Saved, what is it & why the confusion as to how ?

[amigo de christo]

Already KNOW



Already Shared I DO.



Crucified With Jesus’ body, Yet am Living.



Already eternally Alive.



That NOT the ONLY HOPE.

They IN Christ IS THE ONLY “ASSURED” Way an alive man Knows his Salvation IS “SECURE”.

Israel continues TO Hope and Wait for God to Save His People ISRAEL.



Don’t appreciate your attempt to include “me”, in “your” whatever, whenever participation in ecumenical views.

everything was great , till near the end .
NO mi lady , JESUS IS THE ONLY HOPE one has .
And israel does continue to wait and hope for god to save his people . But notice its god , NOT GOD .
because any jew that rejects JESUS IS THE CHRIST , oh they are waiting all right , but just like the christ rejecting g entiles
ITS ON THE wrong god and wrong messiah . That one cometh to d estory through peace .
THEY just like many others are being set up FOr the big lie of anti ch rist and end time beast anti christ digital we are one
system . And what i say to one i say to all , GET everyone out of anything connected to this ecumeincal movement .

 

[soberxp]

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""So, ask yourself: Do you believe everything Jesus Christ said? And how can you distinguish whether the words come from Jesus Christ or from something else?""
I believe GOD is powerful enough to ensure the Bible we have today is not from 'something else'

You get me wrong about it, I didn't mean the Bible is something else.

I mean that when false Christ went to someone and can we distinguish whether the words come from Jesus Christ or from something else? Because we believe in Jesus Christ at the time.

 

[amigo de christo]

It's due to YOUR dumb statement that you made without checking out what you were even talking about.

You like arguing BB.
This is not very Christianly of you.

Go ahead....
argue some more.

this people is in dire danger . I plead with us all , get them out of anything ecumeincal an d now .
ITS all a set up , and its peace be not OF GOD
but of another . For the love of all that is pure and holy , get th em out of it . we must return
to the scriptures for to learn for ourselves . We are much closer to the end than many realize .
And that which is of anti ch rist has come to merge the nations , tribes , religoins
the jew and the gentile to be as one common people with one common goal that it cliams and WILL claim
shall usher in peace upon earth . And it cometh with THE DIG ITAL SYSTEM to cause all both small and great
poor and rich , free and bond for to recieve a mark .
AND NO man shall be able to buy or sell , LEST he do . ITS On the RISE .
and ecumeincalists the world over are leading thier people as one RIGHT TOO it and have NO IDEA they are .

 

[rvmb]

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[rvmb]

You get me wrong about it, I didn't mean the Bible is something else.

I mean that when false Christ went to someone and can we distinguish whether the words come from Jesus Christ or from something else? Because we believe in Jesus Christ at the time.

""You get me wrong about it, I didn't mean the Bible is something else."""
All good XP, sometimes people claim/imply that parts of the Bible are corrupt etc.
I then state, since GOD is all powerful, why would He allow His Bible to be corrupted in a way that tricks or leads believers into being unsaved ?

 

[soberxp]

""You get me wrong about it, I didn't mean the Bible is something else."""
All good XP, sometimes people claim/imply that parts of the Bible are corrupt etc.

Some Muslims claim that parts of the Bible have become corrupted, but have they really read and studied the Bible seriously?
I don't know if there are any other people who have made such a claim.
I believe that when these Muslims make such claims, they are actually preventing Muslims from reading and studying the Bible. Because the Quran acknowledges the Bible and Christians, these actions, in my opinion, are similar to the practices of the Pharisees.
The hypocritical and deceitful lawyers.

I then state, since GOD is all powerful, why would He allow His Bible to be corrupted in a way that tricks or leads believers into being unsaved ?

From my understanding of the teachings, it seems that God had already foreseen humanity from the very beginning, starting with the Tower of Babel.

 

[rvmb]

Some Muslims claim that parts of the Bible have become corrupted, but have they really read and studied the Bible seriously?
I don't know if there are any other people who have made such a claim.
I believe that when these Muslims make such claims, they are actually preventing Muslims from reading and studying the Bible. Because the Quran acknowledges the Bible and Christians, these actions, in my opinion, are similar to the practices of the Pharisees.
The hypocritical and deceitful lawyers.


From my understanding of the teachings, it seems that God had already foreseen humanity from the very beginning, starting with the Tower of Babel.

""Some Muslims claim that parts of the Bible have become corrupted,""
Trying to teach them otherwise is like trying to show a flat-earther the earth is a ball & not a pancake.
""it seems that God had already foreseen humanity from the very beginning, starting with the Tower of Babel.""
Being ALL-KNOWING I believe GOD foresaw humanity since before creation itself.

 

[Taken]

JESUS IS THE ONLY HOPE one has.

And israel does continue to wait and hope for god to save his people . But notice its god , NOT GOD .

Israel is Unique.
Via Gods Covenant;
God Saves Israel,
(After their Mortal bodily Death).

Gentiles are all others (Not Israel).
Via Gods Word;
Christ the Lord Saves those IN Christ
(Before their Mortal Bodily Death).

Per Total Population Ever Born…
Few “ARE” or “Shall be” Saved.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[amigo de christo]

Israel is Unique.
Via Gods Covenant;
God Saves Israel,
(After their Mortal bodily Death).

Gentiles are all others (Not Israel).
Via Gods Word;
Christ the Lord Saves those IN Christ
(Before their Mortal Bodily Death).

Per Total Population Ever Born…
Few “ARE” or “Shall be” Saved.

Glory to God,
Taken

someone got you mixed up dear sister .
oh you right about GOD saving ISRAEL .
but not the way you think .
the WORD did become flesh and the word was GOD
and HE sure did come to save ISRAEL .
but not all of israel is OF ISRAEL . as i wrote afore to you
the christ denying jews and christ deny gentiles , oh they are waiting upon the wrong god , and wrong messiah .
if you want ISRAEL Saved
DO as did paul , PREACH JESUS to them . cause no jew or gentile IS or can be saved by GOD without FAITH IN GOD .
And if ones faith be NOT IN JESUS THE CHRIST , then ITS A FACT there faith is NOT IN GOD .
I think them there teachers of dispens and whatever other isms ya been heeding have you messed up abit my friend .

 

[Moontan13]

If I were on the verge of commiting to Christ, do you think this sort of discussion is persuasive? Just STOP. Why do you guys make this harder than it is? Read some Francois Fenelon, then AW Tozer. Or just read the red letters in your red letter Bible. Jesus isn't talking about imperfect Christians, but workers of iniquity, those who actively practice their evil without repentance. Relax a bit, God has this and He has you. Bask a bit in the perfect peace God holds in his hand for you.

 

[amigo de christo]

If I were on the verge of commiting to Christ, do you think this sort of discussion is persuasive? Just STOP. Why do you guys make this harder than it is? Read some Francois Fenelon, then AW Tozer. Or just read the red letters in your red letter Bible. Jesus isn't talking about imperfect Christians, but workers of iniquity, those who actively practice their evil without repentance. Relax a bit, God has this and He has you. Bask a bit in the perfect peace God holds in his hand for you.

following another jesus and another gospel , wont save a christain who does so
anymore than the false religoins can save themselves .
May i make a serious suggest for us all today .
Time to , more than ever , preach JESUS and the absolute dire need to have had to beleive on HIM
and fast . cause i am seeing me one wacked out diverse rainbow gospel
that sure seems to cliam all religoins serve the same GOD we do
and that jesus is a minstir of sin that holds rainbows and hundred dollah bills .
THAT god and that jesus , OH it cant save squat .
Never forget that satan himself can quoate scrip , so HE can say GOD IS LOVE
but boy is he gonna make a huge sin accepting unbelief path b y means of his false love .
And beleive you me that broad road , IS buT DESTRUCTION . satan desires the death of all
so he gonna preach a love and a god that makes darn sure they end up in the lake of fire . HE is real sneaky , that one is .
but the sheep shall not heed him or his ecumeincal whore .

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Read some Francois Fenelon, then AW Tozer.

I'll pass. I like to read me some Jesus Christ!

He's the best selling Author ever in the history of the world and He actually knows what He's talking about and He always speaks Truth and never ever misses it.

These other guys pale in comparison so WHY read what someone thought God said when we can go to the directly to the Source???

God Saves Israel,
(After their Mortal bodily Death).

But only those that get born again.

Not even Israelites can get in to Heaven without being born again

Being ALL-KNOWING I believe GOD foresaw humanity since before creation itself.

Yessir, that's the fact jack!

 

[Ezra]

So when Jesus said ye must be baptized, you just stick your tongue out at Him and go na na na na??
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Yer diaper must be dirty View attachment 79940

nahh i just avoid foolish questions and fools o i m sorry did i say that

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

i just avoid foolish questions and fools o i m sorry did i say that

Yeah you were looking in the mirror when that slipped out

 

[Taken]

someone got you mixed up

You are not the END decider.

Bottom line…regarding ALL Humans…
Regardless of “Their LABELS”…by their own “self-labeling” or “others assigning Labels”….

He Whom is WITH or With-OUT God Forever…
IS Already Known BY God,
And
Such Preparations ( For They With and They with-OUT) Already Established.

Jesus Saves Whom His Father Gave to Him.
God Saves Whom He pleases.

Trust God has it Handled.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[GodsGrace]

this people is in dire danger . I plead with us all , get them out of anything ecumeincal an d now .
ITS all a set up , and its peace be not OF GOD
but of another . For the love of all that is pure and holy , get th em out of it . we must return
to the scriptures for to learn for ourselves . We are much closer to the end than many realize .
And that which is of anti ch rist has come to merge the nations , tribes , religoins
the jew and the gentile to be as one common people with one common goal that it cliams and WILL claim
shall usher in peace upon earth . And it cometh with THE DIG ITAL SYSTEM to cause all both small and great
poor and rich , free and bond for to recieve a mark .
AND NO man shall be able to buy or sell , LEST he do . ITS On the RISE .
and ecumeincalists the world over are leading thier people as one RIGHT TOO it and have NO IDEA they are .

Most times I don't even reply to that member.
If this is how Christans act...then I really would not want to be a Christian.
Better to ignore some folk.

 

[GodsGrace]

If I were on the verge of commiting to Christ, do you think this sort of discussion is persuasive? Just STOP. Why do you guys make this harder than it is? Read some Francois Fenelon, then AW Tozer. Or just read the red letters in your red letter Bible. Jesus isn't talking about imperfect Christians, but workers of iniquity, those who actively practice their evil without repentance. Relax a bit, God has this and He has you. Bask a bit in the perfect peace God holds in his hand for you.

Welcome to the forum Moontan.
( do you use moonscreen?)

This is the problem Moon
Some like to read those red words and take them literally and obey their Lord and Savior.

Some go to some church and believe what THAT particular church teaches.

Some like to sit at home and let the Holy Spirit guide them into all untruths because the NT is no easy to understand about everything.

Yes. I like your method...which will most probably end in correct theology.

And, I think it's important to post on these Forums because there's so much misinformation being posted,,,that it does have to be negated.

So please state those red words and keep emphasizing THEM, if you ever wish to post something.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Jesus Saves Whom His Father Gave to Him.

Is this a prelude to some teaching from the false doctrine of calvinism known as "limited atonement"

You know the false demonic claim that God wants most people to go to hell and He is causing most people to go to hell because he's mean like that and does not actually love the entire world as wee see in John 3:16?

I sure hope not as this would mean you are a false teacher.

 

[amigo de christo]

Most times I don't even reply to that member.
If this is how Christans act...then I really would not want to be a Christian.
Better to ignore some folk.

You mean you would not want to be like them .
Many lips do flap within the realm known as and called christendom .
But tell me if mice go and hide within a cookie jar
and hollers from within we are cookies
DO it make them a cookie .
Many can cliam to beleive on JESUS CHRIST
yet many walk quite contrary to How he walked .
Many can even cliam we sit under Christ and the apostels .
We are the one true church .
Again dont ya find it odd their le aders and many peoples
dont talk , dont act like they did .
Even a parrot can quoate scrips , but it dont mean the parrot understands them or that the parrot even sits under JESUS .
We have a battle my friend and my friends .
For many who lead this people have led them even farther into darkness than ever before . calling it LIGHT .
The only one i know that be of the darkness and yet can appear as an angel of light ,
IS the one we ought never to have followed into what he calleth light .
For if the light that is in thee be darkness , THEN great is that darkness . it be bible time in the building .

 

[amigo de christo]

Welcome to the forum Moontan.
( do you use moonscreen?)

This is the problem Moon
Some like to read those red words and take them literally and obey their Lord and Savior.

Some go to some church and believe what THAT particular church teaches.

Some like to sit at home and let the Holy Spirit guide them into all untruths because the NT is no easy to understand about everything.

Yes. I like your method...which will most probably end in correct theology.

And, I think it's important to post on these Forums because there's so much misinformation being posted,,,that it does have to be negated.

So please state those red words and keep emphasizing THEM, if you ever wish to post something.

Oh , indeed the sheep sure do feast upon the lo vely words of the Glorious LORD .
And they do , and they shall
continue to test all men and their doctrine and actions AGAINST such lovely words .
And for a quick reminder for us all
NOT a le tter of one apostel contradicted CHRIST
or one another . Its simply meat for the sheep . Now to them trenches and line the walls .
WE in the last hours and the sheep must make our last hour stand and point ONLY to CHRIST
And be feasting upon such holy GOD INSPIRED words in that bible .