crowns, no crowns, Revelation 17, Revelation 12, Revelation 13

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Revelation 17:3 (at the time of the first century) So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
  1. 7 heads, no crowns - fulfillment to be in the end times
  2. 10 horns, no crowns = fulfillment to be in the end times
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Revelation 12:3 (with 7 years to go) And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

7 heads, crowns - the little horn person has come to power (completing the Revelation 17:10 prophecy of 7 kings)
10 horns, no crowns - the person not yet become the beast-king
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Revelation 13:1 (with 42 months to go) And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

7 heads, no crowns - the little horn person will have been killed (the Revelation 17:10 prophecy of the 7 kings over)
10 horns, crowns - to rule with the beast king (king 8, Revelation 17:11)
 

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7 heads, no crowns - the little horn person will have been killed (the Revelation 17:10 prophecy of the 7 kings over)
10 horns, crowns - to rule with the beast king (king 8, Revelation 17:11)

Daniel's little horn does not exist in Rev.
 

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Daniel's little horn does not exist in Rev.
The vision about the little horn committing the transgression of desolation of Daniel 8:13 is at the time of the end Daniel 8:17. So yes, the little horn is in Revelation.

The little horn in his final stage will have become the beast king of Revelation 13 - who Jesus will cast into the lake of fire in Revelation 19:19.

Daniel 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand. [i.e. cast into the lake of fire]
 

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The vision about the little horn committing the transgression of desolation of Daniel 8:13 is at the time of the end Daniel 8:17. So yes, the little horn is in Revelation.

No, he isn't. In Daniel 7 the 4th beast ONE BEAST and the little horn is part of that beast while in Rev there are TWO BEASTS, no little horn coming within the ten horned beast. The books and descriptions do not match and there are other non-matching/conflicting things showing in no way should anyone try to merge details from Daniel into Rev.
 
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No, he isn't. In Daniel 7 the 4th beast ONE BEAST and the little horn is part of that beast while in Rev there are TWO BEASTS, no little horn coming within the ten horned beast. The books and descriptions do not match and there are other non-matching/conflicting things showing in no way should anyone try to merge details from Daniel into Rev.
Go back to my post #3 and read the Daniel 8:25 verse I quoted.
 

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Revelation 17:3 (at the time of the first century) So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
  1. 7 heads, no crowns - fulfillment to be in the end times
  2. 10 horns, no crowns = fulfillment to be in the end times
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Revelation 12:3 (with 7 years to go) And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

7 heads, crowns - the little horn person has come to power (completing the Revelation 17:10 prophecy of 7 kings)
10 horns, no crowns - the person not yet become the beast-king
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Revelation 13:1 (with 42 months to go) And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

7 heads, no crowns - the little horn person will have been killed (the Revelation 17:10 prophecy of the 7 kings over)
10 horns, crowns - to rule with the beast king (king 8, Revelation 17:11)
Douggg, Rev. 12 1-5 is an overview of a future Beast that will ONE DAY have those 7 Heads, but we know verses 1-5 is about Jesus' birth and death. It sets up all THE PLAYERS, 1.) Israel is the Woman, 2.) Satan is the Red Dragon 3.) The "Male" child is the proper translation, not man child (Jesus).

So, why tag him with 7 Heads with 10 horns and 7 Crowns? Because the real Prophesy is in verses 6-17, the first 5 verses are just setting up the players involved. Now for the actual meaning, a I have told you before many times.

Rev. 12 is about the Red Dragon or Satan, thus he has 7 Heads (7 = Divine Completion designed to drive Israel unto repentance) and 10 Horns (10 = Completion, and the E.U.is the Fourth Beast revived in completion as any map will show AFTER the E.U. Conquers Israel and THE MANY in Dan. 11:40-43 SEE BELOW). So, he has no crowns over the 10, because the AC is over the 10, this the 7th Head and thus he has Crowns on the 7th Head. The 7 Crowns just means Satan is over every Kingdom God allowed to come against Israel, but you could add thousands of crowns, he over the USA, Brazil, NYC, LA, et al, but we are only being told about these SELECT SEVEN that Conquers Israel.

In Rev. 13 we are told this Beast has 7 Heads and 10 Horns with the CROWNS being on the 10 Horns or the Complete E.U. (10) and thus this the Little Horn/AC/Beast he is over the E.U. and conquers Israel and THE MANY as seen below.

In Rev. 17 the Beast is a Scarlet Colored Beast NOT the Red Dragon, it is Apollyon, who has been in the bottomless pit for nigh 2000 years now. Thus he has NO CROWNS on the 7 Heads nor he 10 Horns, because he can not be over the E.U. (he is not human) nor came he be over Satan on this earth. this earth is Satan's Kingdom. BUT.......he is the King of the Bottomless Pit, making him an 8th King, who is of the 7. Satan placed him over this region, but of course he is not higher than Satan so he has NO CROWNS.
 

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In Rev. 13 we are told this Beast has 7 Heads and 10 Horns with the CROWNS being on the 10 Horns or the Complete E.U. (10) and thus this the Little Horn/AC/Beast he is over the E.U. and conquers Israel and THE MANY as seen below.
Hi Ronald,

The ten horns (ten kings) have crowns in Revelation 13:1 because they will rule with the beast for one hour (42 months). The 42 months of Revelation 13:5.

Revelation 17:
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

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17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

The beast person will become dictator of the EU (the kingdom of ten kings).
 

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Hi Ronald,

The ten horns (ten kings) have crowns in Revelation 13:1 because they will rule with the beast for one hour (42 months). The 42 months of Revelation 13:5.

Revelation 17:
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
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17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

The beast person will become dictator of the EU (the kingdom of ten kings).
Yes, the Scarlet Colored Beast is released at the 1260 also, he is Apollyon, he thus has NO CROWNS, its simple stuff you guys make complex, the Red Dragon is not the Scarlet Colored Beast, he is released from the bottomless pit he is a part of the 7 Headed 10 Horned Beast (OF COURSE, he's 2nd in command) but he has NO CROWNS because he is under Satan as is the AC/Little Horn, so then why does he have CROWNS on Rev. 13? Because he is a HUMAN BEING and can have Flesh Kingdoms on this earth, but any entity is the Spirit world can not be over Satan on THIS EARTH, period.
 

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Yes, the Scarlet Colored Beast is released at the 1260 also, he is Apollyon, he thus has NO CROWNS
Ronald,

Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

In Revelation 12:3, the beast is the great red dragon (Revelation 12:9 informs that the great dragon is Satan).

The heads and horns on the great red dragon are human kings. 7 kings of Revelation 17:10. And 10 kings of Revelation 17:12.

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I would not try to integrate Apollyon as being the scarlet colored beast (of Revelation 17) nor as being the red dragon (of Revelation 12).

Both the scarlet colored beast (Revelation 17) and the red dragon (Revelation 12) are referrals to Satan.

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Revelation 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

The beast in Revelation 13:1 (also having 7 heads and 10 horns) is not a referred to Satan because Revelation 13 is with 42 months left in the seven years. And Satan will have been cast down to earth for that time frame (that follows the 1260 days of Revelation 12:6).

The beast in Revelation 13:1 is the kingdom of the beast person. The beast person himself is the mortally wounded but healed head (one of the 7 head kings) in Revelation 13:3-5.
 

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In what manner ?

Revelation 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

This is a copy of Christs return on a white horse, with a crown.


Revelation 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Revelation 19:12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

What is found in Rev 6:2 is not an exact copy of the real second coming seen above, but close enough to trick people into thinking he is christ. Too many parallels to deny what satan is trying to do and who he means to impersonate.


1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

anti can mean "instead of" or an "impersonator of"

In Revelation the term antichrist or even false christ is not used, but the term false prophet is used.

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5578 pseudoprophetes {psyoo-dop-rof-ay'-tace}

from 5571 and 4396; TDNT - 6:781,952; n m

AV - false prophet 11; 11

1) one who, acting the part of a divinely inspired prophet, utters
falsehoods under the name of divine prophecies
2) a false prophet


This is because Christ was a prophet, so satan will impersonate Christ as a false prophet, a false lamb, a false king, a false god...and on and on...all these things are done through the role of AC.



Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.


Since Christ is known as the Lamb of God, for this beast to also be described in lamb-esque terms mirrors Christ.




Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


Many types will come saying they are Christ, so too will the fulfillment of the types, the false prophet beast himself.



Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
Isaiah 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Isaiah 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
Isaiah 14:16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;


"I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north"

This is a reference to Gods throne.

"I will be like the most High"

I believe Lucifer is satan and that the antichrist is either satan in disguise, or a person satan possesses.


2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

"shewing himself that he is God"

Christ is God, so to impersonate Christ in the tribulation is to show yourself as "God"




Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!



01966 heylel {hay-lale'}

from 01984 (in the sense of brightness); TWOT - 499a; n m

AV - Lucifer 1; 1

Lucifer = "light-bearer"
1) shining one, morning star, Lucifer
1a) of the king of Babylon and Satan (fig.)
2) (TWOT) 'Helel' describing the king of Babylon


satan used to be the "son of the morning" which is the "morning star"...now Christ has taken that title from him:

Revelation 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.


"the bright and morning star"




1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

take note that he says antichrist singular shall come, denoting the end times...but that as a type there are antichrists even at that time...but until they see the AC it isnt the end times yet.

what he is saying is this, "the AC shall come, and thats how we will know its the end times" and then as a side comment he mentions that there are many types of the AC already but only the appearance of the one true AC denotes the end part of the endtimes.




John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist
shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the
last time.

antichrist
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500 antichristos {an-tee'-khris-tos}

from 473 and 5547; TDNT - 9:493,1322; n m

AV - antichrist 5; 5

1) the adversary of the Messiah


anti
473

473 anti {an-tee'}

a primary particle; TDNT - 1:372,61; prep

AV - for 15, because + 3639 4, for ... cause 1, therefore + 3639 1,
in the room of 1; 22

1) over against, opposite to, before
2) for, instead of, in place of (something)
2a) instead of
2b) for
2c) for that, because
2d) wherefore, for this cause

clearly, the word can mean both....and surely by impersonating/taking the place of
Christ would therefore make this person an adversary of Christ at the same time.

As we learned from daniel and Paul, by claiming to be God/Christ satan will in fact
be not only exalting himself ABOVE God but will also be opposing the true God.

Matthew 2:22 But when he heard that Archelaus did reign in Judaea IN THE
ROOM OF his father Herod, he was afraid to go thither: notwithstanding, being
warned of God in a dream, he turned aside into the parts of Galilee:

Note that the "in the room of" is the word "anti" in the greek, and from sentence
context we know that Archelaus actually was not herods adversary, but that he was ruling
in his place, "instead of" his father.

The antichrist will do no differently except he takes the throne improperly and will
only rule for that hour and then be cast into the pit for his crimes, and eventually
be destroyed.


1 Peter 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Here we have "like figure" which is anti-tupos in the Greek. This anti is the same word in Antichrist yet in this verse the anti-tupos means a "like" or similar thing.






2 Thessalonians 2:4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called
God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God,
shewing himself that he is God.

Christ is God, so to sit in the temple and claim to be God is the same difference as
saying one is Christ.

Revelation 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he
had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Its no coincidence that the antichrist appears as a lamb, which is symbolism for
Christ. Satan is the false lamb, the false Christ, the anti/in stead of copy cat.


Revelation 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a
bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to
conquer.



Here is another account of his appearance, again copying Christ. I surely hope no
one thinks this is actually the true Christ returning. If so, you can check out the
word "bow" here and learn its a poor imitation of the real thing.



5115
toxon
tox'-on
From the base of G5088; a bow (apparently as the simplest fabric): - bow.



Christ’s return as the true lamb is spoken of in the 6th seal making this first seal
someone other than Christ.

so clearly, this Ac does indeed copy Christ and wish to take his place and he
always has.




1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1 John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.



This passage makes it clear that whosoever denies that Jesus is the Christ is antichrist.



As well as outright denying, there is the lack of confessing which is also the spirit of Antichrist:




1 John 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.






2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.



And more of the same.



Do not think the only way to be an Antichrist is to deny or not confess Christ. There are other definitions such as imitating Christ which is also being an or The Antichrist which is essentially equal to deny Christ because you are wanting or claiming to be Christ so that is to deny the true Christ.
 

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"anti" can mean "against", "instead of" ; but not "impersonator of".

Wrong. It can mean an imposter as that is directly related to "instead of" as in INSTEAD of Jesus, people will flock to a FALSE JESUS and take part in the GREAT DEPARTURE (apostasy)
 

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Revelation 17:3 (at the time of the first century) So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
  1. 7 heads, no crowns - fulfillment to be in the end times
  2. 10 horns, no crowns = fulfillment to be in the end times

I agree with the above.

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Revelation 12:3 (with 7 years to go) And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

I disagree. Revelation 12:5-12 state very clearly when the dragon was cast out - and there is not repeat suggested or implied anywhere in Revelation 12:5-17

7 heads, crowns - the little horn person has come to power (completing the Revelation 17:10 prophecy of 7 kings)
10 horns, no crowns - the person not yet become the beast-king
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I think maybe your belief in the fallacy of a seven-year tribulation has you confused.

Revelation 13:1 (with 42 months to go) And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

Same 10 kings mentioned in Revelation 17.

7 heads, no crowns - the little horn person will have been killed (the Revelation 17:10 prophecy of the 7 kings over)
10 horns, crowns - to rule with the beast king (king 8, Revelation 17:11)

It's the Revelation of Jesus Christ that God gave Him to reveal to His churches and He signified by His angel to John - so we should look at the symbols God used in His own Revelation.
 
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seven heads and ten horns
crowns, no crowns,
6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

6:17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

6:18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

6:19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

6:20 My son, keep thy father's commandment, and forsake not the law of thy mother:

The Ten Commandments.
 

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@Douggg I know it's not your attitude to believe that it's your Revelation. Nor do I believe you seek to TELL anyone what any part of it means. I'm just leaving this here for you and others to bear in mind:

It's not the Revelation of anyone who seeks to TELL YOU what any part of it means. It's the Revelation of Jesus Christ that God gave Him to reveal to His churches and He signified by His angel to John (Revelation 1:1) - so we should look at the symbols God used in His own Revelation.

I would caution all Christians to diligently ask God for understanding regarding HIS wisdom in giving us the symbols of these things in the Revelation (summarized below):

The two types of crown in the Revelation
and
the color of the horses in the first two seals

"In a circle around the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on those thrones were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white clothing and had golden stéphanos (crowns) on their heads." (Revelation 4:4).

COLORS AND CROWNS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

The Greek word used for the color of the red horse [G4450 purrhos] of the second seal in Revelation 6:4 is the same as the word used for the color of the red dragon in Revelation 12:3 - the only two verses in the entire New Testament which use that particular word to describe that color.

When it comes to the color white in the Revelation, we find the following:-

Jesus' head and hair appear white like wool (Rev 1:14).
A white stone with a saint's name written on it (Rev 2:17).
The white raiment of the saints (Rev.3:5 & 18; 6:11; 7:9, 13 & 14).
The white clothing of the 24 elders (Rev 4:4).
The white clothing of angels (Rev 15:6).
The white raiment of the bride of Christ (Rev 19:8).
The Great White Throne (Rev 20:11).
Christ seated on a white cloud (Rev 14:14).
Christ returns on a white horse, leading His armies (Rev 19:11 & 14).
Christ's armies are riding white horses (Rev 19:14).

So far, the color white never represents anything evil or impure in the Revelation.

The first horseman of the first seal in the Apocalypse is also riding a white horse (Revelation 6:2).

TYPES OF CROWNS IN THE NEW TESTAMENT

Also, the horseman of the first seal who is riding a white horse is given a stéphanos (crown).

The two types of crowns mentioned in the New Testament are:

(a) stéphanos (crown) [Strongs Greek Dictionary] 04735 στέφανος stéphanos
from an apparently primary στέφω stéphō, (to twine or wreathe).

(b) diádēma (crown) [StrongsGreek Dictionary] 01238 διάδημα diádēma
from a compound of 1223 and 1210; a "diadem" (as bound about the head):--crown.

Strong's Greek Dictionary defines the stéphanos as: A chaplet (as a badge of royalty, a prize in the public games or a symbol of honor generally; but more conspicuous and elaborate than the simple fillet, 1238), literally or figuratively:--crown.

The Wikipedia article about the diadem as a crown states that "The head regalia worn by Roman emperors, from the time of Diocletian onwards, is described as a diadem in the original sources.

THIS IS WHAT THE NEW TESTAMENT ASSOCIATES WITH A stéphanos,
AND WHAT IT ASSOCIATES WITH A diádēma:-

(i) Stéphanos (a received crown)

1. WORN BY THE SAINTS (I Corinthians 9:25; Philippians 4:1; I Thessalonians 2:19; II Timothy 4:8; James 1:12; I Peter 5:4; Revelation 2:10; Revelation 3:11).

2. WORN BY THE 24 ELDERS (Revelation 4:4).

3. WORN BY THE WOMAN WHO GAVE BIRTH TO THE MESSIAH (Revelation 12:1).

4. "STEPHANOS" (CROWN) MADE OF THORNS PLACED ON CHRIST'S HEAD WHEN HE HAD BEEN ARRESTED - IN ORDER TO MOCK HIM (Matthew 27:29, parallel Mark 15:17 and John 19:2 & 5).

5. WORN BY JESUS WHEN HE COMES ON A WHITE CLOUD TO GATHER HIS HARVEST (Revelation of John 14:14).

Consistently so far, a stephanos (crown) is something that is an honor to wear, and those who wear it are considered honorable.

Revelation 6:2 - the first horseman of the first seal:


"And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a stephanos (crown) was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."

6. WORN BY NOT HONORABLE CREATURES: "AS IT WERE" STEPHANOS (CROWNS) SEEN ON THE HEADS OF THE LOCUSTS OF THE FIFTH TRUMPET, WHO CAME OUT OF THE BOTTOMLESS PIT:

Revelation of John 9:7:
"And the shapes of the locusts were like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads were as it were stéphanos (crowns) like gold, and their faces were as the faces of men."

(ii) Diádēma crown (kingship)

John saw many diádēma (crowns) on the head of Christ in Revelation 19:12; and "He has on His garment, and on His thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS" in Revelation 19:16. *

* Only Jesus is spoken of as wearing both types of crown in the Revelation: a stephanos in Revelation 14:14; and many diadema in Revelation 19:16.

Otherwise only the dragon's heads and the beast's 10 kings are wearing diadema (crowns) in the Revelation (Revelation 12:3 & Revelation 13:1).

THE FIRST HORSEMAN OF THE FIRST SEAL OF THE REVELATION IS WEARING A stephanos, not a diadema:

"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a stephanos (crown) was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." (Revelation 6:1-2).

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Question: Given the metaphor used, do you believe that the first horse of the first seal suggests or implies an "Antichrist spirit"?

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Did you notice that no arrows are mentioned with his bow? Then how does he conquer? The Revelation does not tell us how he conquers, but one possible answer is the following:

"Then he answered and spoke to me, saying, This is the word of the LORD to Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the LORD of hosts." (Zechariah 4:6) .

"And I will give power to My two witnesses, and they will prophesy a thousand, two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth." (Revelation 11:3).

"And when they complete their testimony, the beast coming up out of the abyss will make war against [My two witnesses] and will overcome them and kill them." (Rev.11:7).

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THE SECOND SEAL: A RED HORSE AND NO CROWN

In contrast to the first one, the second horseman is riding a red (Greek: pyrrhós) horse (which is the exact same color of the dragon in Revelation 12:3).

These two verses (Revelation 6:4: The red horse of the second seal, and Revelation 12:3: The red dragon) are the only two verses in the entire New Testament where the word pyrrhós is used.

The rider on the red horse is given a great sword and "power was given to him sitting on it, to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another" (Revelation 6:4) *

* Revelation 13:2 tells us that the red dragon of Revelation 12:3 will give the beast his seat, his power, and great authority.

The rider of the red horse is not given a crown. Nor a bow. He is given a "sword" (it's a metaphorical sword) and he uses it to take peace from the earth and to cause people to kill one another.

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Question: Given the metaphor used, do you believe that the rider of a horse that's the same color as the dragon of the Revelation, who is given "a great sword" and "goes out taking peace from the earth and causing people to kill one another" speaks of an Antichrist spirit, or perhaps of a 'beast' controlled by a dragon?

Why then do so many Bible teaches and Revelation commentators assert that the first horseman seen in the first seal represents someone who is commonly called "the Antichrist"?

I've only asked questions in this post regarding the first horseman of the first seal and the second horseman and the possible meaning of the symbolism God gave us - because it's not the Revelation of anyone who seeks to TELL YOU what any part of it means. It's the Revelation of Jesus Christ that God gave Him to reveal to His churches - and He signified by His angel to John - so we should look at the symbols God used in His own Revelation.

I would caution all Christians to diligently ask God for understanding regarding HIS wisdom in giving us the symbols of these things in the Revelation, and why He would have given them, before you decide to believe the rider of the white horse of the first seal is an an antichrist or impostor - because this is the symbolism God gave - and God does not use His symbolism to trick the saints into believing it's referring to something it's not referring to - but the saints can be tricked into believing that the first seal is referring to an impostor or and antichrist - but God would not be the one tricking them.

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"Crown" in this context signifies country/ruler of a country. Jesus has many crowns (Revelation 19:12) since he is Creator, ruler of everything.

"Seven heads" (Revelation 12:3) = seven demonic kings ruling the Middle East (since the demonic beast is the seventh and eighth king, Revelation 17:11). These kingdoms are as follows:
1. Egypt
2. Assyria
3. Babylon
4. Media-Persia
5. Greece
6. Rome
7. Beast
8. Beast
 
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A quick review of who the 7 heads and ten horns are....

7 heads - 7 kings of the Roman Empire. 6 are historic. 1 is yet to come.... the end times little horn person

10 horns - ten end times leaders of the EU, who will give their kingdom (the EU) to the beast person to be dictator for 42 months..

Romans Empire in the end times = the EU.

See my chart in my next post #20.
 
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