Do the Ten Commandments still apply under the new covenant today?

[GodsGrace]

Yet all the dictionaries I go to say concupiscence means sexual desire/lust:
For I would not have know lust unless the law had said: Thou shalt not covet, but sin, taking occasion of the commandment aroused all manner of concupiscence in me. Its a slam dunk really, but you carry on

Please read what you posted:


For I would not have know lust unless the law had said: Thou shalt not covet, but sin, taking occasion of the commandment aroused all manner of concupiscence in me.

AROUSED ALL MANNER OF CONCUPISENSE


You really should find out what that word means.

Here's some more help for you:


Concupiscence.—Rather, coveting; the same word which had been used above. Sin and the Commandment together—Sin, the evil principle in men, acting as the primary cause, and the Commandment as the secondary cause—led their unfortunate victim into all kinds of violation of the Law. This is done in two ways: (1) the perverseness of human nature is such that the mere prohibition of an act suggests the desire to do that which is prohibited; (2) the act, when done, is invested with the character of sin, which hitherto it did not possess. It becomes a distinct breach of law, where previously there had been no law to break. This is what the Apostle means by saying that “without the Law sin was dead.” Until there was a written prohibition, Sin (the evil principle) was powerless to produce sinful actions.


Concupiscence - Unlawful or irregular desire. Inclination for unlawful enjoyments. The word is the same which in Romans 7:7 is rendered "lust." If it be asked in what way the Law led to this, we may reply, that the main idea here is, that opposition by law to the desires and passions of wicked men only tends to inflame and exasperate them. This is the case with regard to sin in every form. An attempt to restrain it by force; to denounce it by laws and penalties; to cross the path of wickedness; only tends to irritate, and to excite into living energy, what otherwise would be dormant in the bosom.


Wrought in me all manner of concupiscence; i.e. inordinate affections and inclinations of all sorts.


κατειργ. ἐν ἐμοὶ πᾶσαν ἐπιθ.] it brought about in me all manner of desire. Respecting κατεργάζ., see on Romans 1:27. Even without the law there is desire in man, but not yet in the ethical definite character of desire after the forbidden, as ἐπιθυμία is conceived of according to Romans 7:7; for as yet there is no prohibition, and consequently no moral antithesis existing to the desire in itself (“ignoti nulla cupido,” Ovid, A. A. 397), through which antithesis the inner conflict is first introduced. Every desire is, in accordance with the quite general οὐκ ἐπιθυμήσεις, to be left without limitation. No desire (as respects category) was excluded. A reference to the desires, which the state of civilisation joined with a positive legislation calls forth (de Wette), is foreign to the connection. Comp. Proverbs 9:17.


concupiscence] The same word as that just rendered “lust.”—The verb is aorist; wrought; but the reference is not necessarily to any single crisis of the past. St Paul probably views the whole past action of the Commandment and of Sin respectively as, in idea, one thing. Not, however, that there may not have been a crisis of “fierce temptation” in his recollection.—These remarks apply to Romans 7:9-11 also.


source: Biblehub Commentaries

 

[saved by grace 101]

Please read what you posted:


For I would not have know lust unless the law had said: Thou shalt not covet, but sin, taking occasion of the commandment aroused all manner of concupiscence in me.

AROUSED ALL MANNER OF CONCUPISENSE


You really should find out what that word means.

Here's some more help for you:


Concupiscence.—Rather, coveting; the same word which had been used above. Sin and the Commandment together—Sin, the evil principle in men, acting as the primary cause, and the Commandment as the secondary cause—led their unfortunate victim into all kinds of violation of the Law. This is done in two ways: (1) the perverseness of human nature is such that the mere prohibition of an act suggests the desire to do that which is prohibited; (2) the act, when done, is invested with the character of sin, which hitherto it did not possess. It becomes a distinct breach of law, where previously there had been no law to break. This is what the Apostle means by saying that “without the Law sin was dead.” Until there was a written prohibition, Sin (the evil principle) was powerless to produce sinful actions.


Concupiscence - Unlawful or irregular desire. Inclination for unlawful enjoyments. The word is the same which in Romans 7:7 is rendered "lust." If it be asked in what way the Law led to this, we may reply, that the main idea here is, that opposition by law to the desires and passions of wicked men only tends to inflame and exasperate them. This is the case with regard to sin in every form. An attempt to restrain it by force; to denounce it by laws and penalties; to cross the path of wickedness; only tends to irritate, and to excite into living energy, what otherwise would be dormant in the bosom.


Wrought in me all manner of concupiscence; i.e. inordinate affections and inclinations of all sorts.


κατειργ. ἐν ἐμοὶ πᾶσαν ἐπιθ.] it brought about in me all manner of desire. Respecting κατεργάζ., see on Romans 1:27. Even without the law there is desire in man, but not yet in the ethical definite character of desire after the forbidden, as ἐπιθυμία is conceived of according to Romans 7:7; for as yet there is no prohibition, and consequently no moral antithesis existing to the desire in itself (“ignoti nulla cupido,” Ovid, A. A. 397), through which antithesis the inner conflict is first introduced. Every desire is, in accordance with the quite general οὐκ ἐπιθυμήσεις, to be left without limitation. No desire (as respects category) was excluded. A reference to the desires, which the state of civilisation joined with a positive legislation calls forth (de Wette), is foreign to the connection. Comp. Proverbs 9:17.


concupiscence] The same word as that just rendered “lust.”—The verb is aorist; wrought; but the reference is not necessarily to any single crisis of the past. St Paul probably views the whole past action of the Commandment and of Sin respectively as, in idea, one thing. Not, however, that there may not have been a crisis of “fierce temptation” in his recollection.—These remarks apply to Romans 7:9-11 also.


source: Biblehub Commentaries

You have no understanding of Paul's message, what is entailed in obeying the TC, Rom ch7, you just make empty statements and demands neither you or anyone else can live up to, due to you not having the conviction you should have concerning what obedience entails in the TC

 

[saved by grace 101]

Please read what you posted:


For I would not have know lust unless the law had said: Thou shalt not covet, but sin, taking occasion of the commandment aroused all manner of concupiscence in me.

AROUSED ALL MANNER OF CONCUPISENSE


You really should find out what that word means.

Here's some more help for you:


Concupiscence.—Rather, coveting; the same word which had been used above. Sin and the Commandment together—Sin, the evil principle in men, acting as the primary cause, and the Commandment as the secondary cause—led their unfortunate victim into all kinds of violation of the Law. This is done in two ways: (1) the perverseness of human nature is such that the mere prohibition of an act suggests the desire to do that which is prohibited; (2) the act, when done, is invested with the character of sin, which hitherto it did not possess. It becomes a distinct breach of law, where previously there had been no law to break. This is what the Apostle means by saying that “without the Law sin was dead.” Until there was a written prohibition, Sin (the evil principle) was powerless to produce sinful actions.


Concupiscence - Unlawful or irregular desire. Inclination for unlawful enjoyments. The word is the same which in Romans 7:7 is rendered "lust." If it be asked in what way the Law led to this, we may reply, that the main idea here is, that opposition by law to the desires and passions of wicked men only tends to inflame and exasperate them. This is the case with regard to sin in every form. An attempt to restrain it by force; to denounce it by laws and penalties; to cross the path of wickedness; only tends to irritate, and to excite into living energy, what otherwise would be dormant in the bosom.


Wrought in me all manner of concupiscence; i.e. inordinate affections and inclinations of all sorts.


κατειργ. ἐν ἐμοὶ πᾶσαν ἐπιθ.] it brought about in me all manner of desire. Respecting κατεργάζ., see on Romans 1:27. Even without the law there is desire in man, but not yet in the ethical definite character of desire after the forbidden, as ἐπιθυμία is conceived of according to Romans 7:7; for as yet there is no prohibition, and consequently no moral antithesis existing to the desire in itself (“ignoti nulla cupido,” Ovid, A. A. 397), through which antithesis the inner conflict is first introduced. Every desire is, in accordance with the quite general οὐκ ἐπιθυμήσεις, to be left without limitation. No desire (as respects category) was excluded. A reference to the desires, which the state of civilisation joined with a positive legislation calls forth (de Wette), is foreign to the connection. Comp. Proverbs 9:17.


concupiscence] The same word as that just rendered “lust.”—The verb is aorist; wrought; but the reference is not necessarily to any single crisis of the past. St Paul probably views the whole past action of the Commandment and of Sin respectively as, in idea, one thing. Not, however, that there may not have been a crisis of “fierce temptation” in his recollection.—These remarks apply to Romans 7:9-11 also.


source: Biblehub Commentaries

And BTW, I could recite word for word Rom7:7-11 of my testimony when I responded to an altar call at the age of ten. Because, I tried to attain to Heaven as did Saul the Pharisee, so I can speak of conviction and personal experience, I repeat, you do not understand Paul's core message

 

[LoveYeshua]

When will you people stop being blind, the example Paul gave as to why he had to die to the law/die to righteousness of obeying it was, because he could not obey the law relating to the inner man, the law no one but he and God need know he broke. Covered by the tenth commandment. Everyone on this earth is guilty where that law is concerned
But you people carry blindly on, continually repeating: We must obey the TC
There is no watered down version of the TC in the bible, only the true version, the letter of which kills, and anyone with the law in their heart and mind SHOULD know that

No matter what I answered you would disagree but Jesus answered your question just search and you will find, just try it and see.

 

[GodsGrace]

And BTW, I could recite word for word Rom7:7-11 of my testimony when I responded to an altar call at the age of ten. Because, I tried to attain to Heaven as did Saul the Pharisee,

So now you no longer feel the necessity of obeying God?

so I can speak of conviction and personal experience, I repeat, you do not understand Paul's core message

What is Paul's core message?
Does Paul teach that we are to disobey God?

You do not understand a simple word: CONCUPISCENSE

How do you hope to understand Paul's writings?

Do you believe Paul is teaching something different than what Jesus taught?

You died to the Law.
You are now living IN CHRIST.

Christ demands obedience.



John 12:26
26 "If anyone serves Me, he must follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also; if anyone serves Me, the Father will honor him.


1 John 2:3
3 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.



Jesus taught that we are to count the cost of following Him:

Luke 14:28-30
28 "For which one of you, when he wants to build a tower, does not first sit down and calculate the cost to see if he has enough to complete it?
29 "Otherwise *, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who observe it begin to ridicule him,
30 saying, 'This man began to build and was not able to finish.'

 

[saved by grace 101]

So now you no longer feel the necessity of obeying God?

What is Paul's core message?
Does Paul teach that we are to disobey God?

You do not understand a simple word: CONCUPISCENSE

How do you hope to understand Paul's writings?

Do you believe Paul is teaching something different than what Jesus taught?

You died to the Law.
You are now living IN CHRIST.

Christ demands obedience.



John 12:26
26 "If anyone serves Me, he must follow Me; and where I am, there My servant will be also; if anyone serves Me, the Father will honor him.


1 John 2:3
3 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments.



Jesus taught that we are to count the cost of following Him:

Luke 14:28-30
28 "For which one of you, when he wants to build a tower, does not first sit down and calculate the cost to see if he has enough to complete it?
29 "Otherwise *, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who observe it begin to ridicule him,
30 saying, 'This man began to build and was not able to finish.'

At the age of ten I responded to an altar call. The first and most noticeable difference in me was, I because aware/conscious of my sin/shortcomings before God in a real and profound way. And, I set out to live a pure and holy life for God, in reality, by obeying God’s laws/TC. There was no excuse for sin, if I was to inherit eternal life, I must obey God’s laws/not commit sin.

The problem was, I could not be sinless. I was not loving others as I should, I had unkind thoughts of others, I got angry at times(as kids and adults do) and all the time I felt much guilt at my imperfections/failure to obey God’s laws/not commit sin.

But then I reached puberty and my problems magnified out of all recognition, for along came impure thoughts/lust. I honestly did not want them, I wanted to live a pure and holy life for God. They were transgressing the TC, I was risking hell by having them. My stomach used to churn over when they came, I did not want to go to hell. The more I feared those thoughts, the worse they got. In the end, to use a Greek term, I was consumed by all manner of concupiscence/lust. In the years since I got saved I had become exceedingly sinful, far more than I would ever have imagined possible

Looking back at that time, what can I say about it? I had felt alive once, a normal healthy kid before I made that commitment to Christ, because the law had not been placed within me, and so, there was no condemnation concerning it. But when it did come, sin revived, or sin consciousness sprang to life and I died/felt condemned. The commandment I believed was ordained to life, if I obeyed it, instead brought death/condemnation for I could not keep it. Through my knowledge of the tenth commandment, and my fear of breaking it, all manner of concupiscence/lust/sexual desire had been aroused in me, and through the law I was condemned:

Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

9 For I was alive without the law once: but when the commandment came, sin revived(or sin consciousness sprang to life) and I died.

10 And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.

11 For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.

Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

13 Was then that which is good made death unto me? God forbid. But sin, that it might appear sin, working death in me by that which is good; that sin by the commandment might become exceeding sinful.

 

[saved by grace 101]

So now you no longer feel the necessity of obeying God?

I think you should ask yourself that question, you appear not to hav e the conviction of what sin is to the degree you should. I accept your ignorance concerning concupiscence
Incidentally, a christian counsellor told me half the sex addicts in the US had at one time been to churches he described as ''holiness'' churches. Happens today as it did in biblical times. But I think you cannot comprehend any of this

 

[saved by grace 101]

No matter what I answered you would disagree but Jesus answered your question just search and you will find, just try it and see.

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I asked you a simple question, as I asked God's Grace the same question, neither of you were willing to answer it

 

[saved by grace 101]

No matter what I answered you would disagree but Jesus answered your question just search and you will find, just try it and see.

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You know the pharisees cleaned the outside of the cup but not the inside-right?
I chatted to a woman on another website who believed all possible Torah should be followed. However, she said and I quote ''Thoughts are not covered by Torah and they are minimal.'' You people who insist the law/TC must be obeyed, refuse to see exactly where the bar is set for obedience

 

[saved by grace 101]

So now you no longer feel the necessity of obeying God?

A few years later someone gave me a book to read, in it was a chapter on Paul’s message of grace, I was stunned by what I read, I could have no righteousness of obeying God’s laws. I believed even I could be a Christian as that was the case, so, I recommitted my life to Christ. But what of the sin? I didn’t want it, the law was in my heart. There was a particular sin I had been a slave to for six years, and it was my master, it transgressed one of the TC. I gave it to God and trusted I was saved because Jesus was my righteousness before him.

The next three days were so hard, here I was transgressing one of the TC but looking to Jesus and trusting he was my right standing before God. A voice in my head constantly told me I was just a hypocrite and faking Christianity, I could not be a Christian and do what I was doing. And every fibre of my rational being agreed with that voice, it had to be the only correct and logical truth, but the bible stated I was righteous apart from obeying the law, so I clung to that in simple faith, logic had to be discarded

On the fourth day, this sin I had been a slave to for six years, a sin that had been my master stopped. When I feared it could send me to hell it only got worse:

For sin shall no longer be your master, for you are not under law/righteousness of obeying the law but under grace/righteousness of faith in Christ Rom6:14

Do we then make void the law by faith/righteousness of faith in Christ not obeying the law. God forbid: Yea, we establish the law. Rom3:31

Of course, if I had believed ‘’I MUST obey the TC’’ I never would have been set free of that sin!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Why are sinfull passions aroused in us

No, YOU are aroused by sinful passions

Those of us who have submitted to the leading of the Holy Spirit allowing the Holy Spirit to live in us are not turned on by sin like you "follow the old testament law" people are.

How many wives do you have in your concubine these days anyways?

How/why was sin able to take occasion of one of the TC to arouse all manner of concupiscence in Saul Rom7:8

Shows how little you know.

Romans 7 man is not a born again man - we know that because he tells us he is sold under sin

Those that have been born again are not sold under sin unless they backslide and become reprobates the Lord turned over to their devices

I am assured, neither you or God's Grace can answer those questions

Purveyors of false doctrine refuse to accept the whole counsel of God so of course they are clueless and can't see the answers

Not true, lust is covered by the tenth commandment

Under OT law there was no commandment to stone those who lusted after women.

for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.

What you fail to realize is 9 or the 10 commands are found in the New Covenant under the Law of Christ.

So someday maybe you can grow spiritually and understand Moses is no longer the high priest because Jesus is our High Priest and He has changed the law. Too bad you have not studies the Book of Hebrews

Hebrews 3:5,6
And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we, IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place. (Now we are to be led by the Holy Spirit abiding in Christ)

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

 

[saved by grace 101]

No, YOU are aroused by sinful passions

Those of us who have submitted to the leading of the Holy Spirit allowing the Holy Spirit to live in us are not turned on by sin like you "follow the old testament law" people are.

How many wives do you have in your concubine these days anyways? View attachment 77724




Shows how little you know.

Romans 7 man is not a born again man - we know that because he tells us he is sold under sin

Those that have been born again are not sold under sin unless they backslide and become reprobates the Lord turned over to their devices




Purveyors of false doctrine refuse to accept the whole counsel of God so of course they are clueless and can't see the answers




Under OT law there was no commandment to stone those who lusted after women.




What you fail to realize is 9 or the 10 commands are found in the New Covenant under the Law of Christ.

So someday maybe you can grow spiritually and understand Moses is no longer the high priest because Jesus is our High Priest and He has changed the law. Too bad you have not studies the Book of Hebrews

Hebrews 3:5,6
And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
But Christ as a Son over His own house; whose house are we, IF we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.

Now, there is a new house, the Body of Jesus Christ! Under the New Covenant that the Lord said would come forth, we see Jesus Christ as the High Priest. The old covenant with it’s laws and regulations have been taken away because thru Jesus Christ a new and better covenant has come in to place. (Now we are to be led by the Holy Spirit abiding in Christ)

Hebrews 10:9
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
(God said He would make a New Covenant - see Jeremiah 31:31-34)

Hebrews 8:6
But now hath Jesus obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also Jesus is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.

And with the changing of the priesthood, God’s Word tells us there is also a change of the law.

Hebrews 7:12
For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Nothing of importance to read here, time to move on

 

[saved by grace 101]

You do not understand a simple word: CONCUPISCENSE

How do you hope to understand Paul's writings?

Im begining to feel foolish for even replying to you.
Your first statement is nonsensical. I go to four dictionaries, they all say concupiscence means what I've told you it means, yet you write what you do. You go by commentaries, dictionaries are more reliable
As to who understands Paul, what can I say? You believe we MUST obey the law he says we die to. Except, you can't obey it can you!

 

[GodsGrace]

A few years later someone gave me a book to read, in it was a chapter on Paul’s message of grace, I was stunned by what I read, I could have no righteousness of obeying God’s laws. I believed even I could be a Christian as that was the case, so, I recommitted my life to Christ. But what of the sin? I didn’t want it, the law was in my heart. There was a particular sin I had been a slave to for six years, and it was my master, it transgressed one of the TC. I gave it to God and trusted I was saved because Jesus was my righteousness before him.

THIS is the problem here.
You feel you cannot keep the commandments and so you read something of Paul's that sounds good and decide that you will become obsessed with that while never really understanding what it even means.

Jesus comes first.
We must listen to Him,,,hear Him,,,and obey HIM.

Jesus offers practical advice for those that wish to be saved.

We go to Paul to learn about the Crhistian theology.
Paul did not go to the cross...Jesus did.

I come across persons on these boards that believe in Paul instead of believing in Jesus.

Those that fear sin and feel they could not conquer sin will go to the difficult scripture of Paul that SOUNDS good, but he is saying exactly what Jesus taught but with deeper ideas.

This attitude is most unfortunate in the Christian faith because Paul HIMSELF taught that we are NOT OF PAUL and NOT OF APOLLOS...
we belong to Christ.

1 Corinthians 3:4-5
4 For when one says, "I am of Paul," and another, "I am of Apollos," are you not mere men?
5 What then is Apollos? And what is Paul? Servants through whom you believed,

Paul is a SERVANT THROUGH WHOM WE BELIEVE.
It is JESUS that we believe and follow for salvation.

The next three days were so hard, here I was transgressing one of the TC but looking to Jesus and trusting he was my right standing before God. A voice in my head constantly told me I was just a hypocrite and faking Christianity, I could not be a Christian and do what I was doing. And every fibre of my rational being agreed with that voice, it had to be the only correct and logical truth, but the bible stated I was righteous apart from obeying the law, so I clung to that in simple faith, logic had to be discarded

On the fourth day, this sin I had been a slave to for six years, a sin that had been my master stopped. When I feared it could send me to hell it only got worse:

For sin shall no longer be your master, for you are not under law/righteousness of obeying the law but under grace/righteousness of faith in Christ Rom6:14

Do we then make void the law by faith/righteousness of faith in Christ not obeying the law. God forbid: Yea, we establish the law. Rom3:31

Of course, if I had believed ‘’I MUST obey the TC’’ I never would have been set free of that sin!

Do you realize that what you post sounds like we do not need to obey the Commandments?
When the NT is full of instruction to be obedient.
Have I not posted sufficient scripture?

You've had a personal experience that has helped you.
Instead of concentrating on the commandments, you concentrated on Jesus.
THIS is what Paul is speaking of...
the differnece between law and grace.
But you ARE now being obedient....

And who told you you had to be perfect?
Did you not read 1 John?
Did you not read the story of the Prodigal Son in Luke 15?

You've created your own theology based on your own personal experience.
I've met several that do this.
They feel guilty, so they change what Paul teaches....
as if he taught something differently than Jesus.

As if Paul taught that we do not have to obey God's commandments.

Hebrews states that God will put the law in our MINDS AND IN OUR HEARTS.
Hebrews 8:10

We must believe with the heart in order to have success....(the difference between the law and grace)
but BELIEVE means TO OBEY.

 

[saved by grace 101]

THIS is the problem here.
You feel you cannot keep the commandments and so you read something of Paul's that sounds good and decide that you will become obsessed with that while never really understanding what it even means.

Your post is meaningless. In the post you are responding to I gave an example of how sin was overcome in my life, yet you still write what you do in the above, that says much

 

[saved by grace 101]

THIS is the problem here.
You feel you cannot keep the commandments and so you read something of Paul's that sounds good and decide that you will become obsessed with that while never really understanding what it even means.

How about you? Do you obey the law relating to the inner person, the law no one but you and God need know you break(tenth commandment) I know, you refuse to answer, your silence is deafening.
Yours is a terrible example of the faith. Make empty pat statements you do not even try and live up to in your own life, insisting of others what you do not insist of yourself. People who do that understand little, though they think they know much. Just look at the pharisees of Jesus day!
And that is trampling all over the second greatest commandment

 

[LoveYeshua]

BTW
Paul told born again christians in the present tense the letter of the TC kills, it is the ministry of death and condemnation. He did NOT state those words in the past tense

Here you go again, Paul, Paul this, Paul that..what about Jesus? what he teaches, asked us to do, of no importance to you?

The truth is this; without Jesus none can be saved, I am not only speaking of the death and resurrection of Jesus here but also everything else he did, by example he did show us how to live properly with Love, the core of the Gospel. he asked us to repent and sin no more. If you do not know the teachings of Jesus , learn them fast. If your ignore them you cannot be saved.

It is undeniable that Jesus told us to Keep the Commandments and live by them. Doing so is according to Jesus A REQUIREMENT for eternal life, Jesus said so, you better learn this and fast the door will be shut soon and it will be too late.

 

[saved by grace 101]

Here you go again, Paul, Paul this, Paul that..what about Jesus? what he teaches, asked us to do, of no importance to you?

The truth is this; without Jesus none can be saved, I am not only speaking of the death and resurrection of Jesus here but also everything else he did, by example he did show us how to live properly with Love, the core of the Gospel. he asked us to repent and sin no more. If you do not know the teachings of Jesus , learn them fast. If your ignore them you cannot be saved.

It is undeniable that Jesus told us to Keep the Commandments and live by them. Doing so is according to Jesus A REQUIREMENT for eternal life, Jesus said so, you better learn this and fast the door will be shut soon and it will be too late.

I always remember Jesus words, when people want us to focus on that teaching and not Paul for example. Jesus told his disciples there was much more he wanted to teach them, more than they could now bear, but when the Spirit of truth came he would guide them into all truth. And so, Jesus words in the gospels can be understood without the indwelling Holy Spirit, what followed in the Apostles letters, including Paul's letters could not be, for they had the indwelling spirit, and wrote to those who had also received it.

Those with the indwelling Holy Spirit leading them into truth, should understand Paul's words, and see, with discernment he taught how to live a much holier life, for:
The power of sin is the law 1Cor15:56

 

[JLB]

And BTW, I could recite word for word Rom7:7-11 of my testimony when I responded to an altar call at the age of ten. Because, I tried to attain to Heaven as did Saul the Pharisee, so I can speak of conviction and personal experience, I repeat, you do not understand Paul's core message

He who says, “I know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 2:4

 

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Those with the indwelling Holy Spirit leading them into truth, should understand Paul's words, and see, with discernment he taught how to live a much holier life, for:

He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son. But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”
Revelation 21:7-8


Do you believe all liars will be sent to the lake of fire?