Do the Ten Commandments still apply under the new covenant today?

[HealthyShape]

The use of the word one implies the instance of something doing something in Hebrew and the same in Greek. This is not like English where one does not necessarily imply an action.

I was talking about using Hebraisms instead of English, if he is doing it because he thinks it is holier or something.

 

[Grailhunter]

LOL what? Do not be childish and react normally or do not answer at all.

I told you the truth.....you can check it out yourself.

 

[HealthyShape]

I told you the truth.....you can check it out yourself.

I understand Greek and you told me nonsense.

 

[Grailhunter]

I understand Greek and you told me nonsense.

LOL Not enough.
No reason to debate check it out yourself.
Notice that no one in Greek history is named Iésous unless they are a doctor.

 

[HealthyShape]

LOL Not enough.
No reason to debate check it out yourself.
Notice that no one in Greek history is named Iésous unless they are a doctor.

Ἰησοῦς in the New Testament is the Greek form of the name of our Savior, I have no idea what you are trying to create here.

If you do not believe me, go to biblehub.com, search for "Jesus" and check the Greek.

 

[Grailhunter]

Ἰησοῦς in the New Testament is the Greek form of the name of our Savior, I have no idea what you are trying to create here.

If you do not believe me, go to biblehub.com, search for "Jesus" and check the Greek.

Christians deserve to know the truth.
Dig deeper.

 

[HealthyShape]

Christians deserve to know the truth.
Dig deeper.

We do. So do not spread nonsense, here.

 

[Grailhunter]

We do. So do not spread nonsense, here.

Do you think it is common sense that Miriam would give her Son a Greek name.
Turn on brain.

 

[HealthyShape]

Do you think it is common sense that Miriam would give her Son a Greek name.
Turn on brain.

Being rude will not help you. Nobody claimed that Mary gave Jesus a Greek name. I was asking you why you are using Hebraisms (Yeshua, Yahweh) instead of English, when even the New Testament does not use Hebraisms. If you think it is holier or something. And you have begun to create all this web of nonsense.

 

[Grailhunter]

Being rude will not help you. Nobody claimed that Mary gave Jesus a Greek name. I was asking you why you are using Hebraisms (Yeshua, Yahweh) instead of English, when even the New Testament does not use Hebraisms. If you think it is holier or something. And you have begun to create all this web of nonsense.

Yahweh, Yeshua, Miriam, Yob, Yacob,.....why not use their real names.

 

[HealthyShape]

Yahweh, Yeshua, Miriam, Yob, Yacob,.....why not use their real names.

Because names are not "less real" when customized to the language we speak in. The New Testament gave us this example and we should follow it.

 

[Grailhunter]

Because names are not "less real" when customized to the language we speak in. The New Testament gave us this example and we should follow it.

No J's in the Old or New Testament.

 

[HealthyShape]

No J's in the Old or New Testament.

Open any English translation and you will see a lot of "J's". Greek does not have "J", so they did not use it. These are just distractions from the substance.

 

[Grailhunter]

Open any English translation and you will see a lot of "J's". Greek does not have "J", so they did not use it. These are just distractions from the substance.

I am not talking about translations.....I am talking about scriptures.
Accuracy is substance. Why not call the characters of the scriptures by their names.
You can call them whatever you want, as a Theologian I am into accuracy.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Begotten is used in John 3:16...and yet we know that Jesus was NOT created.

That's speaking of Jesus coming in to a physical body here on earth.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

God's Word was never "begotten" or "created" by God.

But, the flesh Body the Word took upon Himself to become flesh was begotten and created by God.

Where does the NT state that Paul was not executed by the Romans??

Where does the NT state that Paul WAS executed by the Romans??

theological word

Theology is code for what man "thinks" he thought God said and what he "thinks" God is like based on man looking from a position of blindness which is nothing my than guessing.

They smart ones go directly to God's Word so they can know the Lord personally what He has said and what He is like

Sadly most people claiming to be Christians today are really slow in that they take the word of what their favorite preacher or religious figure and believes what they are told to believe and if they even read the Bible they do so thru the thick religious glasses they have been indoctrinated with the point of view of their favorite preacher or religious figure

Sadly the joke is on them because their favorite preacher or religious figure is corrupt!

If they accepted the warnings of the Lord in His Word about the end times they would know this but they don't so they don't.

 

[Brakelite]

Indeed, I went to a church on a Saturday for a while to please a friend. A woman turned up for church each week immaculately dressed with a bible tucked under her arm. She kept repeating ''You must obey the TC'' A while later I found out she was having multiple affairs, some overlapping. I said to her one day:
''How can you do that, your transgressing the TC''
She shrugged her shoulders and replied:
'No ones perfect and all sin is equal''
Good grief, I couldnt go to a church if I was having one affair, let alone multiple

BEGOTTEN
does NOT
mean CREATED.

That word should be ELIMINATED from theological language but I sometimes slip and use it myself.

Begotten is used in John 3:16...and yet we know that Jesus was NOT created.

Here is the best explanation of the word that I've come across....
source: Gemini


In theology, begotten means to bring forth something of the same nature as oneself, not to create or make it, signifying Jesus' unique, eternal, divine origin from God the Father, distinct from created beings, as affirmed in the Nicene Creed's "begotten, not made" phrase, emphasizing He shares God's substance, not just a lesser created status.

Key Meanings & Distinctions

• Not Created (Made): Unlike a chair made by a craftsman, Jesus is "begotten," meaning He shares the divine substance and nature of the Father, rather than being a created entity.
• Of the Same Kind: A father begets a son (human); a bird begets birds; God the Father begets God the Son. What God begets is God, affirming Christ's divinity.
• Eternal Generation: Jesus' begetting by the Father is outside of time, an eternal relationship where the Son always exists, unlike creatures who have a temporal beginning.
• Unique Relationship: While believers are "children of God," Jesus is uniquely the "only begotten" (Greek: monogenes), meaning unique in kind, not just the first or only one.
• Nicene Creed: The phrase "begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father" refutes Arianism (which claimed Jesus was a created being) and asserts Jesus' co-eternality and co-equality with the Father.

Examples in Scripture & Creed

• Nicene Creed: "begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father".
• John 3:16: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son...".
• Acts 13:33: "Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee" (referring to resurrection).

Agreed.

Agree with much of what you say here, until your statement that Jesus was eternal in the past. This contradicts His being begotten.
Now I agree with you regarding Him having been begotten, brought forth of the Father, of the same nature and character....kind begetting kind. I liken it to the mountain in Daniel 2. A Rock came forth of the mountain, cut out with hands. That rock is of the fact came material and nature as the mountain, was there in the mountain for a long as the mountain existed, but after being cut out... brought forth... begotten... began an independent existence as a distinct separate personality, while retaining all the prerogatives of mountain nature... divinity.
All the above took place prior to creation. The Father was prime Creator but did so through and for His Son. The Son received all things, including life, authority, and power, from His Father, and was always and still is, subordinate to His Father. Yet by nature and inheritance, still God and equal to the Father in all things except rank. The Holy Spirit belongs to both Father and Son, and is shared by both.

 

[Button]

I don't debate history too much, you can look it up yourself.
Find Jewish-Christian writings after the 1st century.
Name a Jewish-Christian after the 1st century.
Find twelve Apostles after the 1st century.
Find how the Jewish-Christians and Gentile-Christians got along.

After the first century, Jewish Christian writings continued with early Church Fathers (Clement, Origen, Jerome) documenting Jewish-Christian Gospels (like Matthew's Hebrew/Aramaic versions, Epiphanius), alongside broader Christian texts (Epistles of James, Peter, John, Jude), rabbinic works like the Mishnah/Gemara, and non-canonical works such as Gnostic Gospels, all reflecting a divergence from mainstream Judaism post-Temple destruction. Key themes involved defining the "true Israel," interpreting the Torah, and distinguishing Christian identity from Judaism, often with growing emphasis on supersessionism

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[Grailhunter]

After the first century, Jewish Christian writings continued with early Church Fathers (Clement, Origen, Jerome) documenting Jewish-Christian Gospels

LOL Love to know why you think Clement, Origen, and Jerome were Jewish-Christian writers. Go ahead and amuse me.

 

[LoveYeshua]

I don't debate history too much, you can look it up yourself.
Find Jewish-Christian writings after the 1st century.
Name a Jewish-Christian after the 1st century.
Find twelve Apostles after the 1st century.
Find how the Jewish-Christians and Gentile-Christians got along.

I did lookit up, you have access to all this info today, many early christian works are available through universities religious studies on line libraries many are free to access just have to register to one of them. its fast an efficient.

 

[LoveYeshua]

LOL Love to know why you think Clement, Origen, and Jerome were Jewish-Christian writers. Go ahead and amuse me.

youre funny