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This is where we need to reason on things.
I make no apology for my words QT....as I have said before...my posts are not just for you. You can read them or not....that is not my problem. If you provide a basis for a response, I will give you one. You already know that I am detailed in my answers because details are important.
IOW...according to your response, you have no real idea about what the Kingdom is...what it’s for, who are taken into that Kingdom, and what it will achieve. I guess that answers my question QT...have you developed your own “structure” and your own “paradigm”?.....and therefore your own “vision”.....so, as long as you believe it, everyone else’s views can be ignored? Is that a wise purse to take?
Seeing you are so sure of your position, I guess we'll just have to wait to see how things pan out.
Numbers it appears are the bottom line for you. You assume that volume equals weightiness and accuracy.
Won’t we all? We will all be judged on what we have accepted as truth, when God gave it to us via his word, but we chose to ignore what he said, in favour of what we felt.
You couldn’t be more wrong.....numbers have nothing to do with being saved, as salvation is open to all....but what we do have is Jesus assurance that even though “many” are on the wrong path....”few” by comparison, will find the narrow gate and actually enter onto the cramped road to life.....(Matt 7:13-14; 21-23)
It is clear, at least to me, speaking out of both sides of your mouth is not a problem for you.....when you feel it is justified.
Please clarify that statement....how am I speaking out of both sides of my mouth? Be succinct....what do you mean? If you plainly state things there is no necessity to go round in circles....
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Why do you presume i know nothing of Cornelius? I read the same bible stories as you. You make presumptions about others lack of understanding, then state the obvious, as if it is a reflection of great revelation, and then ask, what am I missing? What you are missing is that everyone's experience is different. Cornelius had a different experience from Peter. Peter wasn't born again until after the resurrection. Nicodemus was a slow boil until he chose to "come out". I have never claimed that being born again looks the same for everyone. Not everyone comes from the same background as me. Many grow up in their parents church going back generations, but never genuinely enter into a relationship with Jesus until they l leave the church as adults, come to a crisis in life, cry out to God in desperation and meet Him for the first time as He saves them from whatever crisis was going on, and introduces Himself in answer to their cry. Others, like Cornelius are converted after a period of growth and a revelation of more accurate and precise teaching and conviction. Others, despite having spent their lives in a church all their lives, surrender their lives as adults when they come to a realisation of the sinfulness and their need of a Saviour. But one thing is common to all. They all, without exception, came to a point when they knew their lives were not up to the standard required for glory, and gave their lives to the Father and the Son that they may change their lives according to the will of God, and not man.
You brought up the many in defence of your denial of the born again experience. I was confirming the truth you spoke regarding the large number of self helpers in the church, but I gave it context. What about you Jane? Have you come to that revelation of self, a knowledge that the heart of men and women is wicked and the thoughts of their hearts only evil continually? If not, you need a change of heart. You need to meet Jesus. You need to be born again. Christians are often accused of using church as a crutch in order to "handle" life. My answer to them is that a crutch will never suffice to give the help required. Mankind need far more than a crutch. They need heart transplants. They need to be born again.
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Many people experienced the atmosphere of heaven while in the presence of the Son of God. They saw the Father's love in action. The received healing, hope, and a promise far beyond their pueblos experience with the religious teachers of their day. Many believed on Him after witnessing the miracles and wonderful works that Jesus did. His fame went out into all the world. The would have been entire villages that after He had passed through, wherein no longer was there any sickness or suffering. Everyone on Palestine knew of God reputation, of not experiencing it first hand. Even menu of the terminology leaders beleived on Him, beleived in his divinity, that He was the Messiah but for fear of being booted from the synagogue, did not confess their faith. They loved the praises of men above above the honouring of God. Righteousness, holiness, obedience, humility, came a distant second second to self and pride. How much more do well they despise the atmosphere of purity and holiness of heaven and the company of angels should they be transported there without a change in character and motives?
Our "home" is this planet, Earth. -- Psalm 115:16; Psalm 25:12,13; Psalm 37:29,34: Matthew 5:5; Isaiah 45:18.
