What is the difference between the gospel to the Jews and the gospel to the gentiles?

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Jack

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ABSOLUTELY with relevant sections applying to relevant audiences & ages.
eg, Was John the Baptist saved by the Gospel that Christ taught to Paul in Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4 ?
If you believe YES, then please list the verses that confirm that :)
Absolutely? Doesn't sound like "absolutely". The NT is the Word of God! Can't make is any clearer!

John believed in Jesus, God of the Bible! Of course he was saved!
 

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Absolutely? Doesn't sound like "absolutely". The NT is the Word of God! Can't make is any clearer!

John believed in Jesus, God of the Bible! Of course he was saved!
""John believed in Jesus, God of the Bible! Of course he was saved!""
List the verses that teach John the Baptist was saved by the Gospel taught to Paul by Christ.
Without verses opinions mean Jack :)
 
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""John believed in Jesus, God of the Bible! Of course he was saved!""
List the verses that teach John the Baptist was saved by the Gospel taught to Paul by Christ.
Without verses opinions mean Jack :)
If you don't believe John the Baptist was saved maybe you should look in your mirror.

John was saved! John didn't have Paul's doctrines!
 

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If you don't believe John the Baptist was saved maybe you should look in your mirror.

John was saved! John didn't have Paul's doctrines!
Show the verses that teach John the Baptist was saved by the Gospel that Paul taught.
Can you do that or are you going to divert again ?
 
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Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Paul is referring to God's promise to Abraham to make Him a "Father of Nations" which the New Testament interprets as referring to the adoption of Gentiles. This comes back to the same gospel - of the unity of God and man when man repents and accepts God's authority.
Appears to be yet another gospel.
Would we evangelize someone today by telling them that through them all nations will be blessed?

However, I would agree that there seems to be a thread that ties all these gospels together. A common thread.
But what is it?

Is it repentance, as you say? Or something else? The forerunner was preaching the baptism of repentance. ???
 
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There's only one gospel, presented differently to meet the needs of the individual or group hearing it. But the foundational concept remains constant.
What is the essence that connects all these gospel messages?

They taught their children the correct method of worship. Cain thought he could do things his way.

God also taught Abraham the gospel. Not a different gospel, just more explicit information, nuanced to their circumstance.
More gospels. Eleven and twelve?
 

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If we are called to “turn to God” (in submission to Him as Lord) then we are called to turn away from Satan as our lord.

The way we obey the Gospel command to repent is to confess Jesus as our Lord.


  • with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
It occurs to me now that this may be the essence of the gospel message. (duh)
Turn to God. Which infers turning away from all else. When everything else has failed.

A person doesn't need to understand the birth, death and resurrection of Christ to do this.
It's a decision made when one hits the bottom and has nowhere else to go but up.

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It occurs to me now that this may be the essence of the gospel message. (duh)
Turn to God. Which infers turning away from all else. When everything else has failed.

A person doesn't need to understand the birth, death and resurrection of Christ to do this.
It's a decision made when one hits the bottom and has nowhere else to go but up.

cc: @Nancy
Why are you in a Christian Forum STV? Don't have a clue?
 

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New topic:

 

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a call is being made .
A reminder is being made .
Go to and stand before men , kings , presidents , popes , methodists , baptists and all .
And when you do remember its not by their words YE shall be judged .
MY WORDS WILL BE YOUR JUDGE ON THE LAST day .
SO WHEN any man , woman or child , donkey or angel does speak
IF their words In any shape , fashion or way , TWIST and omit HIS WORDS ,
HEED NOT A WORD ONE OUTTA THEM LIPS . they only DECIEVE you .
to make desciples of men , to have followings , to have worship and praise of men
to promote an agenda of men and of darkness .
BUT JESUS , NOT SO , HIS WORDS are SPIRIT and they are life .
EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH and works good to the hearer and the doer .
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a call is being made .
A reminder is being made .
Go to and stand before men , kings , presidents , popes , methodists , baptists and all .
And when you do remember its not by their words YE shall be judged .
MY WORDS WILL BE YOUR JUDGE ON THE LAST day .
SO WHEN any man , woman or child , donkey or angel does speak
IF their words In any shape , fashion or way , TWIST and omit HIS WORDS ,
HEED NOT A WORD ONE OUTTA THEM LIPS . they only DECIEVE you .
to make desciples of men , to have followings , to have worship and praise of men
to promote an agenda of men and of darkness .
BUT JESUS , NOT SO , HIS WORDS are SPIRIT and they are life .
EVERY WORD OF GOD IS TRUTH and works good to the hearer and the doer .
@amigo de christo
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The prophets are dead , Abraham is dead
AND YE say that if a man eat of me HE will never die
WHO makest thou thyself .
And now a word .
BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS , I AM . I sure never heard a prophet one make that cliam . nor any king or man .
In fact i would like to simply say
That before all that was created was , I AM always was . And BY HIM were all things created that were created .
Ever get the feeling Many now preach another jesus that has bowed the knee to man and the false religoins .
AND YET THE ALL T HINGS were created BY HIM . That JESUS dont work in unsion with false gods
and fairy tale buddas and muhammeds and etc . CAUSE LIGHT does not CO EXIST with darkness . IT EXPOSES darkness .
SO here is the two words i have for this finding common ground . NO DEAL
Cause i dont sit under and find common ground WITH darkness , with satan , with all his false religoins .
WE PREACH JESUS , not broad paths and cuymbia hug a t hons .
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Why are you in a Christian Forum STV? Don't have a clue?
You may or may not realize something . Many now desire to believe a lie .
They desire this path of even unbelief .
Many want to beleive that it will be okay for all peoples t ribes , religoins .
Thus they need to beleive the lie which actually silences the true g ospel .
They have much desire for this kuymbia love . Few even care the true gospel of Christ
and of the apostels , to include paul
HAS been trod under foot . THEY dont care . The power of a harlots love can have this effect .
But in the end this l ove will h ave cost them their soul .
 

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It occurs to me now that this may be the essence of the gospel message. (duh)
Turn to God. Which infers turning away from all else. When everything else has failed.

A person doesn't need to understand the birth, death and resurrection of Christ to do this.
It's a decision made when one hits the bottom and has nowhere else to go but up.

cc: @Nancy
''A person doesn't need to understand the birth, death and resurrection of Christ to do this.''

Those are the core messages of the faith. The whole basis of Christianity! Christ was both man and God, He was sinless, He died in our place. People need to know all of his. Our sin put him on that cross and every Christian should know these very key truths for redemption, and forgiveness of the sins that put Christ there to begin with.
I'm sorry St. SteVen but, I have to stop reading your posts. My belief is that you are lost :worried:
I will no longer throw precious pearls your way, you trod them down. If you own a bible, you might as well throw it away...better yet, give it to someone who will appreciate it. God have mercy on you.
 

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''A person doesn't need to understand the birth, death and resurrection of Christ to do this.''

Those are the core messages of the faith. The whole basis of Christianity! Christ was both man and God, He was sinless, He died in our place. People need to know all of his. Our sin put him on that cross and every Christian should know these very key truths for redemption, and forgiveness of the sins that put Christ there to begin with.
I'm sorry St. SteVen but, I have to stop reading your posts. My belief is that you are lost :worried:
I will no longer throw precious pearls your way, you trod them down. If you own a bible, you might as well throw it away...better yet, give it to someone who will appreciate it. God have mercy on you.
dear sister the man is in all out dire and grave danger as are some others .
If you examine them you will see the root cause .
Their d esire is a desire to beleive that in the end all will be okay for all souls .
They h ave come to plant doubts in the bible .
But remember THIS . IF GOD says something it is absolutely true .
Always remember that JESUS himself , nor the apostels
ever gave anyone who failed and failed to BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , as having any kind of hope at their end .
IT was always dire warnings about the DIRE need to believe , the dire need to CONTINUE to beleive
And the y absolutely would not accept any other gospel than the original one .
this generation is fast abandonding that now . I tried to warn us this was coming .
Many desire to beleive in UNBELEIF rather than simply preaching the DIRE NEED TO have had to BELEIVE .
I seen this coming years ago . SOON
the ecumenical phase will end and the Crusades against those who stood and stand on the only gospel
that can save , will begin . This life is a vapor sister . AND if we truly h ad loved them
WE would never have given anyone false hope . WE had pointed RATHER to the dire need TO beleive on JESUS
so as they could have been saved .
 

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If you don't believe John the Baptist was saved maybe you should look in your mirror.

John was saved! John didn't have Paul's doctrines!



Scripture teaches that there is one gospel and one Savior, applied across redemptive history.

Romans 3:25 explicitly states that God forgave sins committed before the cross in view of Christ’s atoning death. Paul likewise says that the gospel was “preached beforehand to Abraham” (Gal 3:8), and that all who are of faith are blessed along with him.

John the Baptist stands in that same covenant line. Jesus Himself affirms John’s place in the kingdom (Matt 11:11), and John explicitly testified that Jesus is “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29).

Salvation has never depended on possessing later doctrinal detail, but on faith in God’s promised Redeemer. Christ’s saving work applies both forward and backward in time (Heb 9:15).

Therefore, John the Baptist was saved by faith in Christ, just as Abraham was — not by a different gospel, but by the same one revealed progressively.
 

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Folks often wonder what is truth . But the real question is WHO IS TRUTH and WHOSE WORDS are TRUTH .
IF ya said GOD you would be right , IF ya said JESUS you would be right .
FOR GOD is T RUTH and HIS WORD is TRUTH and HIS WORDS are TRUTH .
GOD IS LIFE , HIS WORD is LIFE and his WORD even said MY WORDS are SPIRIT and THEY ARE LIFE .
THE SPIRIT IS TRUTH , THE SPIRIT IS LIFE , FOR GOD IS TRUTH and HE IS LIFE and has given all power
and authority and judgment unto THE SON who is LIFE .
MY WORDS will be your judge .
Not mans words
not societies words
not the popes words
not the methodists words
MY WORDS WILL BE YOUR JUDGE on the last day . I SUGGEST a return to THE BIBLE and very fast too .

‘I teach it like this…


Jesus Christ is the truth. Every word that proceeds out of His mouth is the truth.

The fullness of the truth is therefore expressed through:


His Gospel
His Doctrine
His Commandments


Disobeying and transgressing any of these will result in disconnecting from Christ.




His Doctrine:

Whoever transgresses and does not abide in the doctrine of Christ does not have God. He who abides in the doctrine of Christ has both the Father and the Son. 2 John 9

His Commandments:

He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1 John 2:4


His Gospel:

in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2Thessalonians 1:8
 

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""that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus ""<< Rom 10:9
"confess" <<<< Paul is telling ISRAEL what they must do
Rom ch's 9-11 Paul is speaking to ISRAEL :)
Read Rom 9:1-4, Rom 10:1, Rom 11:1

‘Paul is telling Jews and Gentiles in Rome how to become saved.
 
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