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Michael Heiser has a couple of very good videos on this subject that everyone should watch.


It is important to be able to explain this to people. My own brother woud not accept the Bible as the word o God over this subject.
i feel sorry for this guy and all who follow the error of his ways/teachings

35:43 - "1 Corinthians ch11 has to do with the ancient Greeks and length of hair has to do with fertility" - wow

very dangerous = this man's intellectual ignorance of Scripture as he desperately tries to intellectualize God's Word

1 Cor ch11 = The Holy Spirit speaking thru Paul is addressing GENESIS and GOD's Will in creating Man first and the woman/Eve came from the Man/Adam = God's Creation and ORDER which Satan has overturned in this evil generation

continuing
 
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Satan wants me to believe God is truth?
Satan has no problem with a man who says A truth that GOD IS INDEED TRUTH .
S O LONG as their version of what they BELIEVE IS GOD and IS HIS TRUTH , is really naught
but a lie that twisted THE TRUE words of GOD .
Would you like the most common example in this generation .
ITS h ollers GOD IS LOVE . T RUE , but have ya looked at what it calls love and what it considers hate .
OOOPSY , satan can wear wool as do many of his minstirs within christedom can appear with wool .
But man they are headed right into that which is of anti christ
and his harlots cup of ecumenical interfaith of anti christ whoredomes of fornication and rebellion TO THE HOLY GOD .
BIBLE TIME c hihuahua , OH IT IS bible time in the land .
Satan is a highly clever being and he and his mins tirs SURE DO KNOW how to decieve .
 
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There is no upside to delusional thinking of reality. It is usually indicative of mental illness or brainwashing. It is no service to Christianity to make it seem delusional or to make belief in God and faith in Yeshua delusional. Because if you are so wrong about the world being flat, maybe they will think you are wrong about God being real too. Most people understand that delusional thinking is associated with cults and nothing they would want their children involved with.
Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:

2“Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
3Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.
4“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
 

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i feel sorry for this guy and all who follow the error of his ways/teachings

35:43 - "1 Corinthians ch11 has to do with the ancient Greeks and length of hair has to do with fertility" - wow

very dangerous = this man's intellectual ignorance of Scripture as he desperately tries to intellectualize God's Word

1 Cor ch11 = The Holy Spirit speaking thru Paul is addressing GENESIS and GOD's Will in creating Man first and the woman/Eve came from the Man/Adam = God's Creation and ORDER which Satan has overturned in this evil generation

continuing
and what if i told you that even satan himself sure can appear as an angel of light
as can his mins tirs appear in wool .
And that the one mind that satan can and does rule , IS THE CARNAL INTELLECTUL one .
And yet that darn sure has not stopped folks
from running to these so called wise sc holars , these so called wise men of hermenuetics , exegigs ,
koine greek and etc .
Cause i been watching them fellows . AND beleive me when i say
Their so called wise intellectual explanations and uses of hermes , exegiss , greek and etc
SURE IS doing exactly as do and as did the serpent
WHY THEY TWISTING THE WORDS OF GOD to fit a lie that fits their own doctrines .
And beleive me when i say
SATAN SURE can lip a t ruth, like ye shall become as gods to know good and evil
BUT BOY will he implant a lie . NAY NAY surely ye shall not die . BUT DIDNT GOD SAY THEY WOULD DIE .j
exactly . SO marvel not that satan can cry we must have unity , we must find common ground
And even say GOD is love . but examine what his love and that version loves and examine what it despises .
WHY IT LOVES A LIE and hates the truth . aint that something .
EV ERY last man and woman that rejected and beleived NOT JESUS IS THE CHRIST
has the only one outcome J ESUS himself made very very clear .
AND IT DARN SURE WASNT , OH ITS OKAY we all served the same GOD anyway .
IT was IF YE BELEIVE NOT that I AM HE , YE DIE IN YOUR SINS . YA PERISH , YA Damned .
NOW WE BOTH KNOW GOD cannot lie . THUS why do this generation seem to treat JESUS as though
HE HAD IT W RONG , THEY WONT PERISH , THEY WONT BE DAMNED , THEY WONT DIE if they bleieve not .
NOW JESUS SAID THEY WOULD . AND IF JESUS said it , WHY i take it as ABSOLUTE TRUTH .
Because if Jesus said it , WHO YA THINK SAID IT and FROM WHOM DO YE THINK it came . GOD . IT CAME OF GOD .
 

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Satan wants me to believe God is truth?
satan wants us to beleive HIS version of what HE says is GOD and HE says is love and HE says is truth .
HENCE , ya dont and wont see me sitting under HIS ecumenical whore who has done nothing
for this people CEPT DECEIVE THEM ALL . just a reminder , OH but a dire necessary one it surely is ........
 
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Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:

2“Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
3Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.
4“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!

The scriptures are not a good source for cosmology, human evolution, laws of physics, or medical treatment.
 

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and what if i told you that even satan himself sure can appear as an angel of light
as can his mins tirs appear in wool .
And that the one mind that satan can and does rule , IS THE CARNAL INTELLECTUL one .
And yet that darn sure has not stopped folks
from running to these so called wise sc holars , these so called wise men of hermenuetics , exegigs ,
koine greek and etc .
Cause i been watching them fellows . AND beleive me when i say
Their so called wise intellectual explanations and uses of hermes , exegiss , greek and etc
SURE IS doing exactly as do and as did the serpent
WHY THEY TWISTING THE WORDS OF GOD to fit a lie that fits their own doctrines .
And beleive me when i say
SATAN SURE can lip a t ruth, like ye shall become as gods to know good and evil
BUT BOY will he implant a lie . NAY NAY surely ye shall not die . BUT DIDNT GOD SAY THEY WOULD DIE .j
exactly . SO marvel not that satan can cry we must have unity , we must find common ground
And even say GOD is love . but examine what his love and that version loves and examine what it despises .
WHY IT LOVES A LIE and hates the truth . aint that something .
EV ERY last man and woman that rejected and beleived NOT JESUS IS THE CHRIST
has the only one outcome J ESUS himself made very very clear .
AND IT DARN SURE WASNT , OH ITS OKAY we all served the same GOD anyway .
IT was IF YE BELEIVE NOT that I AM HE , YE DIE IN YOUR SINS . YA PERISH , YA Damned .
NOW WE BOTH KNOW GOD cannot lie . THUS why do this generation seem to treat JESUS as though
HE HAD IT W RONG , THEY WONT PERISH , THEY WONT BE DAMNED , THEY WONT DIE if they bleieve not .
NOW JESUS SAID THEY WOULD . AND IF JESUS said it , WHY i take it as ABSOLUTE TRUTH .
Because if Jesus said it , WHO YA THINK SAID IT and FROM WHOM DO YE THINK it came . GOD . IT CAME OF GOD .
For
γάρ (gar)
Conjunction
Strong's Greek 1063: For. A primary particle; properly, assigning a reason.

it is written:
γέγραπται (gegraptai)
Verb - Perfect Indicative Middle or Passive - 3rd Person Singular
Strong's Greek 1125: A primary verb; to 'grave', especially to write; figuratively, to describe.

“I will destroy
Ἀπολῶ (Apolō)

Verb - Future Indicative Active - 1st Person Singular
Strong's Greek 622: From apo and the base of olethros; to destroy fully, literally or figuratively.

the
τὴν (tēn)
Article - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

wisdom
σοφίαν (sophian)
Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 4678: Wisdom, insight, skill (human or divine), intelligence. From sophos; wisdom.

of the
τῶν (tōn)
Article - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

wise;
σοφῶν (sophōn)
Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 4680: Wise, learned, cultivated, skilled, clever. Akin to saphes; wise.

the
τὴν (tēn)
Article - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

intelligence
σύνεσιν (synesin)

Noun - Accusative Feminine Singular
Strong's Greek 4907: From suniemi; a mental putting together, i.e. Intelligence or the intellect.

of the
τῶν (tōn)

Article - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 3588: The, the definite article. Including the feminine he, and the neuter to in all their inflections; the definite article; the.

intelligent
συνετῶν (synetōn)

Adjective - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's Greek 4908: Intelligent, prudent, wise, understanding, discerning. From suniemi; mentally put together, i.e. Sagacious.

I will frustrate.” = make NULL and VOID
ἀθετήσω (athetēsō)

Verb - Future Indicative Active - 1st Person Singular
Strong's Greek 114: From a compound of a and a derivative of tithemi; to set aside, i.e. to disesteem, neutralize or violate.
 

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Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said:

2“Who is this who darkens counsel
By words without knowledge?
3Now prepare yourself like a man;
I will question you, and you shall answer Me.
4“Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?
Tell Me, if you have understanding.
5Who determined its measurements?
Surely you know!
satan wants us to beleive HIS version of what HE says is GOD and HE says is love and HE says is truth .
HENCE , ya dont and wont see me sitting under HIS ecumenical whore who has done nothing
for this people CEPT DECEIVE THEM ALL . just a reminder , OH but a dire necessary one it surely is
 

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The scriptures are not a good source for cosmology, human evolution, laws of physics, or medical treatment.
and hence its why i dont FOLLOW cosmology , human evolution , laws of physics or contrary medical treatment .
As for the latter concerning medical treatement i do not speak of the things that do not CONTRADICT GOD .
only that which does . And one thing i know about medicine and doctors
Sure some of it can benefit .
BUT in the end i have seen folks who took it and still were not cured or still died
while some took it and were cured and still live .
IN O THER WORDS , ITS Not man and medicine that truly did determine their outcome .
IT WAS ALWAYS UP TO GOD .
 

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The scriptures are not a good source for cosmology, human evolution, laws of physics, or medical treatment.
in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

Run to the HELP from ABOVE = HE who came down from ABOVE

"I have indeed seen the oppression of my people in Egypt.
I have heard their groaning and have come down to set them free."
 

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and that is your limitation that you cannot move upward from without HELP from ABOVE
take notice of something my friend
Have you noticed something . That men rather trust IN SCIENCE , IN evolution , IN cosmologies of man
and thus at most will only TWIST scrips TO FIT IT , rather than SIMPLY BELEIVING WHAT IS WRITTEN .
I dont use the bible as a means to SUPPORT that
Rather its simply learn the bible and let the T RUTH by HIS SPIRIT change and mold ye minds to KNOW the TRUTH .
Just saying . WHY ya think i have long abandoned physcology
Long abandonded the evolution i once beleived .
Have abandoned the wise sounding and highly intellectual men who have twisted words by use
of what THEY claim as HIGHER LEARNING and ways of wisdom .
WHICH if one wo uld have but learned of GOD and learned the scrips ,
WHY they would have seen these men do nothing but so und wise
and by clever speeches DECIEVE and have DECIEVED this people .
 

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in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

Run to the HELP from ABOVE = HE who came down from ABOVE

"I have indeed seen the oppression of my people in Egypt.
I have heard their groaning and have come down to set them free."
Why i seen a truth in what grailhunter wrote .
For he said the scrips are not a good source of human evolution .
OF COURSE THEY AINT , ITS FALSE and scrips DO NOT s upport a lie
 

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take notice of something my friend
Have you noticed something . That men rather trust IN SCIENCE , IN evolution , IN cosmologies of man
and thus at most will only TWIST scrips TO FIT IT , rather than SIMPLY BELEIVING WHAT IS WRITTEN .
I dont use the bible as a means to SUPPORT that
Rather its simply learn the bible and let the T RUTH by HIS SPIRIT change and mold ye minds to KNOW the TRUTH .
Just saying . WHY ya think i have long abandoned physcology
Long abandonded the evolution i once beleived .
Have abandoned the wise sounding and highly intellectual men who have twisted words by use
of what THEY claim as HIGHER LEARNING and ways of wisdom .
WHICH if one wo uld have but learned of GOD and learned the scrips ,
WHY they would have seen these men do nothing but so und wise
and by clever speeches DECIEVE and have DECIEVED this people .
We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers, 3remembering without ceasing your work of faith, labor of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the sight of our God and Father, 4knowing, beloved brethren, your election by God. 5For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and in much assurance, as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake.

6And you became followers of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Spirit,
7so that you became examples to all in Macedonia and Achaia who believe. 8For from you the word of the Lord has sounded forth, not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place. Your faith toward God has gone out, so that we do not need to say anything. 9For they themselves declare concerning us what manner of entry we had to you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, 10and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
 
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in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, 3among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

Run to the HELP from ABOVE = HE who came down from ABOVE

"I have indeed seen the oppression of my people in Egypt.
I have heard their groaning and have come down to set them free."
One can disprove the entirety of evolution by just the first few things EVER written in gensis .
For evolution speaks of a long time in the eventual creation .
Which b eleiv e me would have been many mornings and many evenings .
I have even heard christains who s upport it t ry and say things like WELL how dont ya know
that millions of years were not as a day to GOD .
WELL then why did not say and the many MORNINGS and many Evenings were the first day .
IT SAY AND THE MORNING , singular and THE EVENING singular was the FIRST day .
As it did with ever yday . evolution can easily be spotted for the lie it is and was
ON even the very first page OF GENESIS .
 

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We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers, 3remembering without ceasing your work of faith, labor of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the sight of our God and Father, 4knowing, beloved brethren, your election by God. 5For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and in much assurance, as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake.

6And you became followers of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Spirit,
7so that you became examples to all in Macedonia and Achaia who believe. 8For from you the word of the Lord has sounded forth, not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place. Your faith toward God has gone out, so that we do not need to say anything. 9For they themselves declare concerning us what manner of entry we had to you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, 10and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
I dont seem to remember GOD taking a rib from a monkey to create man either .
But evolution teaches that man evoloved , even saying from microrgainims in water .
In fact the bible contradicts it and says GOD created the animals AS IS . FULLY GROWN and capable from day one ready to pro create .
I dont heed a word one of evilution and no that is not a mispelling , EVILUTION .
the philosphies of man CANNOT comprehend the things of GOD . its of the carnal mind , NOT the spiritual mind of Christ .
 

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I dont seem to remember GOD taking a rib from a monkey to create man either .
But evolution teaches that man evoloved , even saying from microrgainims in water .
In fact IT says GOD created the animals AS IS . FULLY GROWN and capable from day one ready to pro create .
I dont heed a word one of evilution and no that is not a mispelling , EVILUTION .
the philosphies of man CANNOT comprehend the things of GOD . its of the carnal mind , NOT the spiritual mind of Christ .
I dont seem to remember GOD taking a rib from a monkey to create man either .
lol = thank you for that one = great
 
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We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention of you in our prayers, 3remembering without ceasing your work of faith, labor of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ in the sight of our God and Father, 4knowing, beloved brethren, your election by God. 5For our gospel did not come to you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Spirit and in much assurance, as you know what kind of men we were among you for your sake.

6And you became followers of us and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Spirit,
7so that you became examples to all in Macedonia and Achaia who believe. 8For from you the word of the Lord has sounded forth, not only in Macedonia and Achaia, but also in every place. Your faith toward God has gone out, so that we do not need to say anything. 9For they themselves declare concerning us what manner of entry we had to you, and how you turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God, 10and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.
Evilutoin has us to ask WHICH came first the chicken or the egg .
BIBLE says THE CHICKEN , WHO THEN laid the egg .
 

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There is no upside to delusional thinking of reality. It is usually indicative of mental illness or brainwashing. It is no service to Christianity to make it seem delusional or to make belief in God and faith in Yeshua delusional. Because if you are so wrong about the world being flat, maybe they will think you are wrong about God being real too. Most people understand that delusional thinking is associated with cults and nothing they would want their children involved with.
@Grailhunter

God is not against us but for us = IF you are in CHRIST

other-wise


God promises to make NULL and VOID the "intelligence of the intelligent" = 1 Cor chapter 1
 
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@Grailhunter

God is not against us but for us = IF you are in CHRIST

other-wise


God promises to make NULL and VOID the "intelligence of the intelligent" = 1 Cor chapter 1
man i was smelling a serious stink earlier
and thought man it must be interaith ecumeincal stink .
Till i looked at the bottom of my boot and oopsy i stepped in a suprise in the yard .
But hey dont fault me , THEY DO smell about the same to me . Anway march on in the trenches .