Do the Ten Commandments still apply under the new covenant today?
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You need to just stop making empty statements. Saying we MUST obey the TC and Christ's teaching may sound great, but we are all guilty where they are concerned, you me and everyone else. If you want to keep repeating that, say alongside it you much transgress those laws yourself, IF, the second greatest commandment mattered to you.Are you a non-intelligent person?
Are you omni-present? Like God - you know what everyone does?
How about forgetting your dumb list and responding to and with scritpure.
When you want to have an INTELLIGENT conversation,,,,
use scripture and reply to questions.
See, someone reading your words might be under the false impression you follow all of that law yourself, then they get crushed by their failures they perceive you are not making. Many walk away from the faith, believing they cannot live a good enough life for God.
If we MUST obey God's laws, don't ignore the second greatest
I dont need it to prove hypocrisy.
Your statements you MUST obey the TC places a believer under righteousness of obeying the law. Here's scripture, Paul says we die to the law, we are released from it and serve in the new way of the Spirit NOT the old way of the written code. How does dying to the law and being released from it fit in with your statement you MUST obey the TC?
You made the following comments in another thread:
‘’We are to keep all His commandments---which He narrowed down to the Two Great Commandments...
and, we are to keep the Moral Law which would be the 10 Commandments.’’
Jesus left us with COMMANDMENTS,,,,we are to follow those commandments.
The Moral Law must be followed too.
That would be the Ten Commandments.''
How does your statements fit in with what Paul wrote:
So, my brothers and sisters, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For when we were in the realm of the flesh,[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in us, so that we bore fruit for death. 6 But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code. Rom7:4-6
And BTW, if you say Paul's words do not refer to the TC I can quickly show you they do
So, Ive given you scripture, but I still don't expect a reply
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Unbelievers, unsaved persons, must obey God?
Why?
How can a person be more lost than lost?
Of course they must, every human being must, and that’s why they’re in trouble and in need of salvation. Man, merely by creation, is obliged to obedience unto God, his Creator.
Being “lost” is the sad consequence of disobedience unto God. We’re lost because of sin, which is disobedience unto God. And so, if we are lost because of our disobedience, that implies that we owe obedience. Since if we were obedient, we would not have been lost in the first place.
about"Interesting because it is plainly written in the new covenant era obeying a specific Saturday Sabbath is not required" can you show me where this is written, i have never seen this.
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind Rom14:5
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. Col2:16
Do you understand the outworking of the new covenant?
If the law to follow a set Saturday Sabbath was written in the mind and placed on the hearts of believers, a person would have to be conscious of sin by not following it
Matthew 7:21
“Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.”
Matthew 7:24
“Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock.”
Matthew 19:17
“And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.”
John 14:15
“If ye love me, keep my commandments.”
John 14:21
“He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me.”
John 15:10
“If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love.”
John 8:51
“Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death.”
John 12:48
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.”
James 2:17
“Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.”
James 2:24
“Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.”
1 John 2:3
“And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.”
1 John 2:4
“He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.”
1 John 3:4
“Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”
1 John 3:6
“Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.”
1 John 3:7
“Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.”
1 John 5:3
“For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.”
Paul was speaking about the many sabbaths in the Levetical laws, feasts ... not the Ten Commandment sabbath. many are confused about this, just research this for yourself and see.
Best not to take a part of what I wrote whilst omitting the rest. Distorting what someone has written does not speak well of the person doing it
Jesus said the Holy Spirit brings His words into our minds and hearts. His words never removed the Sabbath. He said He is Lord of it. So if His teaching is written in the heart, the command He kept and honored is also written there.
You didnt address what I wrote. If the law to observe a set Saturday sabbath was written in the mind and placed on the hearts of believers do you understand a person must be conscious of sin if they do not follow it?
I expected an answer like that. Unfortunatley only one sabbath/sacred day was mentioned in Rom 14 and there is nothing about feast days in the chapter
Please tell me the post you got that from, I will then repost it all and show your distortion of what I wrote, Im sure you won't mind
i did answer but you did not understand, then a simpler version :"YES"
Do away the “Saturday” and it’s true. The Ten Commandments don’t say that the Sabbath must fall on a Saturday.
Also, Paul tells us if gentiles had never known of biblical law they can show the requirements(not some of the requirements) of the law are written on their hearts, obviously by the way they act. Do you agree with him?
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