Few are saved.

[PinSeeker]

Whoever is not born again of the Holy Spirit of God, all of such (though they believe) are not in the KoG, but are only running parallel to it. John 3:3-8.

As Rom. 8:9 says: "Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his".

Right, and if one is born again of the Spirit, regardless whether he or she is ethnically Jewish, he or she is a Jew, a Jew of God, of God's Israel. As Paul also says, "...no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God" (Romans 2:28-29).

Now...

Jesus is the FIRST born of that of a NEW Creature. The FIRST of a brand new SPIRITUAL race of beings who IS REALLY Eternal and Immortal.
Jesus NOW IS NOT Jew, Gentile, Male or Female!!!

"Jesus Christ the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of kings on earth" (Revelation 1:5)... firstborn in the same sense that David was as God said of him in Psalm 89:27 ~ "And I will make him the firstborn, the highest of the kings of the earth." David, as should be quickly pointed out, was the youngest of all his brothers. So 'firstborn' must mean something other than that, well, either David or Jesus was literally born first, the eldest. And the verses above should be good indicators of what 'firstborn' really means... Basically, it means preeminence. David was preeminent over Israel in the Old Testament. Jesus is preeminent over and King of God's Israel, which consists of Jew and Gentile... all those called by God and born again of the Spirit. Paul says it well in Colossians 1:15-20...

"(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities⁠ ~ all things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. And He is the head of the body, the church. He is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in everything He might be preeminent. For in Him all the fullness of God was pleased to dwell, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven, making peace by the blood of his cross."​

In view of this, it goes without saying, certainly, that Jesus was the firstborn in a far greater sense than David... king David was what we call a shadow, or type, of the greater reality to come, King Jesus. The whole of the Old Testament ~ Moses and all the prophets ~ is really about Jesus (Luke 16:29, 24:27, 44; John 1:45, 5:46; Acts 28:23). As the writer of Hebrews says, "Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days He has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also He created the world."

Grace and peace to all.

 

[stevesonthebay]

Yep that's what the devil does thru the tares is muddy the waters to turn people away from the simple and easy to understand scriptures they Lord has provided for mankind.

And I think the present time is a perfect condition with postmodernist relative thinking that Christ truth can be subverted in a sea of rationalisations, critical theories, woke morals, narratives and fake news.

Never has there been a time like this where a lie can be made a truth and a truth a lie. Its the perfect envionment of white noise that people cannot tell or hear Gods voice in the silence.

Go climb a mountain at night and sit on top and listen quietly. Be still and know God.

 

[Earburner]

And I think the present time is a perfect condition with postmodernist relative thinking that Christ truth can be subverted in a sea of rationalisations, critical theories, woke morals, narratives and fake news.

Never has there been a time like this where a lie can be made a truth and a truth a lie. Its the perfect envionment of white noise that people cannot tell or hear Gods voice in the silence.

Go climb a mountain at night and sit on top and listen quietly. Be still and know God.

I agree 100%. We ourselves are at the END of the LAST days as spoken of in
KJV Acts 2
[17] And it shall come to pass in the LAST days, saith God,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
KJV Heb. 1:1-2
[1] God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
[2] Hath in these LAST days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

> Did you catch that?
Yes, the Holy Spirit through Luke and Paul informed us all that the LAST days began upon Jesus first appearance.

TODAY, we ourselves are so much near the end of God's time of Grace, through faith on Jesus, that we are now looking at a very real situation of WW3 in the Euphrates region, as described in KJV Rev. 9:13-21, wherein the actual words are a literal date in time:
[15] And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

 Are there militaries that are capable of destroying 1/3 of men IN ONE HOUR??
YOU KNOW that there are!!!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

If Jesus is the one who decides then you have nothing of significance to say about the matter!

Right back at'cha homie!

You may as well log off now permanently

Go climb a mountain at night and sit on top and listen quietly. Be still and know God.

Which won't do much good for those that don't know what God said in His Written Word.

It's easy for the devil to deceive people that don't know God's Word

The devil is very religious you know. Just look at what he's doing thru the catholic "church"

 

[LoveYeshua]

Jesus did--he said these last days are the same as Noah's day--99.9% perished in Noah's day.

no this does not fit scripture at all, thus is what satan wants but God had a number in mind and when it is reached things will move fast.

 

[Taken]

Few are saved.

True.

Because Many are Not willing to reach out and TAKE a Gift offering they can Not see, hear, smell, taste, touch….and in some cases Because they can’t Show off, Brag, Display, make others Envious of Their Gift.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Because Many are Not willing to reach out and TAKE a Gift offering they can Not see, hear, smell, taste, touch….and in some cases Because they can’t Show off, Brag, Display, make others Envious of Their Gift.

I dunno man, them TV preachers sure are bragging and displaying their "righteousness"

 

[quietthinker]

Right back at'cha homie!

You may as well log off now permanently

Your mouth is fast and loose BBJ. You have yet to learn the meaning of maturity!

 

[stevesonthebay]

Which won't do much good for those that don't know what God said in His Written Word.

It's easy for the devil to deceive people that don't know God's Word

The devil is very religious you know. Just look at what he's doing thru the catholic "church"

Yeah I guess. But if they are really still and quiet and look at the billions of stars in the night sky. Then its hard to to know God. So long as they are very, very, very quiet lol.

When those decieving voices come just tell them to be quiet for a moment or two. You will know God I guarentee.

God said we all have knowledge of Him in what he has made. There is no better view of what He has made than on a mountain under the night sky. Mountians are always seen as related to God.

Even atheist astronauts come back with a sense of God.

 

[soberxp]

Mountians are always seen as related to God.

神仙

 

[Earburner]

Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.

So, according to you, "the breath of the Almighty" is merely oxygenated air?


So God created Adam and Adam created the rest of the human race?

Physical gender sure, but what about spiritual gender?
Take Christ for instance.
Does Christ have feminine attributes?

Peace.

If you think that the unsaved are permanently given a portion of God's Eternal Immortal being, that you call "a soul", then you must believe that even if they reject Jesus, they will continue to live eternally in an eternal place of torment that church- ianity calls Hell, to suffer forever and ever.

Q. So then, according to you, every person is only ALIVE because God gave to them a part of Himself, aka an eternal, immortal soul.
Therefore, for unsaved people to REMAIN alive in Hell, does God suffer with them, being Himself, who is their eternal, immortal soul?

BUT...if God takes away the immortal eternal soul, that he gave to man, how then can man remain ALIVE and suffer eternal torment in "Hell"??

 

[soberxp]

If you think that the unsaved are permanently given a portion of God's Eternal Immortal being, that you call "a soul", then you must believe that even if they reject Jesus, they will continue to live eternally in an eternal place of torment that church- ianity calls Hell, to suffer forever and ever.

Q. So then, according to you, every person is only ALIVE because God gave to them a part of Himself, aka an eternal, immortal soul.
Therefore, for unsaved people to REMAIN alive in Hell, does God suffer with them, being Himself, who is their eternal, immortal soul?

BUT...if God takes away the immortal eternal soul, that he gave to man, how then can man remain ALIVE and suffer eternal torment in "Hell"??

Forever suffer eternal torment in the earth where shall no water in the future. Great drought for the flesh and soul or spiritual.

 

[Beebster]

If you think that the unsaved are permanently given a portion of God's Eternal Immortal being, that you call "a soul", then you must believe that even if they reject Jesus, they will continue to live eternally in an eternal place of torment that church- ianity calls Hell, to suffer forever and ever.

Well, no I don't believe that at all and I'm not sure what gave you the idea that I do.
And, no I never called the "breath of life" a soul.
Furthermore, I don't believe in some "eternal place of torment."

Q. So then, according to you, every person is only ALIVE because God gave to them a part of Himself, aka an eternal, immortal soul.
Therefore, for unsaved people to REMAIN alive in Hell, does God suffer with them, being Himself, who is their eternal, immortal soul?

No, not according to me.
The reason people are alive is because God has life in him. It is that life in him that he gives to us that allows us to live.
Jesus didn't go around raising people from the dead by giving them C.P.R.
Man absolutely does not have an immortal soul.
Man dies and his body returns to dust (the earth).
The soul, you, your personality, your thoughts etc...are in hades, the miraculous state of death.
I say miraculous because when we are raised, all of our "self" which includes our character traits, our deeds, our life so to speak will be intact and ready to face judgment.
God has you in that state of death and will redeem you from that state of death.

 

[Earburner]

He actually is a Jew... when He returns He will rulefrom His Throne in Jerusalem which is in Israel

Do you hate and despise the Jews?

One cannot be a liberal in good standing unless they hate Jews and support killing babies and teaching children to be perverts.

You know, all the things satan enjoys and finds happiness in

As to how "the wisdom of men" in church- ianity have interpreted the Bible, the scriptures do not say anything about Jerusalem (which is now) as having any value towards God, or for God at all!!

Gal. 4
[21] Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?
[22] For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.
[23] But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.
[24] Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.
[25] For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
[26] But Jerusalem which is ABOVE is free, which is the mother of us all [who are of faith in Christ].

 

[Earburner]

Forever suffer eternal torment in the earth where shall no water in the future. Great drought for the flesh and soul or spiritual.

Please provide the Biblical reference of those words.
You are reading/interpreting the scriptures as a man who does not have the Holy Spirit of God.
Do you thoroughly understand all of 1 Cor. ch. 2?

 

[soberxp]

Please provide the Biblical reference of those words.
You are reading/interpreting the scriptures as a man who does not have the Holy Spirit of God.
Do you thoroughly understand all of 1 Cor. ch. 2?

after the great flood, God promise to Noah never do it again, but he could do Great drought after the great flood.

You can take it as a joke if you like.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Your mouth is fast and loose BBJ. You have yet to learn the meaning of maturity!

That's a frequent comeback used by the purveyors of false doctrine

They say all kinds of stuff when caught with their spiritual britches down!

God said we all have knowledge of Him in what he has made.

Reckon He made a mistake in having His Word put in to written form and doing so was meaningless and to be ignored in favor of going out at night and look to the stars and hope we hear from the Lord?

Hebrews 1:1,2
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the
worlds;

2 Timothy 3:16
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
righteousness:

2 Timothy 3:15-17
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith
which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

2 Peter 1:3,4
According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of
him that hath called us to glory and virtue:
Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine
nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

Jesus said the Holy Ghost would lead us in to ALL Truth (John 16:13),
and Jesus said God's Word IS Truth (John 17:17)

Romans 8:14
For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God.

Hebrews 4:12
For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of
joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

James 1:21
Therefore put away all filthiness and rampant wickedness and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to
save your souls.

Psalm 119:11
I have stored up your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you.

Galatians 3:15
To give a human example, brothers: even with a man-made covenant, no one annuls it or adds to it once it has been
ratified.

Mark 13:31
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

Psalm 119:160
The sum of your word is truth, and every one of your righteous rules endures forever.

Psalm 119:105
Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path.

Revelation 19:11-13
Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in
righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a
name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called
is The Word of God.

James 1:22
But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves.

Colossians 3:16
Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns
and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God.

2 Peter 1:16-21
For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord
Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This
is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a
dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy
Ghost.

Revelation 19:10
the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

 

[Earburner]

Well, no I don't believe that at all and I'm not sure what gave you the idea that I do.
And, no I never called the "breath of life" a soul.
Furthermore, I don't believe in some "eternal place of torment."

I honestly believe that you are serious in learning from the Holy Spirit the truth of how it is that God has allowed us to have life of our being, but be self sufficient and autonomous, having self will to live life apart from God.

No, not according to me.
The reason people are alive is because God has life in him. It is that life in him that he gives to aus that allows us to live.

People who are not born again of the Holy Spirit, do not have the very Life of God at any time or in any way.
Are you not now saying the same thing that I presented? Your response is only speaking the same of what I said: "If you think that the unsaved are permanently given a portion of God's Eternal Immortal being, that you call "a soul", then you must believe that even if they reject Jesus, they will continue to live eternally....."

Jesus didn't go around raising people from the dead by giving them C.P.R.
Man absolutely does not have an immortal soul.
Man dies and his body returns to dust (the earth).
The soul, you, your personality, your thoughts etc...are in hades, the miraculous state of death.
I say miraculous because when we are raised, all of our "self" which includes our character traits, our deeds, our life so to speak will be intact and ready to face judgment.
God has you in that state of death and will redeem you from that state of death.

I agree, Jesus did not raise people from the dead by CPR.
Having said that, we should learn to have a better understanding and belief about Mat. 27:50-54, as being authentic and miraculously permanent of the "many" resurrections of OC Israel into NEW Life, who had been dead for many long YEARS.
Mat. 27
[50] Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost.
[51] And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;
[52] And the graves were opened; and many [not all of the] bodies of the saints which slept arose,
[53] And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
[54] Now WHEN the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, SAW the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
> Did you happen to notice the exact time of WHEN those OC saints were resurrected?
Yes!! Upon the very moment of Jesus' mortal death!

Considering what we both are saying in my recent response in this post, surely you can come to terms with the reality that for all who  were "remembered by God" of the OC.(Malachi 3:16-18), upon Jesus' Death, they had become the recipients of a "white robe" (Rev. 6:9-11), aka being born again of the Holy Spirit, and are11 now resting with Jesus. All others of OC Israel are considered to be by Him as having never lived.
Mark 14
[21] The Son of man indeed goeth, as it is written of him: but woe to that man by whom the Son of man is betrayed! good were it for that man if he had never been born.

The judgment of all people, while they have breath, is no future event after mortal death. NO....the judgment is NOW and has been, ever since Christ spoke the following words in John 3:18
[18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. [Indeed, "it would be good were it for that man if he had never been born"].

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

self sufficient and autonomous, having self will to live life apart from God.

People are welcome to live apart from the Lord and the Lord will let them do that.

They will spend eternity being tormented in the fires of hell for all eternity but welcome to be separate from God just the same.

 

[quietthinker]

People are welcome to live apart from the Lord and the Lord will let them do that.

They will spend eternity being tormented in the fires of hell for all eternity but welcome to be separate from God just the same.

Did you know BBJ, that your language of 'being tormented in the fires of hell for all eternity' is the exact anti gospel?
Did you know that you are promoting a god mirrored in the devil?