WWJD with LGBTQ?

[GodsGrace]

Are you comfortable telling a male with feminine features and a female with masculine features that Satan made them that way?

Are YOU comfortable telling them GOD made them that way?

 

[St. SteVen]

You DO tend not to reply to my posts.
It would be number 1013 where I asked if you believe God is the creator of evil.

Are you unable to reply?
You seem to be having a nice conovo with @shepherdsword .

Well, is God the creator of evil?

You did make this statement and it needs to be addressed.

I had you on IGNORE due to previous interactions.
Now you are off IGNORE.

In my view God is sovereign over all and the creator of everything.
Though God may not have specifically created evil, He did create the environment for it.
Some would point to the OT and say God brought terrible evil on people.

Humans are responsible for the evil acts they commit.
But God is ultimately responsible for allowing it to happen.

 

[St. SteVen]

Are YOU comfortable telling them GOD made them that way?

Yes.

 

[St. SteVen]

Are YOU comfortable telling them GOD made them that way?

Yes.
I think the path to understanding and healing needs to start there.
They have to live with the way they are.
How can you do that if you believe that Satan made you that way?

 

[Button]

But... There are many churches who accept LGBTQ... I would look one up and recommend it if my council was deemed no good. My recommendations would be to seek the council and Holy Spirit of God...

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. - Galatians 5

A church that welcomes LGBTQ and ministers to them that their behavior is normal and approved by God is not only openly Apostate,but is responsible for LGBTQ under their influence going to Hell. Which means wilful premeditated murder via orchestrating their second death.

Those type churches are not of Christ. In fact,they're Satanic.
That could be compounded by the wilful intent to put up a face of acceptance in order to preach to LGBTQ members a different gospel so to insure their sins are punished exactly so.

While the rest of the congregation who are not LGBTQ are nurtured through pastoral intent,the actual Gospel.

Beware those,anywhere at all,who claim a little bit of sin is perfectly OK and tolerable,when God calls it,abomination.

 

[St. SteVen]

A church that welcomes LGBTQ and ministers to them that their behavior is normal and approved by God is not only openly Apostate,but is responsible for LGBTQ under their influence going to Hell. Which means wilful premeditated murder via orchestrating their second death.

Those type churches are not of Christ. In fact,they're Satanic.
That could be compounded by the wilful intent to put up a face of acceptance in order to preach to LGBTQ members a different gospel so to insure their sins are punished exactly so.

While the rest of the congregation who are not LGBTQ are nurtured through pastoral intent,the actual Gospel.

Beware those,anywhere at all,who claim a little bit of sin is perfectly OK and tolerable,when God calls it,abomination.

There are churches that recognize gay (gender diverse) members but are clear that acting on those impulses is a sin.

 

[Button]

Yes.
I think the path to understanding and healing needs to start there.
They have to live with the way they are.
How can you do that if you believe that Satan made you that way?

Satan is not a creator. He is a destroyer.

Romans 9
22 What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath—prepared for destruction? 23 What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory— 24 even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but also from the Gentiles? 25 As he says in Hosea:

“I will call them ‘my people’ who are not my people;
and I will call her ‘my loved one’ who is not my loved one,”

26 and,“In the very place where it was said to them,
‘You are not my people,’
there they will be called ‘children of the living God.’”

 

[Button]

There are churches that recognize gay (gender diverse) members but are clear that acting on those impulses is a sin.

They have to be open and honest,yes.

 

[rockytopva]

A church that welcomes LGBTQ and ministers to them that their behavior is normal and approved by God is not only openly Apostate,but is responsible for LGBTQ under their influence going to Hell. Which means wilful premeditated murder via orchestrating their second death.

Those type churches are not of Christ. In fact,they're Satanic.
That could be compounded by the wilful intent to put up a face of acceptance in order to preach to LGBTQ members a different gospel so to insure their sins are punished exactly so.

While the rest of the congregation who are not LGBTQ are nurtured through pastoral intent,the actual Gospel.

Beware those,anywhere at all,who claim a little bit of sin is perfectly OK and tolerable,when God calls it,abomination.

Flee fornication... - 1 Corinthians 6:18

I agree! It is like... Run for your lives!

 

[St. SteVen]

Satan is not a creator. He is a destroyer.

Would that be true if God didn't allow it?

 

[Button]

Would that be true if God didn't allow it?

No.
Which is why I posted the passage in Romans 9.

 

[shepherdsword]

Should we blame genetic differences on the devil?
Red hair seems pretty suspicious. - LOL

Red hair doesn't send you to the lake of fire...homosexuality does.

 

[St. SteVen]

Red hair doesn't send you to the lake of fire...homosexuality does.

Does the punishment fit the crime?
Sounds pretty harsh to me. Burn forever?
What kind of God would do that?

 

[rockytopva]

The need of repentance...

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.
21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.
22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds. - Revelation 2

If there is no punishment why the need of repentance?

 

[Button]

Does the punishment fit the crime?
Sounds pretty harsh to me. Burn forever?
What kind of God would do that?

The God that burned Sodom and Gomorrah alive? Drowned the world population. Killed the first born in every Egyptian home. Cut babies from their mother's wombs. Bashed babies on the rocks.
Formulated a chemical drink for the temple authorities to administer because that would cause an abortion to occur in a married Jewish woman accused of adultery.

 

[St. SteVen]

The God that burned Sodom and Gomorrah alive? Drowned the world population. Killed the first born in every Egyptian home. Cut babies from their mother's wombs. Bashed babies on the rocks.
Formulated a chemical drink for the temple authorities to administer because that would cause an abortion to occur in a married Jewish woman accused of adultery.

So, your God is a tyrant? (pity)

 

[St. SteVen]

If there is no punishment why the need of repentance?

What good is repentance if it is in response to extortion?

 

[Button]

So, your God is a tyrant? (pity)

Who's your god?

 

[St. SteVen]

Who's your god?

You earned IGNORE for that one.

 

[shepherdsword]

Does the punishment fit the crime?
Sounds pretty harsh to me. Burn forever?

If a Holy and Righteous God deems it so.

What kind of God would do that?

One that became flesh and died for our sins to save us from such a fate. Are you missing that point in your judgement of the Holy one?