Yet on a 'FLAT' earth, Canada sees the North Star yet Australia never does ?
How does that work ? :)
Flat Earth Theory
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How does that work ? :)
David in NJ
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You were given the evidence as to why that is.
Abandon the teachings/science of Creation from the men who serve the god of this world/Age = Romans 1:18-20
Believe GOD's Creation = WATER
Chihuahua
Member
Careful - one can believe every word which is not the same as subscribing to twisted theories by abusing scripture. Scripture says to curse God and die (Job 2:9). That would be a gross abuse of something far far out of context.
And there is no reason for it. There are three types. You have people who are trolling and laugh at how gullible people are. There exists those that treat it as a fun thought experiment. Finally, you have people who believe it seeing it as special knowledge. They will quote scripture pertaining to wisdom and such.
Yet, if there was going to be a massive conspiracy, what is the point?
Chihuahua
Member
There is God's truth and then there are trolls on the internet laughing at you.
ScottA
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David in NJ
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For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
— Romans 8:38-39
A ball earth explains why :-
Canada sees the North Star yet Australia doesn't
Cape Horn has 17 hours daylight today yet Murmansk only 2
Chihuahua
Member
Alright - so at what point are we unable to go higher? Does it depend on the amount of force? Is there a magical force? How are we returned to the ground if we jump?
Chihuahua
Member
I am not sure why you are agreeing with me while writing as if you disagree with me.
David in NJ
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Distance explains why = just as the factual science was given to you by another member.
SHALOM my brother in CHRIST for there is nothing hidden that will not be revealed.
Rejoice in that it is His Creation which was created for His Glory.
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People say "But we can make predictions with the globe earth model".
Some of these same people are the ones who say things like "the moon's crescent is from the shadow of the earth", and then they laugh at you for suggesting otherwise, until you show them that even NASA disagrees with them - like what happened with HealthyShape earlier in this thread. Point is, it is not the regular people who are making predictions so much, because most don't know what they heck they are looking at - it is the so called 'specialists'.
But if they are lying to us about the globe earth, and if they know instead it is flat, then they could be making their predictions based on the flat earth model.
So, what you say: "Look, they say it is a globe, and they make accurate predictions that we verify when we look in the sky".
What they might be doing: "We know the earth is flat, and we have studied the true system enough to make predictions on the cycle. We will tell them the predictions, and we will tell them it's a globe".
So the "look, they make predictions" argument does not go far.
Some of these same people are the ones who say things like "the moon's crescent is from the shadow of the earth", and then they laugh at you for suggesting otherwise, until you show them that even NASA disagrees with them - like what happened with HealthyShape earlier in this thread. Point is, it is not the regular people who are making predictions so much, because most don't know what they heck they are looking at - it is the so called 'specialists'.
But if they are lying to us about the globe earth, and if they know instead it is flat, then they could be making their predictions based on the flat earth model.
So, what you say: "Look, they say it is a globe, and they make accurate predictions that we verify when we look in the sky".
What they might be doing: "We know the earth is flat, and we have studied the true system enough to make predictions on the cycle. We will tell them the predictions, and we will tell them it's a globe".
So the "look, they make predictions" argument does not go far.
ScottA
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Many trust in their own understanding, and believe in their own interpretations. Not realizing the parables were given as examples of how the words of God are written and how they are to be understood, and forgetting that as such, Jesus even had to explain those parables to the apostles--and those were just simple examples.
And here we have an example of why He gave those simple examples. Many, apparently, missed the full lesson and purpose of His teachings regarding parables. Unfortunately.
David in NJ
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GOD created a Dome over the Earth = we are in a CLOSED System here on earth =
No one gets out except thru Death, when our spirits ascend to the FATHER = only if we are SAVED
Those who are not Saved remain trapped in darkness.
The air cannot support our weight so we, by natural means, fall to the ground = gravity not needed.
No one can escape = GOD's Design = Until we go Home to our Creator and Savior, the LORD Jesus Christ
Grailhunter
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You said....Supposing the Earth is flat, just a flat plain not in motion. What force pulls me back to the surface when I jump?
I thought that you were asking a question about gravity.....So I responded.
I love FLAT earthers, they always make me smile with their no sense nonsense.
Some even believe the earth is a FLAT SQUARE :)
Rev 7:1 I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth,
Grailhunter
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LOL God bless their hearts.
If God came and tried to explain the exact reality of everything now, it would be beyond science and our understanding.
Much less back then.
The storyline fits into the perceptions of the biblical time period.
David in NJ
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#1 - you are mocking GOD = very bad
#2 - Wisdom = If the earth were a globe there would be EIGHT angels
#3 - trusting satanists to teach you about GOD's Creation = God Says: BAD choice of direction
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γέγραπται (gegraptai)
Verb - Perfect Indicative Middle or Passive - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 1125: A primary verb; to 'grave', especially to write; figuratively, to describe.
“I will destroy
Ἀπολῶ (Apolō)
Verb - Future Indicative Active - 1st Person Singular
Strong's Greek 622: From apo and the base of olethros; to destroy fully, literally or figuratively.
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τὴν (tēn)
Article - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.
wisdom
σοφίαν (sophian)
Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 4678: Wisdom, insight, skill (human or divine), intelligence. From sophos; wisdom.
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τῶν (tōn)
Article - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.
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Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 4680: Wise, learned, cultivated, skilled, clever. Akin to saphes; wise.
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Article - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.
intelligence
σύνεσιν (synesin)
Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 4907: From suniemi; a mental putting together, i.e. Intelligence or the intellect.
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Article - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.
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Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
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Verb - Future Indicative Active - 1st Person Singular
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ScottA
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That is a good point. Revelation from God is "here a little there a little" over the course of history leading up to the end and all truth.
What I find fascinating, is that there are words in scripture that can be interpreted as describing either a flat or global earth. It's like a trap, intentional by God. Which most things actually are, certainly in scripture. Which He clarifies saying "I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live." Which Jesus likewise did with regard to how He would build His Church not by flesh and blood, but by what proceeds from His Father in spirit. In other words, we all have a choice of what to believe, and some of it means life or death. Not necessarily this topic, but as a general rule and practice regarding how we live and make decisions especially regarding His word.
The error that is most common, is to trust our own understanding and interpretation...and then also conveniently disregard or ignore or downplay any passages that more likely lean the other way. Which is a big problem right here, right now. Unfortunately--because, yes, God has established His word to as much as cause the friction, intentionally, for a reason.
Chihuahua
Member
Alright, how high above sea level is the dome? Where are the satellites that provide access to TV, phones, the internet?
What does the dome do? If it is a closed system, why are we hit with meteors? If you watch you can see meteors quite easily. Why is the Earth affected by solar activities? Why are there auroras in which charged solar particles interact with gases in the atmosphere to produce breathtaking views of the sky?
How is gravity not needed? What force is compelling any given object towards the surface of the Earth?
A force is pulling upon any given object near the Earth, if there is less density it will find equilibrium at a greater height. Where the surrounding environment has a greater density, like water, lighter objects will float upon the surface. This is because gravity is pulling on the water which is denser than air.
In the absence of planetary gravity, the density of things becomes irrelevant, as nothing is pulling upon it. Objects will attract each other on a very minor scale, but not with the same force as a planet. This can be demonstrated on a plane at zero gravity or space stations where the pull of gravity is less.
One can escape the gravity of the Earth which is called escape velocity.
David in NJ
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No one is trying to escape gravity.
Gravity does not exist = it is the satanists must have, for their global LIE
Rockets are made to propel the WEIGHT of the object = thrust
