You have my DEEP sympathy!
Then why did Jesus warn us several times? Tell us what Jesus said about Hell. Don't know?
What's More Important Than Escaping ETERNAL Hell Fire?
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Taken
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“They” is “key”.
“Forever Torment”… Only Applies to that which IS “Alive Forever”.
Humans…
Have Body LIFE… Blood
Have Soul LIFE…. Gods Breath
Have Natural Spirit Life… Hearts Truth.
* Blood Body Life Dies.
* Soul Life “remains”, Alive as long as Gods Breath “remains” in the Soul.
* Nature Spirit Life, “dies” with the Body.
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“THEY”…who ARE SAVED…
Body Blood Life Dies.
Soul Life REMAINS with Gods Breath LIFE.
Spirit Life IS “Reborn” supernaturally With Forever Life from Gods Seed.
A NEW Body (without Blood) IS Raised Up.
“THEY” …who are “NOT” sav-ED.
* Body Blood Life Dies. Body rots.
* Soul Life “Remains” in the Soul”
* The Living Soul, IS Sent to Hell.
* In Hell, that Living Soul Suffers Torments.
* The natural Spirit dies with Body.
Regarding Humans…
The ONLY thing suffering in Hell IS Living Souls.
End of Humans…
* Dead bloodless Body’s
And
* Dead Natural (Truth) spirit’s
And
*** God “REMOVES” His LIFE, FROM the Soul…
“THEY”….
LIFELESS, body, soul, spirit…
Thrown INTO the Lake of Fire.
What PART of a Vessel WITHOUT LIFE, can Suffer Anything?
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“ONLY” that which “Has Forever Life Can Suffer Forever”…
“Angels “ARE” Spirits.”
“ “Can NOT Die”
“”THEY” (Angels AGAINST God).
SHALL remain ALIVE, IN the Lake of Fire, IN Torments Forever”.
What Does “THAT”…”THEY”…(fallen Angels) have to DO With “Dead Completely (body, soul, spirit) Humans”?
Nothing.
Glory to God,
Taken
Taken
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“US” humans…
Shall bodily die.
“Unsaved” SOULS Departed (from dead body / vessels) With Life (Gods Breath)
SHALL EXPERIENCE…Torments IN Hell…
Until Judgement Day.
Gods Offering… IS TO SAVE mens SOULS.
Saved SOULS, will NOT EVER Suffer Torments IN Hell.
God does NOT want mens Souls to Suffer Torments in Hell.
And THAT ^^^^ is WHYGod “WARNS” humans…
A warning before “inevitable” Disaster.
Glory to God,
Taken
And Jesus said BILLIONS of humans will suffer the exact same fate as the Devil and his angels! You just made a bunch of comments with ZERO Scripture.
Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
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Taken
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Taken
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Ecc 9:
[5] For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
How does a Dead Body, lifeless soul, Dead natural spirit…suffer ANY thing in the Lake of Fire?
Why would Jesus warn us several times of the EVERLASTING Fire? He doesn't make up horror stories.
Luke 16:22-28 The rich man died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hell, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Taken
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Pay attention…
Matt. 25:
[41] Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
It is the Fire that is Everlasting.
That Fire…was prepared FOR (Alive Spirits… expressly Alive Spirits AGANST God…
AKA the devil and “his” angels.)
Luke 16:
22 The rich man died and was buried.
23 And being in torments in Hell, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
The Rich mans body and natural spirit (ie. Truth (unbelief) in his heart DIED.
The Rich mans departed ALIVE (unsaved) SOUL, was and IS experiencing the torments of hell.
Regarding Humans:
The Torments of Hell…is a WHAT a departed Alive unsave-ED Soul experiences.
A Living SOUL (IN a mans Living Body) IS the “catalyst”… that activates the Mans BODYS “Communicative Senses to Function”…
A Living Soul IN an Alive Body Born Body:
* Eyes……….See
* Ears……....Hear
* Nose………Smells
* Tongue…..Tastes
* Mouth…….utters Sounds
* Flesh………Feels Touch
* Emotions..Feel Expressions
You are an Alive Born Body…
You HAVE an Alive Soul IN Your Body…
You EXPERIENCE “Communicative” Senses.
WHEN a mans BODY dies…
The Living SOUL “departs out of” the DEAD BODY.
The “Living SOUL” continues Living, AND experiencing “Communicative Senses”.
* departed SAVED SOULS… experience calm, beauty, peace, joy, With God, IN Heaven.
* departed UN-sav-ED SOULS…experience “extreme”: heat, thirst, smelling only stench, utters screams, crying, and hearing screams of agony, darkness (with only flames of light), nothing of beauty to see…
With-OUT God.
This IS Hell.
(THIS IS NOT the Lake of Fire)
This Hell IS TEMPORARY
The (mans) LIFE in These UN-Saved SOULS…
IS Temporary
The Rich man??? His Body Dead, for some
2,000 + Years. His Living Departed (unsaved) Soul has BEEN experiencing Hell for some 2,000 + years. (along With All Other UN-SAVED Souls… from the Beginning of the creation of Man-KIND.)
Judgement DAY…(of the UN-Saved Souls) Terminates… THIS Temporary Hell.
The UN- Saved Souls LIFE (Gods Breath), returns TO God.
Regarding Mankind;
That lifeless Soul,
That lifeless Body,
That lifeless natural (hearts truth) Spirit…
Is thrown INTO the Lake of Fire.
The “Temporary” Hell is “swallowed up”…(exists no more)…IN Gods Victory over Death.
The deeper Pit, ie. Lake of Eternal burning Fire…WILL receive…
* The Devil (who IS a spirit that can not die)
* The devils angels (also spirits that can not die)
* The false Prophet ( also a spirit / having masqueraded “AS” a human man on Earth.
(remembering All angels “are” spirits AND have the power to Appear in Bodys in the Likeness “AS” human men).
* The Lifeless Bodys, souls, natural spirits of humans.
A vessel (body, soul, spirit) of man…withOUT
Life IN that vessel….
Can NOT, Does NOT…see, hear, smell. taste, utter sounds, feel, know ANYTHING.
Human men for Centuries have been born and died….and the cycle continues.
A plethora of human men
* Have Heard then Rejected Belief IN God…
* Have Bodily Lived as they pleased…
* Have Heard and Learned and Seen, dead Bodys … “suffering” Nothing.
* Have openly Declared…non- Belief, no big deal when their body Dies…They will experience nothingness.
* ARE utterly Ignorant their living soul departs their dead body and “continues” living…”experiencing”…horrendous, unbearable torments. Separated from God…
With no option left to “forever be with Him”, in calm, comfort, beauty, peace, joy.
Their … departed unsaved living soul could “experience” a day or centuries… of the Torments IN Hell…without (another as they had while a living Body) a Saving Option Offering from God.
Glory to God,
Taken
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In his heart died? It clearly says HE DIED, HE was in torments in Hell, HE saw Abraham, HE cried and begged for mercy, HE said HE was tormented in the fire.
He was quite alive!
I honestly don't understand your point. "Tormented day and night FOREVER", absolute proof of eternal punishment in Hell Fire!
And as YOU admitted humans will suffer the exact same fate.
"Matt. 25:
[41] Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:"
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Beebster
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Burning in Hell is "hilarious" to you? You have a serious problem!
Prove it's a parable. It isn't. Parables do not use literal Biblical people, Abraham, Moses, Lazarus ...
Taken
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Jack - if you do Not FIRST Understand the Creation AND Making of a TRIUNE mankind of Being…
How do EXPECT to Understand the …
The FATE of and WHY ( of EACH PART) your Own TRIUNE Being?
ManKIND… Triune
* Body Created from Dust, it’s Life Blood
* Body Given A Soul, it’s Life Gods Breath
* Natural spirit. Mans Truth IN his Heart.
ManKIND Offered, an Eternal Life
Body, “reMADE)
Soul, Forgiven, MADE restored to GOOD (as it was when Given to the Body), called Saved.
Natural spirit (mans natural Belief / Truth in his Heart… New Supernatural For Ever Living, Re-Born of Gods SEED, And Given Gods Supernatural Truth.
The Offering From God… IS to …
MAKE the Natural MAN… Having become …
Body. Soul, Natural Spirit CORRUPTED…
Forgiven… and MADE ONCE and FOREVER, by the POWER of God….KEPT ONCE and Forever, by the Power of God…
Body, Soul, Spirit…of that such Man…
Wholly, Whole, Holy.
Satisfactorily MADE to Forever Live … WITH The Lord God Almighty, IN His Glorious Peaceful, Beautiful Kingdom.
Glory to God,
Taken
So why did Jesus warn us of the EVERLASTING fire several times? And He did say EVERLASTING!
Jesus didn't make up horror stories. He told us TRUTH!
Billions of humans will burn in Hell FOREVER who don't believe in Hell. And anyone who convinces people there is no eternal Hell Fire will be there with them.
Beebster
Active Member
Keep telling yourself that lie.
What did the rich man do wrong that landed him in hades Jack?
Jesus lied??? I quoted Jesus! Just because Satan told you it's a parable doesn't make it true. Satan wants your company in Hell.
Ask God. He sent the rich man to Hell Fire.
