King Jesus will return at the end of this temporal age and then deliver His kingdom to God the Father

[Rockerduck]

How long has the spirit of Christ been in the world?

Since the first Born again believers at Pentecost. Gal. 2:20-For I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I who live, bur Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.

 

[Triumph1300]

Long before Pentecost.
He existed in the beginning because Jesus is eternal; He was not created in the beginning but is co-Creator.

 

[rwb]

How long has the spirit of Christ been in the world?

From creation God, the Holy Spirit has been with His people in the world. Before Pentecost the Spirit dwelt with His people of faith, and after Pentecost Christ sent His Spirit to be in His people of faith. Before Pentecost the Spirit often came and went upon chosen people of Old. But after Pentecost the Spirit comes upon people of faith, promising to abide with His people for ever.

Genesis 1:2 (KJV) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

John 14:16-17 (KJV) And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

 

[Rockerduck]

From creation God, the Holy Spirit has been with His people in the world. Before Pentecost the Spirit dwelt with His people of faith, and after Pentecost Christ sent His Spirit to be in His people of faith. Before Pentecost the Spirit often came and went upon chosen people of Old. But after Pentecost the Spirit comes upon people of faith, promising to abide with His people for ever.

Genesis 1:2 (KJV) And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

John 14:16-17 (KJV) And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

When was the Holy Spirit called the Spirit of Christ in the Old Testament? Only in the New Testament. Acts 16:7

 

[rwb]

When was the Holy Spirit called the Spirit of Christ in the Old Testament? Only in the New Testament. Acts 16:7

Are you implying they are not one and the same Holy Spirit?

 

[Rockerduck]

Are you implying they are not one and the same Holy Spirit?

No. I replied to the Button's question specifically the title "Spirit of Christ". The Trinity has always existed. The Holy Ghost was never referred to as the Spirit of Christ in the OT. In fact, John 14:16-17 Jesus calls the Holy Spirit the "Spirit of Truth", also never referred to in the OT.

 

[rwb]

No. I replied to the Button's question specifically the title "Spirit of Christ". The Trinity has always existed. The Holy Ghost was never referred to as the Spirit of Christ in the OT. In fact, John 14:16-17 Jesus calls the Holy Spirit the "Spirit of Truth", also never referred to in the OT.

1 John 5:6-8 (KJV) This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Matthew 3:16 (KJV) And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

John 1:33 (KJV) And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:33 (KJV) Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

One God, three identities!

 

[rwb]

No. I replied to the Button's question specifically the title "Spirit of Christ". The Trinity has always existed. The Holy Ghost was never referred to as the Spirit of Christ in the OT. In fact, John 14:16-17 Jesus calls the Holy Spirit the "Spirit of Truth", also never referred to in the OT.

The Old Testament refers often to the "Spirit of the Lord."

 

[Zao is life]

It tells me that once He delivers the kingdom to the Father He will then reign for eternity in the eternal new heavens and new earth while being subject to the Father (1 Cor 15:22-28). At the time when He delivers the kingdom to the Father the last enemy, death, will be destroyed (1 Cor 15:26), which shows that eternity will be ushered in at that point.

Agreed. What will happen to those who refused the mark of the beast in the days that immediately preceded the return of Christ?

 

[Rockerduck]

1 John 5:6-8 (KJV) This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

Matthew 3:16 (KJV) And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

John 1:33 (KJV) And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:33 (KJV) Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

One God, three identities!

To clarify, there is only one Holy Spirit. Now, we are talking about names, and you just made my point. All in the New Testament are those names. Even Holy Ghost is a New Testament name.

 

[Rockerduck]

The Old Testament refers often to the "Spirit of the Lord."

That is true, and the Spirit rested on him.

 

[Button]

The Old Testament refers often to the "Spirit of the Lord."

Isaiah 11:2
And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord.

The Old Testament tells us God is Holy and a Spirit. I don't think "Holy Spirit" is a stretch.

 

[Rockerduck]

Isaiah 11:2
And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord.

The Old Testament tells us God is Holy and a Spirit. I don't think "Holy Spirit" is a stretch.

Isaiah 11:2 are all the traits of the Holy Spirit and each of us that receive HIM. The Holy Spirit gave me that scripture and told me to trust in it.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Agreed. What will happen to those who refused the mark of the beast in the days that immediately preceded the return of Christ?

That's not really a valid question to ask me since I likely don't have the same understanding of the beast and the mark of the beast as you do. I believe the mark of the beast has been around a long time and you probably only see it as a future thing. Can you explain why you are asking me this question and how it relates to what I said about Jesus delivering the kingdom to the Father at which point eternity will be ushered in?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

After Messiah arrived there was suppose to be peace ,according to the Messianic prophecy.

Which prophecy are you referring to exactly? He certainly has brought peace to those who belong to Him.

Acts 10:36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.

Romans 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

Consider how the world is today. How does King Jesus be said to be responsible for this as sovereign of the world?

You clearly have no understanding of what it means for Jesus to be sovereign. Do you not think that God has been sovereign over the world from the beginning when He created it? For Him to be sovereign, does that require Him to control everything that happens? No. Evil things happen only because He allows them to happen. He can stop any of it from happening if He wanted to, but that's not His will.

Also, why didn't you answer my questions? Do you have trouble accepting some of the scriptures that you read? I'll try again. Do you believe that all authority in heaven and earth was given to Jesus after His resurrection as He said it was (Matthew 28:18)? Do you believe that He reigns at the right hand of the Father in heaven "far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named" right now with "all things under His feet", as Paul said in Ephesians 1:19-22?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

How long has the spirit of Christ been in the world?

Since the world began.

1 Corinthians 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

When was the Holy Spirit called the Spirit of Christ in the Old Testament? Only in the New Testament. Acts 16:7

The Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Christ are the same Spirit, so it doesn't matter if the Holy Spirit was referred to as "The Spirit of Christ" in the Old Testament or not. Any reference to the Holy Spirit is a reference to the Spirit of Christ because those are two different ways of referring to the Spirit of God.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

To clarify, there is only one Holy Spirit. Now, we are talking about names, and you just made my point. All in the New Testament are those names. Even Holy Ghost is a New Testament name.

So what? What is your point? All of those names refer to the same Spirit of God.

 

[Button]

Which prophecy are you referring to exactly? He certainly has brought peace to those who belong to Him.

Isaiah 2:4, Isaiah 11:6-9, and Micah 4:3.

Acts 10:36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.

Romans 5:1 Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,

You clearly have no understanding of what it means for Jesus to be sovereign.

Not true.

Do you not think that God has been sovereign over the world from the beginning when He created it?

Which leads back to my question.

For Him to be sovereign, does that require Him to control everything that happens? No.

Yes.

Evil things happen only because He allows them to happen. He can stop any of it from happening if He wanted to, but that's not His will.

There you go.

Also, why didn't you answer my questions? Do you have trouble accepting some of the scriptures that you read? I'll try again. Do you believe that all authority in heaven and earth was given to Jesus after His resurrection as He said it was (Matthew 28:18)? Do you believe that He reigns at the right hand of the Father in heaven "far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named" right now with "all things under His feet", as Paul said in Ephesians 1:19-22?

Jesus was,is,God. What's that tell you?

Also,if you can't speak without condescension,please don't reply to me.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Yes.

If God has to control everything in order to be sovereign, then He has never been sovereign. The correct answer to my question is no. He does not have to control everything to be sovereign. That is the case for Jesus as well.

There you go.

God allowing things to happen is not a case of Him controlling what happens. He allows people to make choices without dictating everything that happens.

Jesus was,is,God. What's that tell you?

It tells me that since God didn't need to dictate everything that happens in order to be sovereign, that is the case for Jesus as well.