Flat Earth Theory

[Psalm-147:3]

Here is a drawing of how the Bible describes the earth, it can also be found in many old Bibles

 

[Chihuahua]

You call God's creation imperfect, just because you do not understand certain things. The way God made everything is just a perfect calendar. And our lack of understanding doesn't take away from His perfect creation

If things were perfect, or absolutes, the moon would revolve around the Earth in 28.000000 days, 13 times, for a total of the 364 days the Earth should need to orbit the Sun.
Venus would not be drunk and on drugs. One day on Venus is longer than a year. Uranus has lost its mind. It has completely fallen on its side like a teenager illegally in a dive bar.

 

[Chihuahua]

Here is a drawing of how the Bible describes the earth, it can also be found in many old Bibles.

How a person, in the absence of basic science, depicted the Earth?

 

[Chihuahua]

If scripture states that the Earth is flat, all you need to do is point that out and explain what force pulls us towards the flat Earth.

 

[Chihuahua]

The true scientists, aviationists, and such forth who know, must keep quiet or they are blacklisted and slandered to destroy any credibility of that which they know = as well as loss of employment = permanently in their fields.

How far up can a pilot go? I am guessing it is based on sea level or does it pertain to the distance from land to some magical point in the sky with rainbow unicorns?
Why is the atmosphere thinner as you go higher above the sea level? Those climbing Mt. Everest generally bring oxygen. Why do you need to bake a cake differently at high altitudes?

 

[Chihuahua]

As for NASA, it is more and more obvious that you are as much as obsessed with their works, even blindly so. Which explains a lot. But truthfully, believing NASA--if their actions are ever fully known--simply, potentially makes one a victim, even innocent, as a child is innocent that believes people who's actions should be good when they are not.

In you words, you have disproven all of NASA and other space agencies. We are all victims of NASA deceiving us into something so evil, it serves absolutely no purpose. It is one thing to make up a virus like COVID and force everyone to get a vaccine which is nothing more than a mind control substance brought to us by our alien overlords, but it is another thing to find ourselves convinced by the true test - deception without purpose.

 

[Lizbeth]

Makes me wonder if our beloved flat-earthers think (feel) the Bible is in error if they embrace a round earth.

I can imagine that.

And there isn't even any teaching about the shape of the earth in scripture that I have ever seen. People seem to be extrapolating their own conclusions from isolated scriptures, which they are taking too literally. For example, is God literally "sitting" on the earth somewhere? ;) That is just a way of describing rest....the earth is His footstool....denoting rest. He created this world, He "framed" it all and set everything in motion, and then sat down and put His feet up, so to speak...rested. Like where Jesus said the farmer plants his field and then goes to sleep at night (rests) and the crop grows up of itself until the harvest, he knoweth not how.

The Lord does use "natural" and "scientific" means that make sense....He is the inventor and creator of those means and to Him be the glory. Do any of us take umbrage with the natural processes that form a baby in the womb? Yet how miraculous and wonderful! But generally we tend to take most "natural" things for granted and don't see how miraculous they all are. Discovering and explaining how things work in the natural world doesn't take the glory away from God - it should do the opposite for those who believe in Him! All power belongs to Him....which includes natural forces. The awesomely powerful natural forces that slowly squashed entire mountain ranges together like an accordion over many many years, depict the mighty power of God! (saw it from up in an airplane) Eons and eons of time are as nothing compared to Him, for He is infinite. None of these things contradict scripture, they affirm them and speak to the unutterable greatness of the Lord:

Psa 90:4
For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. (this is exalting the Lord)

Just that science is limited to the natural realm....it can't observe and measure spiritual things. Things of the Spirit are like the wind, you can only see the effects of it, but you can't see where it has come from or where it is going. Or like medicine can only observe and treat certain symptoms of a disease, but can't see the spirit of infirmity that may be behind it.

 

[Lizbeth]

@Psalm-147:3 (won;t let me quote your posts for some reason)

Can't see it too clearly, but are you highlighting a footnote there? Footnotes are not God's word, they are not scripture. And neither is the diagram you posted...that is a fallible human being's depiction of their own (literal) interpretation of scripture....it is not holy scripture.

Here is what the bible says about a dome over the earth:

Amo 9:6

The One who builds His upper chambers in the heavens

And has founded His vaulted dome over the earth,

He who calls for the waters of the sea

And pours them out on the face of the earth,

The LORD is His name.

Science calls this dome the "atmosphere"....which is where evaporated waters of the sea condense and pours out as rain. So far science is not contradicting that scripture. but affirming it. And just want to point out that if the earth is spherical in shape the atmosphere is confined within a dome from anywhere you are on the earth (not a literal glass dome, but simply the outer limits of the atmosphere). So no contradiction with that either, but affirmation. It is just flowery descriptive language of a natural reality. Does God have a literal chamber somewhere out in literal space? Again, this is only a poetic description, and in that specific verse is descriptive of a spiritual/heavenly reality, not a natural reality.

 

[amigo de christo]

Where does Scripture states that "Earth is flat" ?

Here is where scripture gives us the best view of how earth appears . Now watch this real closely my friend .
IT is HE who sits upon the CIRCLE of the earth . Circle equals round .
Now as far as all this other stuff flat earth verses this or that , dont you find that all
just a waste of focus . i mean i am sure some beleive it to be flat. Seeing
i cannot see it for myself from above , all i can do is just do as with the knowledge given in scripture .
I KNOW its round . Many make an honest mistake
by thinking when the phrase from the four corners of the earth , means it was flat .
honestly this was a phrase in english
to simply mean from east , west , south , north . When a threat was made
That it will come against you from the four corners of the earth ,
that simply meant its coming at you from all directions and there is no escape . that is an english phrase .
However i can understand why some would think it was flat due to the language .
But i would then invite them to read ISSIAH . which clearly states its a circle . iT is round .

 

[David in NJ]

How far up can a pilot go? I am guessing it is based on sea level or does it pertain to the distance from land to some magical point in the sky with rainbow unicorns?
Why is the atmosphere thinner as you go higher above the sea level? Those climbing Mt. Everest generally bring oxygen. Why do you need to bake a cake differently at high altitudes?

it is based on sea level
sea level
sea level = PRAY that you may SEE level from the Word that was GOD

 

[David in NJ]

Makes me wonder if our beloved flat-earthers think (feel) the Bible is in error if they embrace a round earth.

I can imagine that.

Your Bible is flat = RIGHT, there proves flat earth

just kidding with you for a first of the day - lol

Return to SERIOUS Truth = WATER = SEE SEA Level

 

[Marvelloustime]

Here is where scripture gives us the best view of how earth appears . Now watch this real closely my friend .
IT is HE who sits upon the CIRCLE of the earth . Circle equals round .
Now as far as all this other stuff flat earth verses this or that , dont you find that all
just a waste of focus . i mean i am sure some beleive it to be flat. Seeing
i cannot see it for myself from above , all i can do is just do as with the knowledge given in scripture .
I KNOW its round . Many make an honest mistake
by thinking when the phrase from the four corners of the earth , means it was flat .
honestly this was a phrase in english
to simply mean from east , west , south , north . When a threat was made
That it will come against you from the four corners of the earth ,
that simply meant its coming at you from all directions and there is no escape . that is an english phrase .
However i can understand why some would think it was flat due to the language .
But i would then invite them to read ISSIAH . which clearly states its a circle . iT is round .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Here is where scripture gives us the best view of how earth appears . Now watch this real closely my friend .
IT is HE who sits upon the CIRCLE of the earth . Circle equals round .
Now as far as all this other stuff flat earth verses this or that , dont you find that all
just a waste of focus . i mean i am sure some beleive it to be flat. Seeing
i cannot see it for myself from above , all i can do is just do as with the knowledge given in scripture .
I KNOW its round . Many make an honest mistake
by thinking when the phrase from the four corners of the earth , means it was flat .
honestly this was a phrase in english
to simply mean from east , west , south , north . When a threat was made
That it will come against you from the four corners of the earth ,
that simply meant its coming at you from all directions and there is no escape . that is an english phrase .
However i can understand why some would think it was flat due to the language .
But i would then invite them to read ISSIAH . which clearly states its a circle . iT is round .

@amigo de christo

 

[Grailhunter]

Alright... supposing the Earth is a sphere which does not orbit the Sun, as you move about the sphere, in what direction would you fall and what force is pulling you?

Supposing the Earth is flat, just a flat plain not in motion. What force pulls me back to the surface when I jump?

Yeap the Earth is a planet and like other planets, moons and suns it is round.

Sir Issac Newton...you should study gravity. The larger and heavier the planet moon or sun the more gravity.

Science proves Christianity in many ways.....Finding the history of the Bible is one of the ways.

Gravity is one of the ways that prove intelligent design. Gravity can be calculated mathematically. If God would have made gravity even a little bit stronger or weaker nothing would orbit. Either they would collapse on each other or just fly around in space independently, planets would not orbit suns so there would be no life.

Dirt is organic.....made of dead things. God created Earth as a bear rock. After billions of years all the life, that God created, lived and died and covered the planet with dirt.

 

[David in NJ]

@amigo de christo
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@amigo de christo

No No my Brother and Sister = circle does NOT mean "sphere/ball" earth

God already stated HE knows the difference in Isaiah = Isa 22:18

Now BELIEVE the TRUTH of His Creation= Jeremiah 31:35-37

35Thus says the Lord,
Who gives the sun for a light by day,
The ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night,
Who disturbs the sea,
And its waves roar
(The Lord of hosts is His name):
36“If those ordinances depart
From before Me, says the Lord,
Then the seed of Israel shall also cease
From being a nation before Me forever.”
37Thus says the Lord:

“If heaven above can be measured,
And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath,
I will also cast off all the seed of Israel
For all that they have done, says the Lord.

Why On Earth Would Anyone Trust NASA?

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[Grailhunter]

And there isn't even any teaching about the shape of the earth in scripture that I have ever seen. People seem to be extrapolating their own conclusions from isolated scriptures, which they are taking too literally.

Yeshua mission was to save souls but he was communicating with an ancient people. If he tried to explain DNA or the Laws of physics Quantum mechanics or the cosmos He would of confused them. Something as clear as the Bread and Wine ritual blew their minds. His Apostles were shocked and He lost a lot of his disciples. So the scriptures went with the perspective of the times and they believe the world was flat.

Why did the Jews and Christians believe that the world was flat and the sun and moon and stars moved around it? Why did they believe the world was on a fixed foundation? And why did sailors worry about sailing off the end of the world?

It wasn’t just the Jews and Christians; it was a common belief of the time period. And you will see a lot of references to “ the ends of the world and ends of the earth” The phrase mean something entirely different to us because we know the planet is round but, back then it was a fear…..of falling off the ends of the world….particularly for sailors.

The scriptures detail the earth stationary and flat and on a foundation.

According to these scriptures the earth has a foundation….and it was set on pillars that could be shaken but the earth could not move and the sun and moon moved around it….and if an object was tall enough it could be seen from the four corners of the earth because the earth was flat….and it had corners….and the sun and moon can stop traveling around the flat earth…. and heaven has windows.

1st Chronicles 16:30
Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved….. (They believed that the Earth did not rotate or move….. everything… sun, moon, and stars, orbits the earth.)

Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.

1st Samuel 2:8
He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes and has them inherit a throne of honor. For the foundations of the earth are the LORD’s; on them he has set the world.

Daniel 4:11
The tree grew large and became strong And its height reached to the sky, And it was visible to the end of the whole earth. The earth would have to be flat for the tree to be visible from the whole earth.

Isaiah 11:12
He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth….

Revelation 7:1
After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree…..The earth has corners,

Job 28:24
For he looks to the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens.

Job 37:3
He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth……..the earth has ends?

Jeremiah 51:16
When he utters his voice there is a tumult of waters in the heavens, and he makes the mist rise from the ends of the earth. He makes lightning for the rain, and he brings forth the wind from his storehouses.

John 17:24
Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world.

Proverbs 30:4
Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in his fists? Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth?

Psalm 19:4-6
Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them, and there is nothing hidden from its heat.

Psalm 67:7
God shall bless us; let all the ends of the earth fear him!

Psalm 98:3
He has remembered his steadfast love and faithfulness to the house of Israel. All the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.

Jeremiah 16:19
O Lord, my strength and my stronghold, my refuge in the day of trouble, to you shall the nations come from the ends of the earth and say: “Our fathers have inherited nothing but lies, worthless things in which there is no profit.

1st Samuel 2:10
The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; against them he will thunder in heaven. The Lord will judge the ends of the earth; he will give strength to his king and exalt the power of his anointed.”

Psalm 19:4
Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun,
(The ends of the world…..the ends of the earth….the four corners!! This was a big concern with sailors….that they would fall off the end of the world.)

Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened……(windows in the filament?)

Genesis 7:2
The fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained,

Isaiah 24:18
He who flees at the sound of the terror shall fall into the pit, and he who climbs out of the pit shall be caught in the snare. For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble.

Proverbs 8:29
And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.

Psalms 75:3
When the earth totters, and all its inhabitants, it is I who keep steady its pillars.…(the earth set on pillars?)

Job 9:6
Who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;

Ecclesiastes 1:5
The sun rises, and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises……(there is a place where the sun rises?)

Habukkuk 3:11
The sun and moon stood still in their place at the light of your arrows as they sped, at the flash of your glittering spear.

Joshua 10:12-13
At that time Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the sons of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and moon, in the Valley of Aijalon.”And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day……
It would be that the earth stopped rotating not the sun and moon stopping.

Over the years science has proven a lot of what in the Old Testament is true. But there is the human perspective of trying to explain and understand some events.

 

[David in NJ]

Yeshua mission was to save souls but he was communicating with an ancient people. If he tried to explain DNA or the Laws of physics Quantum mechanics or the cosmos He would of confused them. Something as clear as the Bread and Wine ritual blew their minds. His Apostles were shocked and He lost a lot of his disciples. So the scriptures went with the perspective of the times and they believe the world was flat.

Why did the Jews and Christians believe that the world was flat and the sun and moon and stars moved around it? Why did they believe the world was on a fixed foundation? And why did sailors worry about sailing off the end of the world?

It wasn’t just the Jews and Christians; it was a common belief of the time period. And you will see a lot of references to “ the ends of the world and ends of the earth” The phrase mean something entirely different to us because we know the planet is round but, back then it was a fear…..of falling off the ends of the world….particularly for sailors.

The scriptures detail the earth stationary and flat and on a foundation.

According to these scriptures the earth has a foundation….and it was set on pillars that could be shaken but the earth could not move and the sun and moon moved around it….and if an object was tall enough it could be seen from the four corners of the earth because the earth was flat….and it had corners….and the sun and moon can stop traveling around the flat earth…. and heaven has windows.

1st Chronicles 16:30
Tremble before him, all the earth! The world is firmly established; it cannot be moved….. (They believed that the Earth did not rotate or move….. everything… sun, moon, and stars, orbits the earth.)

Psalm 104:5
He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.

1st Samuel 2:8
He raises the poor from the dust and lifts the needy from the ash heap; he seats them with princes and has them inherit a throne of honor. For the foundations of the earth are the LORD’s; on them he has set the world.

Daniel 4:11
The tree grew large and became strong And its height reached to the sky, And it was visible to the end of the whole earth. The earth would have to be flat for the tree to be visible from the whole earth.

Isaiah 11:12
He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel; he will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the earth….

Revelation 7:1
After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree…..The earth has corners,

Job 28:24
For he looks to the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens.

Job 37:3
He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth……..the earth has ends?

Jeremiah 51:16
When he utters his voice there is a tumult of waters in the heavens, and he makes the mist rise from the ends of the earth. He makes lightning for the rain, and he brings forth the wind from his storehouses.

John 17:24
Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world.

Proverbs 30:4
Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in his fists? Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth?

Psalm 19:4-6
Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun, which comes out like a bridegroom leaving his chamber, and, like a strong man, runs its course with joy. Its rising is from the end of the heavens, and its circuit to the end of them, and there is nothing hidden from its heat.

Psalm 67:7
God shall bless us; let all the ends of the earth fear him!

Psalm 98:3
He has remembered his steadfast love and faithfulness to the house of Israel. All the ends of the earth have seen the salvation of our God.

Jeremiah 16:19
O Lord, my strength and my stronghold, my refuge in the day of trouble, to you shall the nations come from the ends of the earth and say: “Our fathers have inherited nothing but lies, worthless things in which there is no profit.

1st Samuel 2:10
The adversaries of the Lord shall be broken to pieces; against them he will thunder in heaven. The Lord will judge the ends of the earth; he will give strength to his king and exalt the power of his anointed.”

Psalm 19:4
Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world. In them he has set a tent for the sun,
(The ends of the world…..the ends of the earth….the four corners!! This was a big concern with sailors….that they would fall off the end of the world.)

Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep burst forth, and the windows of the heavens were opened……(windows in the filament?)

Genesis 7:2
The fountains of the deep and the windows of the heavens were closed, the rain from the heavens was restrained,

Isaiah 24:18
He who flees at the sound of the terror shall fall into the pit, and he who climbs out of the pit shall be caught in the snare. For the windows of heaven are opened, and the foundations of the earth tremble.

Proverbs 8:29
And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day.

Psalms 75:3
When the earth totters, and all its inhabitants, it is I who keep steady its pillars.…(the earth set on pillars?)

Job 9:6
Who shakes the earth out of its place, and its pillars tremble;

Ecclesiastes 1:5
The sun rises, and the sun goes down, and hastens to the place where it rises……(there is a place where the sun rises?)

Habukkuk 3:11
The sun and moon stood still in their place at the light of your arrows as they sped, at the flash of your glittering spear.

Joshua 10:12-13
At that time Joshua spoke to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the sons of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, “Sun, stand still at Gibeon, and moon, in the Valley of Aijalon.”And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stopped in the midst of heaven and did not hurry to set for about a whole day……
It would be that the earth stopped rotating not the sun and moon stopping.

Over the years science has proven a lot of what in the Old Testament is true. But there is the human perspective of trying to explain and understand some events.

God declared DNA in Genesis = chapters 1 thru 8

 

[David in NJ]

@amigo de christo
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Why On Earth Would Anyone Trust NASA?

https://nonorthodoxy.com/2021/07/01/outer-space-is-fake-stars-are-in-the-firmament/ Why On Earth Would Anyone Trust NASA? In this short 12-minute Reese Report, I lay out the main reasons that I think you shouldn’t. The Apollo moon missions were what triggered my so-called red pill moment back in...

www.bitchute.com

 

[TLHKAJ]

have some citing the scripture that speaks of the four corners of the earth, and others cite the scripture that says God sits on the circle of the earth. So which is it I wonder? ;) Does a circle have corners?

Since God CANNOT lie, both must be true. Ask Him. He answers when we ask. Some have explained the word "circle" also to mean "compass." But regardless, it's possible that the earth has both a square (with corners) and a circle ...possibly a square base with pillars and foundations ...and that the actual living area of earth as a circle (inside the square).

I choose to believe HIM.

 

[David in NJ]

That's just wrong, or worse, a lie. I have given no such estimation.

Good Morning ScottA

God can and has Spoken factually of His Creation and in His Manifold Wisdom, HE also Speaks thru His Creation of His Invisible Glory
Thus why Satan began his deception and rebellion with Nimrod and now today with NASA and the "kings, scientists and nobles of the earth"

The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. For what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse.

Genesis = Job = Jeremiah 31:35-37