Democracy is a farce

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From my perspective, the elected representatives in democracies don't actually represent us much at all; that's why it's falling apart. You have the people who want one thing, and then you have the elites of society that want something else.

And many times what the people want is mob rule that would fast track the destruction of the nation
 
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And many times what the people want is mob rule that would fast track the destruction of the nation
The left wants mob rule. I want nationalism. I want a government that doesn't treat our country like a market.

How is using American tax payer dollars to fund the reconstruction of Gaza "America First"? How is it that a government that is elected to represent and care for it's people is only interested in representing and caring for international interests?

Oh, wait. I remember now...

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How is using American tax payer dollars to fund the reconstruction of Gaza "America First"? How is it that a government that is elected to represent and care for it's people is only interested in representing and caring for international interests?

Oh, wait. I remember now...

If you would take some time and study American history you'll find that being isolationist didn't work out too well.

If the US doesn't lead the free world then China will step up and take out place turning the entire world to communism which of course is how all you liberals like it. Liberals love them some communism and pray to their father the devil for the US to become a communist state. :rolleyes:

Then there are the racist Jew haters among us who spit in God's face with the hatred of the Jews.

Jesus Christ is a Jew and when He returns He's coming back to the Jewish homeland and will rule the world from His throne in Jerusalem for 1000 years.

The racist Jew haters need not concern themselves with any of this as they'll be suffering in the fires of hell for the murderous hatred they have in their hearts towards others, especially the Jews.
 

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If you would take some time and study American history you'll find that being isolationist didn't work out too well.

If the US doesn't lead the free world then China will step up and take out place turning the entire world to communism which of course is how all you liberals like it. Liberals love them some communism and pray to their father the devil for the US to become a communist state. :rolleyes:

Then there are the racist Jew haters among us who spit in God's face with the hatred of the Jews.

Jesus Christ is a Jew and when He returns He's coming back to the Jewish homeland and will rule the world from His throne in Jerusalem for 1000 years.

The racist Jew haters need not concern themselves with any of this as they'll be suffering in the fires of hell for the murderous hatred they have in their hearts towards others, especially the Jews.
Australia has a PM who has played the cards against the Jews in the State of Israel !
This moronic Socialist PM sat on his stupid ass and outright said, That a Mob were not chanting gas the Jews in fact ! o_O :rolleyes::( !
This total moron PM gets away with all such, because the MSM are just as Satanic Socialist as him and his Party are.
So Ok we ended up with some morons who went out and shot killing Jews here, because our PM clearly backed up the people who hate the Jews ! not only that, but they clearly tryed to kill all of the Jews in Israel in fact ! that's their real intentions, but they failed ! and what did the Australian PM do ? Nothing but support such morons crying for them, who in fact tryed to Genocide a whole Nation in fact !

So we got Jews killed here, because of our total moronic PM ! He created the situation, that we had informed him for years,that his pathetic stance on Jew hatred would come at great cost down the track !

So why did the PM insist on going down such a stupid pathetic track ! well one reson would be to try and creat more stupid idiot Laws against all true Australians in fact ! but not against morons at all !
We the Australian People have to cop it again and again with all such spastic Dictatorship threats against good people who are not the problem at all !

So out comes what they dub as Hate Speech Laws ? but what is it truly ? it's an attack on freedom of Speech in fact ! Such is Typical of all Socialist Nations ! For Socialist always demand that all People are Equal !

Now when the game play of what is called Equal, by Socialist has nothing to do with equality in fact ! because all People under their Political Correctness gods are seen as nothing but Dupes ! that are Lorded over by cunning game plays.

Sure their are Socialist Jews in Israel who are all for The great Socialist gods to dominate over Israel, Why well because Socialist Jews just like any Socialist have no regard for God in fact ! That's why they believe such a great lie, that Jews and Islam will respect oneanother due to the Socialist gods that they clearly Idolise. Like someting as pathetic as what they demand as a 2 State solution ! yet hide such real detales from everyone and can get away with it all, scot free ! no questions asked at all buy any Jounalist to question anything in fact.
 

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If you would take some time and study American history you'll find that being isolationist didn't work out too well.
It's not about being isolationist. It's about putting our people first. Why should American tax payers have to pay to rebuild Gaza when it was the Israelis who destroyed it? They should pay to rebuild it, not us!

I'm sick and tired of this. Israel is the tail that wags the dog; it's proof positive that this America first movement (removed) Trump is Israel First; another traitor to the republic, like all of the United States Congress.

If the United States cannot tell Israel no, then we're not a sovereign country. Netanyahu comes here and he gets whatever he wants. When has he ever been told no?

Think of all of the allies that have been targeted by Trump over the years. What's the one country that's missing from that list? It's Israel. When has Trump ever stood up to Israel the way he stands up to Canada or the EU? It doesn't happen.

And then you get these (removed) like Ted Cruz that get very upset the moment you question Israel. Because that's who he and his ilk, people like Lindsey Graham, they are traitors to the republic! In a properly functioning society, they would be arrested and tried for treason.
 
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It's not about being isolationist. It's about putting our people first. Why should American tax payers have to pay to rebuild Gaza when it was the Israelis who destroyed it? They should pay to rebuild it, not us!

I'm sick and tired of this. Israel is the tail that wags the dog; it's proof positive that this America first movement. Trump is Israel First; another traitor to the republic like all of the United States Congress.

If the United States cannot tell Israel no, then we're not a sovereign country. Netanyahu comes here and he gets whatever he wants. When has he ever been told no?

Think of all of the allies that have been targeted by Trump over the years. What's the one country that's missing from that list? It's Israel. When has Trump ever stood up to Israel the way he stands up to Canada or the EU? It doesn't happen.

And then you get these (removed) like Ted Cruz that get very upset the moment you question Israel. Because that's who he and his ilk, people like Lindsey Graham, they are traitors to the republic! In a properly functioning society, they would be arrested and tried for treason.
Who pays for the rebuild ?
Investors ?
Government assistance at the start ?

But who truly created the War ? or who wanted the War ? It was not Israel !

Israel was attacked ! clearly by a totaly gutless pathetic low life trash people in fact ! clearly a mongrel dog act right from the start !
Hey they loved the boming of Israel ! they were so happy ! They were so happy to see death and distruction, they lived for it ! lapped it all up, But Oh No They lost ! the poor bastards.
Would such as them do the same to any Nation of the West ? For sure in fact, for that's what they are Jackles !
 
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I can't comment about the epstein files as I don't know much enough about it.

But on the heading about democracy: I don't think "Democracy" by itself is a very good/great form of government. Firstly we don't have direct democracy but representative democracy. Secondly, democracy supposedly means rule of the majority (or even rule by mass/mob (ochlocracy)). But in truth the best are always a minority and the rest a majority. I also don't like how the more than 50 percent winners in a election dictate to the less than 50 percent losers. The majority is also influenced by the media and psychological self interest(s) and fluoridation etc. Greek democracy was also not actually rule by the majority but by the 'demos'. Democracy should be balanced by aristocracy (rule of the best) (not oligarchy rule of the few). (I don't know whether my opinions on this are very biblical or not? In fact humans without God can never achieve a perfect best system (though the one in the "end times" will maybe apparently be a false seeming perfect one? (though history has been cyclical and different things fit/match different periods)). There has been evil all through history from the beginning to now and in future. Though some systems/regimes and policies etc may be better/worse than others.)

(Question: What is the difference between a republic and democracy? Republic means res publica. The word public is similar to people/majority? The name Laodicea in Revelation means similar?)
 
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It's about putting our people first.

You are very very naive if you think politicians care anything about the people. clueless-doh.gif



Why should American tax payers have to pay to rebuild Gaza when it was the Israelis who destroyed it?

There's going to be very little tax money from the US used in all this.

They are trying to make this in to some sort of resort and will have big money rolling in from moslems

And it's an honorable thing before the Lord to protect Israel and to spend our tax dollars on their defense.

The day the US turns their back on Israel is the day the Lord Jesus turns His back on the US.

Eventually that day will come if enough liberals get in control of our government so remember this quote.


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(removed) Nobody with the Holy Spirit speaks this way.

God's Word says out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks and now we know what you are fill up!
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@Riven ....I believe what most patriots forget is that “the whole world lies in the power of the wicked one”...(1 John 5:19) How much of “the whole world” is left out of that statement?

When one starts to get involved with the politics of their nation, they are getting involved with the power that control all nations.....isn’t this why Jesus said we must be “no part of the world”? (John 17:16; 18:36)

Paul also spoke about those “wicked spirit forces” that control all governments.

“Put on the complete suit of armor from God so that you may be able to stand firm against the crafty acts of the Devil; 12  because we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.13  For this reason take up the complete suit of armor from God, so that you may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after you have accomplished everything, to stand firm.”

We are to have armour but no physical weapons. The complete suit of armor does not allow the enemy’s missiles to penetrate, even if they knock us off our feet. We get back up, to continue standing firm.

Our only weapon is the “sword of the spirit”....”God’s word”.

We have to have....”the belt of truth fastened around your waist, wearing the breastplate of righteousness, 15  and having your feet shod in readiness to declare the good news of peace. 16  Besides all of this, take up the large shield of faith, with which you will be able to extinguish all the wicked one’s burning arrows. 17  Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word”. (Eph 6)

We are not to meddle in the devil’s world.....but to be separate from it....separate from it’s politics, wars, violence, greedy commercialism, and immorality....not to mention it’s supernatural fascination that spills over into their entertainment...especially for children. “Magic” is of the devil, but portrayed as innocent fun.

We have to wake up to who is running this show, and not allow the devil to infiltrate our emotions through patriotic sentiment......Christianity and patriotism are opposite “faiths”.
No genuine Christian can be a patriot, because even the tacit support of bloodshed makes one guilty before God. (Isa 1:15) Every soldier who is told that God is on their side has been lied to.....God is not involved with the governance of any nation on earth with those who have blood on their hands.
 
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And the lack of accountability after the release of the Epstein files proves it. Where are the arrests? Why does seemingly everyone in our government want this to just go away? :IDK:

Could it be because many of our law makers and judges are in those files?
And that's what the public has tocobsider now? After theyvtried to imy delaw was to hide Trump's name being there failed. Because, it was found out his name isn't there.

And in fact,long years before, Trump told authorities they needed to check Epstein out.
 
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@Riven ....I believe what most patriots forget is that “the whole world lies in the power of the wicked one”...(1 John 5:19) How much of “the whole world” is left out of that statement?

When one starts to get involved with the politics of their nation, they are getting involved with the power that control all nations.....isn’t this why Jesus said we must be “no part of the world”? (John 17:16; 18:36)

Paul also spoke about those “wicked spirit forces” that control all governments.

“Put on the complete suit of armor from God so that you may be able to stand firm against the crafty acts of the Devil; 12  because we have a struggle, not against blood and flesh, but against the governments, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places.13  For this reason take up the complete suit of armor from God, so that you may be able to resist in the wicked day and, after you have accomplished everything, to stand firm.”

We are to have armour but no physical weapons. The complete suit of armor does not allow the enemy’s missiles to penetrate, even if they knock us off our feet. We get back up, to continue standing firm.

Our only weapon is the “sword of the spirit”....”God’s word”.

We have to have....”the belt of truth fastened around your waist, wearing the breastplate of righteousness, 15  and having your feet shod in readiness to declare the good news of peace. 16  Besides all of this, take up the large shield of faith, with which you will be able to extinguish all the wicked one’s burning arrows. 17  Also, accept the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the spirit, that is, God’s word”. (Eph 6)

We are not to meddle in the devil’s world.....but to be separate from it....separate from it’s politics, wars, violence, greedy commercialism, and immorality....not to mention it’s supernatural fascination that spills over into their entertainment...especially for children. “Magic” is of the devil, but portrayed as innocent fun.

We have to wake up to who is running this show, and not allow the devil to infiltrate our emotions through patriotic sentiment......Christianity and patriotism are opposite “faiths”.
No genuine Christian can be a patriot, because even the tacit support of bloodshed makes one guilty before God. (Isa 1:15) Every soldier who is told that God is on their side has been lied to.....God is not involved with the governance of any nation on earth with those who have blood on their hands.
Then explain to me how you have a functioning nation without a government. How will Christians be represented in government if Christians stay out of politics?
 
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I can't comment about the epstein files as I don't know much enough about it.

But on the heading about democracy: I don't think "Democracy" by itself is a very good/great form of government. Firstly we don't have direct democracy but representative democracy. Secondly, democracy supposedly means rule of the majority (or even rule by mass/mob (ochlocracy)). But in truth the best are always a minority and the rest a majority. I also don't like how the more than 50 percent winners in a election dictate to the less than 50 percent losers. The majority is also influenced by the media and psychological self interest(s) and fluoridation etc. Greek democracy was also not actually rule by the majority but by the 'demos'. Democracy should be balanced by aristocracy (rule of the best) (not oligarchy rule of the few). (I don't know whether my opinions on this are very biblical or not? In fact humans without God can never achieve a perfect best system (though the one in the "end times" will maybe apparently be a false seeming perfect one? (though history has been cyclical and different things fit/match different periods)). There has been evil all through history from the beginning to now and in future. Though some systems/regimes and policies etc may be better/worse than others.)

(Question: What is the difference between a republic and democracy? Republic means res publica. The word public is similar to people/majority? The name Laodicea in Revelation means similar?)
Pure Democracy is only Mob rule.
Bible points out that a Mob is Trash !

But one can have a healthy form of Democracy ! or a crap type of democracy like a Socialist one.

Like the USA Democrat Party was once a worthy Party, but it got Stolen by the Socialist !
They Stole the Party right under the Nations Peoples nose in fact ! The Media played into the Game play 100% gulty ! Just as was Nazi Germany Media was Dominated !
Nazi Germany was a Democracy and it erroded the Peoples rights to freedom of speech and then went on to Dominate over everyone who did not Idolise Hitler and all who did not idolise Hitlers Socialist were called enemys of the State !

The same deal is at hand with the USA Democrat Party, it is playing the same cards but the game is diffrent way of going about the same ends, The ends is to Dominate over all of the People !
So to all over the world is the same intent of all Socialist in fact !
They work to make all Slaves to a bastard depraved system !

The Communist nowadays call themselves The Democratic Socialist Republic !

For a healthy Democracy you need a broad middle Class of well informed educated People.
Socialism works to creat a so called equality, that is of the lowest common denominator That is poor Slaves with no hope of bettering themselves or anyone.

Socialism has entered into the Churches to dominate over all in fact and clearly has no regards Christ Jesus in fact !

The only way up is throught Christ Jesus regardless and in abiding in him we can only grow with God as the Truth will set us free !

Socialism is clearly not of the Truth in fact, in fact they say that they do not have any regards of the Truth, they call such relative ? why is that one may ask ? because the Truth is clearly not in them. clearly such people are going to Hell !
 

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Then explain to me how you have a functioning nation without a government. How will Christians be represented in government if Christians stay out of politics?
In exactly the same way that the first Christians were represented in government…..
They obeyed Jesus and stayed right out of it….man’s governments are under the devil’s control, and until God brings in the rule of his Kingdom…(the government that is supported by Christ’s disciples) it will stay that way, to prove beyond all shadow of doubt that humans are incapable of ruling themselves without God.

What human rulership do you know of that is not a corrupt failure?

That is why God gave rulership of this world over to the devil in the first place (Luke 4:5-7)…..Jesus told us to be no part of it, because the world will do what the world will do, under the devil’s influence.…to prove what a failure he is.

Things will only get worse before the end comes, and we can let them do whatever they will, because what we see in this world, was all foretold for these “last days”. (2 Tim 3:1-5)
 

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In exactly the same way that the first Christians were represented in government…..
They obeyed Jesus and stayed right out of it….man’s governments are under the devil’s control, and until God brings in the rule of his Kingdom…(the government that is supported by Christ’s disciples) it will stay that way, to prove beyond all shadow of doubt that humans are incapable of ruling themselves without God.

What human rulership do you know of that is not a corrupt failure?

That is why God gave rulership of this world over to the devil in the first place (Luke 4:5-7)…..Jesus told us to be no part of it, because the world will do what the world will do, under the devil’s influence.…to prove what a failure he is.

Things will only get worse before the end comes, and we can let them do whatever they will, because what we see in this world, was all foretold for these “last days”. (2 Tim 3:1-5)
But I don't think there will be such a thing as a Christian government.
"Rule with Christ for a thousand years" does not mean this.
Man’s governments are under the ruler of Satan till the "last day" or end of the world,because they are the son of Satan, they are not son of God.