What is the difference between the gospel to the Jews and the gospel to the gentiles?

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There is a biblical warning about not preaching any OTHER gospel.
But it seems that there was a gospel message to the Jews and a gospel message to the gentiles.
Because the two audiences were completely different.

- The Jews, of course were expecting a Messiah. The gentiles weren't.
- The Jews were raised under the law. The gentiles weren't.

What other key differences altered the gospel message to the Jews as opposed to the gentiles?
There is no difference.
 

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""BUT all apostels before HIM had taught the same identical one .""
Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4
If it's the same then why did Christ need to teach it to him? Paul could have simply been taught it by the 12
Read it again CAREFULLY !!! :)
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
And from whom did the other Apostles learn the gospel?

A "person" other than Jesus??


John stated:

1 John 1:1-5
1 What was from the beginning, what we have heard, what we have seen with our eyes, what we have looked at and touched with our hands, concerning the Word of Life -

2 and the life was manifested, and we have seen and testify and proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and was manifested to us-

3 what we have seen and heard we proclaim to you also, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father, and with His Son Jesus Christ.

4 These things we write, so that our joy may be made complete.

5 This
is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.


Johh is speaking about the WORD OF LIFE....
Which was manifested to them....the Apostels...
And which they also proclaim to believers.

1 John was written at the end of the 1st century....
The word was already widespread among the Gentiles....

John was writing to the Gentiles and the Jews that were still alive from Jesus' time.
 
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Turn to God. Which infers turning away from all else.

Amen.


Satan is our lord until we turn to God in submission to Him as Lord.

But rise and stand on your feet; for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to make you a minister and a witness both of the things which you have seen and of the things which I will yet reveal to you. I will deliver you from the Jewish people, as well as from the Gentiles, to whom I now send you, to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.’ Acts 26:16-18


This is how it was done in that time.

Kings and kingdoms.

No elections.

When a stronger kingdom was to overthrow another kingdom, they would amass their army and go to the kingdom city where the opposing king resided and surround that city and then the commander of the army would ride out to meet the other commander and announce the unconditional terms of surrender.


Turn away from the king you are serving and come and "bend the knee" (submit) to the king of Babylon (example) or you will die.


This is how a person would be transferred out of their kingdom into the kingdom that was at hand, by repenting; turning away from the king who was about to be conquered and submit to the conquering king of Babylon that was at hand.


The first century people who heard this understood the meaning.
 
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''A person doesn't need to understand the birth, death and resurrection of Christ to do this.''

Those are the core messages of the faith. The whole basis of Christianity! Christ was both man and God, He was sinless, He died in our place. People need to know all of his. Our sin put him on that cross and every Christian should know these very key truths for redemption, and forgiveness of the sins that put Christ there to begin with.
I'm sorry St. SteVen but, I have to stop reading your posts. My belief is that you are lost :worried:
I will no longer throw precious pearls your way, you trod them down. If you own a bible, you might as well throw it away...better yet, give it to someone who will appreciate it. God have mercy on you.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
I was referring to the conversion experience, not the ongoing life of the believer.
A person need not have all their doctrine figured out to receive the Lord.
That will come in time.
 

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Hey JJ, what do you believe is THAT Gospel that applies today ?
Hint :) Gal 1:11-12, Eph 1:13, 1 Cor 15:1-4.
Not sure who "Hey JJ"? is, but brother Saint Christopher (GRACE ambassador) here hlo

Precious friend, @rvmb, I believe we are on the "same page" Scripturally? Please advise about the following?:

Borrowed from: I have decided to follow Jesus?:

Precious friends, for your prayerful and Careful consideration:

I have decided to Love and Follow Jesus?

A) Do I follow Him, and the doctrine He Spoke as The:

Humble Christ, on the earth, To Israel, 12 apostles, Under The Law/covenants
/Prophecy:

1) Repent (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!") or perish
(Luke 13:3,5, 24:47; Mar 1:4)​
+
2) believe the gospel of the kingdom (Mat 4:23, 9:35, 24:14; Mar 1:14,15)
+
3) be baptized "For the remission of sin" (Mar 1:4 Luke 3:3, 7:29:30, 24:47;
Act 2:38)​
+
4) "show works meet for repentance" (Mat 3:8), because,
+
5) "to the twelve tribes of Israel," "faith Without works is dead"
(James 1:1, 2:17,26)​
+
6) "keep the commandments" to "enter life" (Mat 19:17)
+
7) "one thing thou lackest...sell ALL/take up cross/follow Jesus"
(Mar 10:17-23 cp Acts 2:44, 4:32-37 AV)​
+
8) pray as a watchman, for Great Tribulation, man of sin, son of perdition, and
signs of the end times, and The Prophesied Second Coming?​

Do I follow His earthly prophecy program of covenants and law?
( OT, Mat - John, Heb - Rev ) or?:​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online)

B) Do I follow The LORD Jesus Christ As The Risen And Glorified "Head Of His Church" and:

His Heavenly Grace Program, According To The Revelation Of The Mystery?
(His Doctrine in Romans - Philemon!)?:​

1) Have repentance toward God (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!")
+
2) Have ►► (With Grace Through) faith ◄◄ toward The LORD Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21),
and trust/believe The Gospel Of The Grace Of God: His Death, Burial, And Resurrection,​
According To The Scripture (Ephesians 2:5-9; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4; Titus 3:4-7 AV)​
+
3) Acknowledge I am Spiritually Baptized By The ONE Baptism Of The Holy Spirit
Into The One (Spiritual Organism) Body Of Christ, Seated In the Heavenlies
+
4) Acknowledge Christ Is Living in me, so I allow Him to, through me:
+
5) To Fulfil:
All Of His Law, In One Word: ►► love ◄◄ thy neighbor​
as thyself!" (Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)​
+
6) Study God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided to show myself "Approved Unto God"
(2 Timothy 2:15), and then obey all the rest of these Bible study Rules
+
7) Work with my hands to "give to them in need," and The LORD "shall supply all my need"
+
8) Be a humble prayer warrior and ►► hope ◄◄ :
"...looking, watching, and Patiently Waiting For...": The LORD Jesus Christ!
+
9) Put on the Full armour of God and stand, in the spiritual warfare I wrestle with
+
10)
Eph 6:19 "And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I​
may open my mouth boldly, to make known The Mystery Of The Gospel,"
+
11)
Eph 3:9 "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of The Mystery, which from the​
beginning of the world hath been hid in God, Who Created all things by Jesus Christ"​
+
12) Acknowledge that I am going to give an account at Judgment (1 Corinthians 3:8-15;
Romans 14:12), at my Heavenly Home-Going ( Great GRACE Departure! )​

According to these and all the details of God's Sound Doctrinal Blueprint In
Romans Through Philemon? (1 Timothy 1:10; 2 Timothy 4:3; Titus 1:9):​

Titus 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:​

Or?:

C) Do I speak after following the Many, who homogenize A) + B) into what
seems to be Contradictions ( water or Spirit Baptism, sell all or work, etc. )?​

"For God is not the author of confusion, but of Peace,​
as in all churches of the saints." (1 Corinthians 14:33)​
Amen. Bible Answer "THAT Gospel that Applies Today?":

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Very Helpful Full study:

Christianity Is...

cc: Precious friend @St. SteVen, hope this will Be Very Richly Encouraging and Edifying In Christ!

Amen.
 
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Not sure who "Hey JJ"? is, but brother Saint Christopher (GRACE ambassador) here hlo

Precious friend, @rvmb, I believe we are on the "same page" Scripturally? Please advise about the following?:

Borrowed from: I have decided to follow Jesus?:

Precious friends, for your prayerful and Careful consideration:

I have decided to Love and Follow Jesus?

A) Do I follow Him, and the doctrine He Spoke as The:

Humble Christ, on the earth, To Israel, 12 apostles, Under The Law/covenants
/Prophecy:

1) Repent (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!") or perish
(Luke 13:3,5, 24:47; Mar 1:4)​
+
2) believe the gospel of the kingdom (Mat 4:23, 9:35, 24:14; Mar 1:14,15)
+
3) be baptized "For the remission of sin" (Mar 1:4 Luke 3:3, 7:29:30, 24:47;
Act 2:38)​
+
4) "show works meet for repentance" (Mat 3:8), because,
+
5) "to the twelve tribes of Israel," "faith Without works is dead"
(James 1:1, 2:17,26)​
+
6) "keep the commandments" to "enter life" (Mat 19:17)
+
7) "one thing thou lackest...sell ALL/take up cross/follow Jesus"
(Mar 10:17-23 cp Acts 2:44, 4:32-37 AV)​
+
8) pray as a watchman, for Great Tribulation, man of sin, son of perdition, and
signs of the end times, and The Prophesied Second Coming?​

Do I follow His earthly prophecy program of covenants and law?
( OT, Mat - John, Heb - Rev ) or?:​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online)

B) Do I follow The LORD Jesus Christ As The Risen And Glorified "Head Of His Church" and:

His Heavenly Grace Program, According To The Revelation Of The Mystery?
(His Doctrine in Romans - Philemon!)?:​

1) Have repentance toward God (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!")
+
2) Have ►► (With Grace Through) faith ◄◄ toward The LORD Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21),
and trust/believe The Gospel Of The Grace Of God: His Death, Burial, And Resurrection,​
According To The Scripture (Ephesians 2:5-9; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4; Titus 3:4-7 AV)​
+
3) Acknowledge I am Spiritually Baptized By The ONE Baptism Of The Holy Spirit
Into The One (Spiritual Organism) Body Of Christ, Seated In the Heavenlies
+
4) Acknowledge Christ Is Living in me, so I allow Him to, through me:
+
5) To Fulfil:
All Of His Law, In One Word: ►► love ◄◄ thy neighbor​
as thyself!" (Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)​
+
6) Study God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided to show myself "Approved Unto God"
(2 Timothy 2:15), and then obey all the rest of these Bible study Rules
+
7) Work with my hands to "give to them in need," and The LORD "shall supply all my need"
+
8) Be a humble prayer warrior and ►► hope ◄◄ :
"...looking, watching, and Patiently Waiting For...": The LORD Jesus Christ!
+
9) Put on the Full armour of God and stand, in the spiritual warfare I wrestle with
+
10)
Eph 6:19 "And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I​
may open my mouth boldly, to make known The Mystery Of The Gospel,"
+
11)
Eph 3:9 "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of The Mystery, which from the​
beginning of the world hath been hid in God, Who Created all things by Jesus Christ"​
+
12) Acknowledge that I am going to give an account at Judgment (1 Corinthians 3:8-15;
Romans 14:12), at my Heavenly Home-Going ( Great GRACE Departure! )​

According to these and all the details of God's Sound Doctrinal Blueprint In
Romans Through Philemon? (1 Timothy 1:10; 2 Timothy 4:3; Titus 1:9):​

Titus 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:​

Or?:

C) Do I speak after following the Many, who homogenize A) + B) into what
seems to be Contradictions ( water or Spirit Baptism, sell all or work, etc. )?​

"For God is not the author of confusion, but of Peace,​
as in all churches of the saints." (1 Corinthians 14:33)​
Amen. Bible Answer "THAT Gospel that Applies Today?":

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Very Helpful Full study:

Christianity Is...

cc: Precious friend @St. SteVen, hope this will Be Very Richly Encouraging and Edifying In Christ!

Amen.


The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the Gospel of Grace.


For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
John 1:17
 
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You may or may not realize something . Many now desire to believe a lie .
They desire this path of even unbelief .
Many want to beleive that it will be okay for all peoples t ribes , religoins .
Thus they need to beleive the lie which actually silences the true g ospel .
They have much desire for this kuymbia love . Few even care the true gospel of Christ
and of the apostels , to include paul
HAS been trod under foot . THEY dont care . The power of a harlots love can have this effect .
But in the end this l ove will h ave cost them their soul .
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The gospel is a gem with many facets. The focus depends on the facet you examine. It's the old "three blind men define an elephant" dilemma One grabs the trunk and says it's a wall. Another a leg and says it's a tree. It seems that some here want to cut that ole elephant up and define the piece they see as a separate entity but there is only one elephant. There is also only one gospel.
 
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Scripture teaches that there is one gospel and one Savior, applied across redemptive history.

Romans 3:25 explicitly states that God forgave sins committed before the cross in view of Christ’s atoning death. Paul likewise says that the gospel was “preached beforehand to Abraham” (Gal 3:8), and that all who are of faith are blessed along with him.

John the Baptist stands in that same covenant line. Jesus Himself affirms John’s place in the kingdom (Matt 11:11), and John explicitly testified that Jesus is “the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world” (John 1:29).

Salvation has never depended on possessing later doctrinal detail, but on faith in God’s promised Redeemer. Christ’s saving work applies both forward and backward in time (Heb 9:15).

Therefore, John the Baptist was saved by faith in Christ, just as Abraham was — not by a different gospel, but by the same one revealed progressively.
Not by a different gospel , but by the same one was was REVEALED IN CHRIST .
Christ had not yet been crucified nor risen again . This HE would fullfill .
But after His ressurection He had told The apostels to tarry at JERSUALEM
till the POWER be poured upon them f rom on HIGH .
AND FROM THAT MOMENT ON , The preaching OF THE ONE TRUE GOSPEL would forever be taught
His death , burial and RESSURECTION and the DIRE NECESSITY to BELEIVE IT .
That gospel . HAS NEVER changed . It was given by the apostels
Later even paul would have it revealed to him . And i frankly dont care what this ecumeincal generation has to say
IT HAS NOT CHANGED . I shun the all inclusive ecumincal hharlots interfaith message to the pits of upomost darkness
from wehnce it sprang.
Take notice . THIS , what you are witnessing in this g eneration
Has come of a well favored harlot who is doing all to remove the one true gospel
By means of a harlots love , f or to ga ther all to b e as one under her .
This people fools many . But NOT THE SHEEP . NO sirs and no mams , NOT THE SHEEP .
WE sho uld have preached CHRIST and the dire necessity to BELEIVE THE ONE TRUE GOSPEL .
But a w hores love can be a powerful aroma to the decieved who so loved and love their sin .
And thus were fast to move to sit under A WHORE that accepts them as IS , SO long as they sit under HER .
People have about no idea what has and what is occuring now .
 
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Gal 2:6 ...for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:
Next reason as to why Christ taught the UNIQUE Gospel to Paul in Gal 1:11-12 that the 12 did not yet know.
That conclusion doesn't follow logically.

That they added nothing says that Paul already had the entire gospel. If anything, this re-confirms that it is the same gospel, because they were comparing... it's not a contrast.
 

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Appears to be yet another gospel.
Would we evangelize someone today by telling them that through them all nations will be blessed?

However, I would agree that there seems to be a thread that ties all these gospels together. A common thread.
But what is it?

Is it repentance, as you say? Or something else? The forerunner was preaching the baptism of repentance. ???
I'm going to attempt an answer... in the new topic. :)
 
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Not sure who "Hey JJ"? is, but brother Saint Christopher (GRACE ambassador) here hlo

Precious friend, @rvmb, I believe we are on the "same page" Scripturally? Please advise about the following?:

Borrowed from: I have decided to follow Jesus?:

Precious friends, for your prayerful and Careful consideration:

I have decided to Love and Follow Jesus?

A) Do I follow Him, and the doctrine He Spoke as The:

Humble Christ, on the earth, To Israel, 12 apostles, Under The Law/covenants
/Prophecy:

1) Repent (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!") or perish
(Luke 13:3,5, 24:47; Mar 1:4)​
+
2) believe the gospel of the kingdom (Mat 4:23, 9:35, 24:14; Mar 1:14,15)
+
3) be baptized "For the remission of sin" (Mar 1:4 Luke 3:3, 7:29:30, 24:47;
Act 2:38)​
+
4) "show works meet for repentance" (Mat 3:8), because,
+
5) "to the twelve tribes of Israel," "faith Without works is dead"
(James 1:1, 2:17,26)​
+
6) "keep the commandments" to "enter life" (Mat 19:17)
+
7) "one thing thou lackest...sell ALL/take up cross/follow Jesus"
(Mar 10:17-23 cp Acts 2:44, 4:32-37 AV)​
+
8) pray as a watchman, for Great Tribulation, man of sin, son of perdition, and
signs of the end times, and The Prophesied Second Coming?​

Do I follow His earthly prophecy program of covenants and law?
( OT, Mat - John, Heb - Rev ) or?:​

Rightly Divided (2 Timothy 2:15) From “Things That Differ!” (online)

B) Do I follow The LORD Jesus Christ As The Risen And Glorified "Head Of His Church" and:

His Heavenly Grace Program, According To The Revelation Of The Mystery?
(His Doctrine in Romans - Philemon!)?:​

1) Have repentance toward God (change mind about sin/agree With God "it is Wrong!")
+
2) Have ►► (With Grace Through) faith ◄◄ toward The LORD Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21),
and trust/believe The Gospel Of The Grace Of God: His Death, Burial, And Resurrection,​
According To The Scripture (Ephesians 2:5-9; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4; Titus 3:4-7 AV)​
+
3) Acknowledge I am Spiritually Baptized By The ONE Baptism Of The Holy Spirit
Into The One (Spiritual Organism) Body Of Christ, Seated In the Heavenlies
+
4) Acknowledge Christ Is Living in me, so I allow Him to, through me:
+
5) To Fulfil:
All Of His Law, In One Word: ►► love ◄◄ thy neighbor​
as thyself!" (Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)​
+
6) Study God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided to show myself "Approved Unto God"
(2 Timothy 2:15), and then obey all the rest of these Bible study Rules
+
7) Work with my hands to "give to them in need," and The LORD "shall supply all my need"
+
8) Be a humble prayer warrior and ►► hope ◄◄ :
"...looking, watching, and Patiently Waiting For...": The LORD Jesus Christ!
+
9) Put on the Full armour of God and stand, in the spiritual warfare I wrestle with
+
10)
Eph 6:19 "And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I​
may open my mouth boldly, to make known The Mystery Of The Gospel,"
+
11)
Eph 3:9 "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of The Mystery, which from the​
beginning of the world hath been hid in God, Who Created all things by Jesus Christ"​
+
12) Acknowledge that I am going to give an account at Judgment (1 Corinthians 3:8-15;
Romans 14:12), at my Heavenly Home-Going ( Great GRACE Departure! )​

According to these and all the details of God's Sound Doctrinal Blueprint In
Romans Through Philemon? (1 Timothy 1:10; 2 Timothy 4:3; Titus 1:9):​

Titus 2:1 But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine:​

Or?:

C) Do I speak after following the Many, who homogenize A) + B) into what
seems to be Contradictions ( water or Spirit Baptism, sell all or work, etc. )?​

"For God is not the author of confusion, but of Peace,​
as in all churches of the saints." (1 Corinthians 14:33)​
Amen. Bible Answer "THAT Gospel that Applies Today?":

View attachment 75647

Very Helpful Full study:

Christianity Is...

cc: Precious friend @St. SteVen, hope this will Be Very Richly Encouraging and Edifying In Christ!

Amen.
Hi Chris, a long post that confirms ? you accept the teachings of Christ THROUGH Paul as to how 'we today' are saved :gd
Paul also teaches how we should lead our lives which (though saved) will determine eternal rewards/loss 1cr3:10-15, 2cr5:10

""Not sure who "Hey JJ"? is, but brother Saint Christopher (GRACE ambassador) here"""

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Yes, I think we'd have a better than 50% chance of winning. Historically, the church has been very favorable to statements of "only one."

Paul:
Ephesians 4:4 [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.

The Nicene creed:
"One God"
"One Lord Jesus Christ"
"One holy catholic church"
"One baptism for the forgiveness of sins"

The Reformation:
"Sola Scriptura"
"Sola Christus"
"Sola Gratia"
"Sola Fide"
"Soli Deo Gloria"

Lawyers love statements of exclusivity. They make judgments easy. :)
Only one Gospel ?
Was Abraham saved by the Gospel that Christ UNIQUELY taught to Paul ?
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
 
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Only one Gospel ?
Was Abraham saved by the Gospel that Christ UNIQUELY taught to Paul ?
Gal 1:11-12
11But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
Yes

Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed.
 
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Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, [saying], In thee shall all nations be blessed.
I fail to see where the death, burial and resurrection is in that.
And what about repentance and baptism?
Yet another gospel. [edit]
 
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