Trump has abandoned America First

[Matthias]

"We need your country for national security".

The kings of Israel and Judah said something similar in their day.

Do you recall the Messiah or the apostles ever saying anything like that?

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Do you recall the Messiah or the apostles ever saying anything like that?

Yeah the Lord is going to take over the entire world to ensure the security of His Kingdom.

When the Lord does this, will it be your claim that the Lord is involved in wrong doing???

 

[Matthias]

Yeah the Lord is going to take over the entire world to ensure the security of His Kingdom.

That’s right.

When the Lord does this, will it be your claim that the Lord is involved in wrong doing???

No. Maranatha.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

No. Maranatha.

OK, so just like when the Lord takes over the entire world to ensure the security of His Kingdom will be good for the inhabitants of the world.

By the same token if the US takes over Greenland for the purposes of national security the inhabitants of Greenland are going to be way better of cause we will provide for them far better than the Netherlands who don't do squat for the people there

At the end of WW2 Eisenhower considered taking over Greenland using the US military and other US Presidents wanted to do the same.

This is where Trump got the idea as he read why previous presidents wanted Greenland, so Trump didn't just dream this idea up on his own.

 

[Matthias]

OK, so just like when the Lord takes over the entire world to ensure the security of His Kingdom will be good for the inhabitants of the world.

By the same toke if the US takes over Greenland for the purposes of national security the inhabitants of Greenland are going to be way better of cause we will provide for them far better than the Netherlands who don't do squat for the people there

There is a night and day difference between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of the world.

Jesus and the apostles weren’t about what the Roman Empire should or shouldn’t do for national security.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Jesus and the apostles weren’t about what the Roman Empire should or shouldn’t do for national security.

And yet God's Word says He puts leaders in to place and removes leaders from their place.

God is the One that established civil authority in Romans 13:3,4

Say what you will about Trump, but it's obvious the Lord is using Trump for His purposes in the face of all odds.

There's no way Trump got re-elected without the Lord setting him up to be elected.

One of the primary reasons being Trump supports Israel

 

[Berean]

Anyone else tired of being sold a pig and a poke? I know I am. Donald Trump sold us a lie. That lie was America first, or MAGA, for short. But now what do we hear? Well we were going to do America first, but politics is... too hard.

Nope, because we're told "Don't put your trust in human leaders; no human being can save you." Psalm 146:3
So nothing they say or promise, or rather don't promise, surprises me.
I don't vote, never have, never will.
Jesus is my King, my leader.

 

[Matthias]

And yet God's Word says He puts leaders in to place and removes leaders from their place.

That’s right.

God is the One that established civil authority in Romans 13:3,4

In all nations. Rignt?

Say what you will about Trump, but it's obvious the Lord is using Trump for His purposes in the face of all odds.

I’ll say then that God is using Trump to accomplish his purpose.

There's no way Trump got re-elected without the Lord setting him up to be elected.

 

[Riven]

Yeah, Trump got that from previous Presidents the first of why was Eisenhower right after WW2

We even establish military bases there back in the day

Greenland is mostly ignored by Denmark who spends very little in support of this province.

They would be far better of becoming a US territory

It is ultimately up to Denmark. The people living in Greenland don't want to become a US territory. Again, look at the pretext: "We need this patch of land for our national security".

It is implied that there's some great threat waiting out there for us. Trump has brought up Russian and Chinese warships that use those waters.

But here's the thing. We have sattelites in space that can clearly identify the ass on a camel. We can see whether or not military bases are being built near Greenland from space.

Furthermore, we, have this asset called the United States Navy. If Chinese and Russian warships were a true threat to our national security, they would be destroyed.

Finally, what's the long term threat here? That Russian and China are going to build military bases and attack Canada and the US? It's ridiculous. Neither country has any desire to attack the United States.

So what is this, really? Well I think it's another lame attempt by Trump to focus on superfluous things that don't matter. Much like "Gulf of America" and him adding his name to the Kennedy Center. It's vanity and it's pathetic.

 

[Matthias]

The kings of Israel and Judah said something similar in their day.

Was God pleased with them, did he commend them, for doing it?

 

[Riven]

The kings of Israel and Judah said something similar in their day.

Do you recall the Messiah or the apostles ever saying anything like that?

No.

 

[Matthias]

No.

Israel and Judah both sought the aid of pagan nations for their national security. God has some harsh things to say about that.

Jesus and the apostles didn’t spend time and attention on what the Roman emperors should do for the security of the Roman empire.

1st century or 21st century, the followers of Jesus live in the world but are not of the world.

 

[Wrangler]

The US military does not go to war with the intention of not achieving it's objectives. It simply wasn't able to achieve them in Vietnam,

Lap 2. The US military won almost every major battle in Vietnam. It was political manipulation that thwarted total victory from our own military.

Large armies are very good at fighting other armies. What they're not very good at is fighting insurgents.

You’re psychologically controlled by the ghost of Vietnam rather than the military excellence in Iraq. For instance, in the first 2 weeks, the US dropped more bombs than all 4 years of WWII. And they caught Saddam.

The "war on drugs" as it's used in this context, is a pretext for the invasion and occupation of Venezuela.

How do you conclude the motivation is not to stop deadly fentanyl from killing Americans?

The real objective for this administration appears to be Venezuela's large abundance of oil and natural resources.

And how do you conclude the motivation is Venezuela's large abundance of oil and natural resources? Amazing fact free post. All you need is accusations and slander.

The fact that you don't see the parallels between this and the Iraq war in 2003, is both shocking and sad.

There are parallels among all things in the same genus. Do you see any differences between this and the Iraq war in 2003?

 

[Wrangler]

The people living in Greenland don't want to become a US territory.

Oh, I think the people living in Greenland DO want to become a US territory, which explains why their leader reached out to Trump.

 

[Triumph1300]

When the Lord does this, will it be your claim that the Lord is involved in wrong doing???

There you go......comparing Trump with the Lord AGAIN.
This is getting more bizarre every time the Trump supporters post something.

 

[Triumph1300]

Donald Trump spent months declaring Iran’s nuclear program “completely and fully obliterated.”

This week, standing outside Mar-a-Lago next to Benjamin Netanyahu, he quietly abandoned that fantasy.

Now Iran is “maybe” rebuilding, there’s “smoke,” and if that turns into “fire,” the U.S. will have “no choice”.

More war mongering.
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In the mean time Israel decided no more help from outside in Gaza!
"Doctors without borders", and other help organizations are told by Israel to leave Gaza.

Sickening.

And people are still getting shot left and right.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

It is ultimately up to Denmark. The people living in Greenland don't want to become a US territory. Again, look at the pretext: "We need this patch of land for our national security".

And if the people of Denmark and Greenland want the protection of the US they should at very least allow the US to build a major military base there

This would be to prevent Russia and China from taking them over by force as Greenland is a strategic location to defend the northern hemisphere

They can let us in now, or be ignored and become our adversary when Russia and China take them over by force

But here's the thing. We have sattelites in space that can clearly identify the ass on a camel.

Filthy communication is demonic

You should repent and ask the Lord to forgive you for for cussing like that.

On the other hand, thanks for that because now I understand I'm speaking with someone who is not being led of the Lord.

At least I know where you stand spiritually and it's not with the Holy Spirit because He does not lead people to use filthy communication like that

We can see whether or not military bases are being built near Greenland from space.

Yeah and we'll be able to see Russian and Chinese forces invade and take over from space too.

Then, it'll be too late for Greenland. Oh well.

If Chinese and Russian warships were a true threat to our national security, they would be destroyed.

Well you hope that would be the case.

China and Russia both have supersonic missiles that can take out any of our war ships before the ship even knows the missile is on the way and have no way to defend themselves.

The US needs to support Israel and strengthen our stance against lawlessness domestically if we want to keep the Lord's blessing which is the only way we don't get destroyed by evil.

Our own military has said if China, Russia, and all the nations in league with them all attack the US at once we would lose.

This is why Trump is seeking to build up our military and regain some tactical advantages which is why we need a major military base on Greenland.

The Russians and the Chinese are already thinking about taking Greenland so who would you rather see occupy Greenland, them or us?

Finally, what's the long term threat here? That Russian and China are going to build military bases and attack Canada and the US? It's ridiculous. Neither country has any desire to attack the United States.

You're obvious an amateur. China is preparing for war with the US and has been for years

You should pull your head out. Time to get in touch with reality

So what is this, really? Well I think it's another lame attempt by Trump to focus on superfluous things that don't matter. Much like "Gulf of America" and him adding his name to the Kennedy Center. It's vanity and it's pathetic.

Those not being led of the Holy Spirit such as yourself are subject to TDS which is what is actually pathetic

If liberals like yourself were left in charge they would allow Chinese troops to invade the US without firing a shot and would view them bring their communism in taking us over as "liberation"

Liberals are just useful idiots to the devil, tools to help spread evil.

 

[Triumph1300]

Re; Mrs Greene:
After Trump publicly branded her a “traitor,” Mrs. Greene says she received a direct threat against her college-aged son. She immediately alerted Trump.

His response did not express concern for the child.
He insulted her instead and told her she had only herself to blame.
When Greene protested that children should be off-limits, Trump reportedly doubled down.

That detail matters. It demonstrates not just cruelty but moral abandonment and the enforcement mechanism behind MAGA loyalty.

In Greene’s telling, loyalty is not mutual, it is transactional, conditional, and disposable.

Defy him, and even your family becomes collateral.

 

[Triumph1300]

Filthy communication is demonic

You should repent and ask the Lord to forgive you for for cussing like that.

Look who is talking.

A person comparing Trump with the Lord is actually talking about what is and what is not "demonic", lol.

Speaking up against Trump is now DEMONIC.

 

[Triumph1300]

Liberals are just useful idiots to the devil, tools to help spread evil.

I don't think naming people on this forum USEFUL IDIOTS is allowed.