand why this is just people fighting with arguments and asking questions, but they do not really want an answer.

They are fighting because they are fighting against TRUTH

Satan knows this = "Believe the Truth and the Truth will set you FREE"

We are Forever FREE from condemnation as our sins are forgiven by faith in the Finished work of Christ on the Cross and His Resurrection.

This is only the beginning of our walk with God and satan knows this.

Satan's End Time Deception is the CGI wet ball earth spinning 1,000 mph and all that is attached to that LIE.

Imagine the POWER of the Saints worldwide should they all obey this commandment of JESUS = Matt 4:4

Satan knows this and therefore he has been unleashing every possible deception upon the world = 2 Thess 2:7-10

For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way.
And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of His mouth and annihilate by the majesty of His arrival.
The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them.

And thus the name calling, hatred and defense for UNBELIEF

SHALOM

 

[Psalm-147:3]

They are fighting because they are fighting against TRUTH

Satan knows this = "Believe the Truth and the Truth will set you FREE"

We are Forever FREE from condemnation as our sins are forgiven by faith in the Finished work of Christ on the Cross and His Resurrection.

This is only the beginning of our walk with God and satan knows this.

Satan's End Time Deception is the CGI wet ball earth spinning 1,000 mph and all that is attached to that LIE.

Imagine the POWER of the Saints worldwide should they all obey this commandment of JESUS = Matt 4:4

Satan knows this and therefore he has been unleashing every possible deception upon the world = 2 Thess 2:7-10

For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work, but the one who now restrains it will continue until he is taken out of the way.
And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will slay with the breath of His mouth and annihilate by the majesty of His arrival.
The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them.

And thus the name calling, hatred and defense for UNBELIEF

SHALOM

True. A fight for the truth. It is spiritual.

 

[David in NJ]

True. A fight for the truth. It is spiritual.

It has HUGE implications that most are unaware of.

 

[GodsGrace]

It has HUGE implications that most are unaware of.

What are they?

 

[ScottA]

I would suggest to change the name from flat earth theory to biblical cosmology.
I don't understand why this is just people fighting with arguments and asking questions, but they do not really want an answer. It seems that it's more about mocking the other side or wanting to be right, instead of truly and humbly wanting to know the truth and seeking the truth out in the Word and in prayer. Why is the world's deception used as arguments, or own reasoning, instead of seeking the truth in the Word and with God. Where is our heart?
We should ALL seek the Truth. And the truth about God's creation matters. God bless

Yes, and a fight of or for what one merely believes according to their own understanding of the scriptures, is against God. On that basis, many here should not be making the claims they do. God is not mocked.

 

[David in NJ]

What are they?

#1 - Believe the TRUTH and the Truth will set you FREE from being lied to!!!

Let these two passages of Scripture saturate your spirit, mind and heart = Romans 1:18-10 and 1 John 5:19

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.
For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.

We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

 

[GodsGrace]

#1 - Believe the TRUTH and the Truth will set you FREE from being lied to!!!

Let this two passages of Scripture saturate your spirit, mind and heart = Romans 1:18-10 and 1 John 5:19

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness.
For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.

We know that we are of God, and that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

But you said this:

"It has HUGE implications that most are unaware of."

How does my understanding of the earth being a globe...
have an effect on my relationship with God?

We know that the earth belongs to the Prince of darkness.
We know that science is not always right about everything and even has, yes, conspiracy theories.

I cannot make the connection between the above
and
what difference it makes if the earth is flat or a globe....

Although it sure does seem to be an interesting topic...
and I don't understand that either.

Also, I'd keep the "word of God" out of this.

Once it has been definitely proved that the earth is more than 6,000 years old...
those that believed that it was this young just have to accept the truth.

 

[David in NJ]

But you said this:

"It has HUGE implications that most are unaware of."

How does my understanding of the earth being a globe...
have an effect on my relationship with God?

We know that the earth belongs to the Prince of darkness.
We know that science is not always right about everything and even has, yes, conspiracy theories.

I cannot make the connection between the above
and
what difference it makes if the earth is flat or a globe....

Although it sure does seem to be an interesting topic...
and I don't understand that either.

Also, I'd keep the "word of God" out of this.

Once it has been definitely proved that the earth is more than 6,000 years old...
those that believed that it was this young just have to accept the truth.

Simple

When you or myself or anyone in whom the FATHER brings to Christ for Salvation, when we are Born-Again, do we suddenly know all TRUTH?

 

[GodsGrace]

Simple

When you or myself or anyone in whom the FATHER brings to Christ for Salvation, when we are Born-Again, do we suddenly know all TRUTH?

But what do you mean by THE TRUTH?

How am I set free if the earth is flat
but not set free if it's a globe?

 

[David in NJ]

But what do you mean by THE TRUTH?

#1 - It is not "what do i mean" but what God Says

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

What Stands Out with a Shout here?

 

[Psalm-147:3]

But what do you mean by THE TRUTH?

How am I set free if the earth is flat
but not set free if it's a globe?

For me, when God showed me the truth about it, it just made God's creation so much more beautiful. And so much made more sense, and its beautiful to spot these verses in the Bible that explain things we see in nature or around us. It is stunning. It does make free because if we still believe a lie, the enemy can have a hold on us in that area and then we are prone to more deception. The more we rely on God's Word, the more free we get, freed from all these lies in the world. Not needing them anymore. I believed them all. I mocked people believing otherwise. I mocked people believing in flat earth. Mocked people not believing in climate change, because it was also part of my studies. But now I know better. And I am thankful for that. God bless you

 

[Psalm-147:3]

The Bible does tell us about creation of the earth, and I certainly don't fault anyone for the flat earth interpretation of it. To me, it seems pretty clear the stars are in the firmament. And the firmament divided the waters.

So there's water among, or past the stars. Edit: or at least there was. Bible does tell us the Lord opened the floodgates. Not sure if all the water came down, or if there's still a bunch up there

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. [Genesis 7:11]

There is still water, we can tell by looking at the stars. God bless

 

[ScottA]

The Bible does tell us about creation of the earth, and I certainly don't fault anyone for the flat earth interpretation of it. To me, it seems pretty clear the stars are in the firmament. And the firmament divided the waters.

So there's water among, or past the stars. Edit: or at least there was. Bible does tell us the Lord opened the floodgates. Not sure if all the water came down, or if there's still a bunch up there

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. [Genesis 7:11]

The waters of this earth we know to be liquid, and that is what God flooded the earth with during Noah's time. But many passages of scripture define what God pours out upon all flesh--which rains down from His heaven, not as liquid, but as His spirit--if not simply what is "above" and what is "below" as not being the same, but different.

 

[rvmb]

You seem to assume that it's possible to see the whole sky from everywhere on a flat surface. But that's neither true when it comes to seeing things on the ground as in the sky. Due to perspective, you can only see as far as where the horizon meets. That's both the ground beneath you, and the sky above you. But since we are closer to the ground (literally upon it) than to the sky, we can see way more of the sky than of the ground at the point where the horizon meets. So that, right at the horizon that you see, the sky is farther away than the ground.

You can prove perspective most easily. Just look at the ceilings, ground and walls of where you sit right now at home. The farther they are from where you sit, the farther they merge. The ground seems to go up, the ceiling seems to go down, and if you imagine that into eternity, they would have to meet sometime. That's the horizon. So that, although there is further ceiling, and further ground beyond the point of the horizon, you are not able to see either one of them, because your actual perspective doesn't allow you to. The horizon is the end of both the ground and the ceiling, although the ground really goes into eternity, as does the ceiling. You are just not able to see it.

Explain why :-
Australia sees CRUX yet Canada can't.
Canada sees POLARIS yet Australia can't ?

 

[Chihuahua]

I don't decide the meaning of words, nor do you or Rudometkin. But if we are using words, and want to be understood, we better use words with commonly established meanings.

You are presenting quite the translucent dichotomy.

That means that we are using words in the same manner as they have been used historically. The evidence of that you find in dictionaries, Rudometkin quoted some. Anything else is deceptive and does not further truth and honest conversation. And here we are at a Christian platform.

Sometime faith is merely adjacent opaques dichotomies.

You applied a perfect dichotomy, all the while denying that you did.

If it was faked, then either this or that.

Since neither this or that, therefore it was not faked.

That is your argument. That's a form of dichotomy, in the two conclusions you gave on the supposition that it was faked.

So you either provide evidence for your at the moment mysterious meaning and definition of the word, and thereby clear the field for honest and rational conversation, or you must be accounted as deceptive, playing games with words. If you don't apply commonly accepted meanings of words in conversation with others, then there's no point of keeping up the conversation. We need common rules to communicate.

Your simple statement of all that being a joke doesn't help. No one gets the joke, since seemingly no one applies the same rules as you do when it comes to using language.

That's highly deceptive right now. So you either clear the field, or you can't be taken rationally and therefore seriously.

I do not find myself in a labyrinthine kerfuffle with your belligerent vicissitudes. Perhaps it is necessitated genitive renumerations for the magniloquent absconding?

 

[TLHKAJ]

Yes, and a fight of or for what one merely believes according to their own understanding of the scriptures, is against God. On that basis, many here should not be making the claims they do. God is not mocked.

We are not entitled to reinterpret what He said ....but simply to believe what He said.

 

[ScottA]

We are not entitled to reinterpret what He said ....but simply to believe what He said.

That is true. But the problem that has been showing itself here is that of interpretation based on ones own understanding.

 

[Prycejosh1987]

The bible says the world is round, Its called the circle of the earth, in Isaiah 40.22. Sphere didnt exist as a word from what i understand. But if the world was flat we would fall off the earth, if we keept heading forward, even with gravity.

 

[TLHKAJ]

But if the world was flat we would fall off the earth, if we keept heading forward, even with gravity

But you can totally walk on a sphere and be upside down without falling off? lol

The word for shere (ball) did exist. Check the posts in this thread. This has been discussed iver and over.

 

[rvmb]

But you can totally walk on a sphere and be upside down without falling off? lol

The word for shere (ball) did exist. Check the posts in this thread. This has been discussed iver and over.

""But you can totally walk on a sphere and be upside down without falling off? lol""
Yes, it's called internal GRAVITY, LOL :)
How does a FLAT EARTH explain why Australia does not see the North Star yet Canada does ? :)