From the pen of Ellen White

[Big Boy Johnson]

What you call research is mouthing the opinions of those who have it in their hearts to misrepresent EGW. That sort of 'research' is about as valid as the flat earth theory........and I'm telling you this as a non SDA.
Your blatherings only circle in the world of the uninformed, the ignorant and the hateful.

So, you are barking up the wrong tree with your false SDA doctrine
and your false women should be in authority over men doctrine.

 

[Triumph1300]

The same people that are here bashing the SDA church about "women speaking in the church", are the same people who are ok with Trump's spiritual advisor in the White House. How hypocritical!

You would be better off focussing on Paula the False White House Teacher instead of spending your energy on the SDA Church.
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Don't forget one thing, the first church on European soil was in Lydia's house, she was put in that position by God.

 

[The Learner]

Proof. All you got is hearsay.

Like I said. The date was correct the second time, the first time an honest mathematical error. Miller didn't pick the date from a corn flakes packet. He worked it out through studying Daniel, and using protestant historicist hermeneutics, which sadly you have abandoned. The event was wrong, yes. But how do you know the Lord wasnt deliberately allowing the church to make that mistake in order to bring about all greater revelation of truth... which actually happened. But you, preaching from your self appointed pulpit, won't allow that, your constant pontificating that 'the investigative judgment is wrong' won't allow to you even consider you being wrong. Too proud. You claim to have studied the investigative judgment. I say your superficial intent to to look at it was for the sole benefit of proving it wrong. God will allow that with any doctrine. He always leaves room for doubt. And those who have no love for the truth take the bait, and begin to lead others to doubt. They don't show their 'proofs', they don't encourage others to study what Adventists teach, that would be too dangerous for them, and you. They, and you, would be found out.

I think it was an SDA who created corn flakes!

 

[The Learner]

False doctrine and fake news. She was a helper, not an apostle because God's Word clearly teaches that pastors, deacons and church leaders are MEN, not women.

You are pitting scripture against scripture which is the false claim that some things God says in His Word are lies which is of course what satan has claimed all along.

Romans 16:7
Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

This is saying she was known among the Apostles and does not say she was an Apostle.



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She taught things God's Word does not teach so she's a false teacher.

But hey, if you want to follower her go right ahead. It ends badly but whatever, you've been warned.




The Lord hasn't returned yet so the second time was lies from the devil just like the first time was.

Have you not read what the Lord said about nobody but the Father knowing when the Lord will return?

Obviously not. But, that's why cults are cults is because they disregard what the Lord says in His Word.




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The word Apostle has also in the New Testament a larger meaning, and denotes some inferior disciples who, under the direction of the Apostles, preached the Gospel, or contributed to its diffusion; thus Barnabas (Acts 14:4, 14), probably Andronicus and Junias (Romans 16:7), Epaphroditus (Philippians 2:25), two unknown Christians who were delegated for the collection in Corinth (2 Corinthians 8:23). We know not why the honourable name of Apostle is not given to such illustrious missionaries as Timothy, Titus, and others who would equally merit it. CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: Apostles

 

[The Learner]

False doctrine and fake news. She was a helper, not an apostle because God's Word clearly teaches that pastors, deacons and church leaders are MEN, not women.

You are pitting scripture against scripture which is the false claim that some things God says in His Word are lies which is of course what satan has claimed all along.

Romans 16:7
Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

This is saying she was known among the Apostles and does not say she was an Apostle.



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She taught things God's Word does not teach so she's a false teacher.

But hey, if you want to follower her go right ahead. It ends badly but whatever, you've been warned.




The Lord hasn't returned yet so the second time was lies from the devil just like the first time was.

Have you not read what the Lord said about nobody but the Father knowing when the Lord will return?

Obviously not. But, that's why cults are cults is because they disregard what the Lord says in His Word.




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Origen (c. 185–254) Commentarius in epistolum ad Romanos, Book 10 (10.21 cf. 10:26) (PG 14.1280). Origen suggests Andronicus and Junia were among the seventy-two sent out by Jesus in Luke 10. He speaks of Junia as both a woman and as an apostle.[3] (More on Origen below.)
Chrysostom (c. 344/345–407), In epistolum ad Romanos 31.2 (PG 60.669–670). Chrysostom is often quoted as referring to Junia as a woman and as stating that she is “even to be worthy of the designation ‘of the apostles.’”
Jerome (c. 345–419), Liber interpretationis hebraicorum nominun 72.15 (CCLat 72.150) (or column 895, p. 41 here); and Expositio ep. ad Romanos 16:7 (PL 30.744).
Ambrosiaster (c. 379), Commentarius in epistolum ad Romanos (CSEL 81.480) Ambrosiaster uses the name “Julia.”
Theodoret of Cyrrhus (c. 393–c. 458), Interpretatio epistolum ad Romanos (PG 82.219–229). Theodoret comments that Andronicus and Junia were of note “not among the pupils but among the teachers, and not among the ordinary teachers but among the apostles.”[4]
(Έπειτα επισήμους είναι λέγει, ούκ έν τοις μαθηταῖς, ἀλλ’ έν τοίς διδασκάλοις, ούδέ έν τοϊς τυχούσι διδασκάλοις, ἀλλ’ έν τοις άποστόλοις.)
Ps. Primasius (died c. 567), Commentarius in epistolum ad Romanos (PL 68.505).
John Damascene (c. 675–c. 749), In epistolum ad Romanos (PG 95.565). John of Damascus echoed Chrysostom’s thoughts and wrote, “And to be called ‘apostles’ is a great thing … but to be even among these of note, just consider what a great encomium this is.”
Rabanus Maurus of Fulda (776–856), In epistolum ad Romanos (PL 111.1607D–1608B).

 

[The Learner]

Mocking gives you a really good look BBJ.....especially when it's based on an understanding you have never researched！

winner

 

[The Learner]

False doctrine and fake news. She was a helper, not an apostle because God's Word clearly teaches that pastors, deacons and church leaders are MEN, not women.

You are pitting scripture against scripture which is the false claim that some things God says in His Word are lies which is of course what satan has claimed all along.

Romans 16:7
Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

This is saying she was known among the Apostles and does not say she was an Apostle.



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She taught things God's Word does not teach so she's a false teacher.

But hey, if you want to follower her go right ahead. It ends badly but whatever, you've been warned.




The Lord hasn't returned yet so the second time was lies from the devil just like the first time was.

Have you not read what the Lord said about nobody but the Father knowing when the Lord will return?

Obviously not. But, that's why cults are cults is because they disregard what the Lord says in His Word.




And he STILL got it all wrong
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In Romans 16:7, Paul greets Junia (paired with Andronicus) as "prominent among the apostles," widely recognized by scholars as the primary early Christian woman explicitly identified with the apostolic title.

 

[The Learner]

I have researched it and found from God's Word that women are not to be in authority over men so that's the first red flag as to why I will not be submitting to the teachings of this or any woman.

Secondly she teachings things that are not the Doctrine of Christ

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of
Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

The Bible does not say she had authority over men.

 

[The Learner]

Well you follower her writings and I'll following the writings of the Lord Jesus Christ and we'll see who ends up where View attachment 80417

Galatians 2:21
do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Time out, Jesus never wrote a book of hte Bible.

 

[The Learner]

18. The Gift of Prophecy
The Scriptures testify that one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy.

This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and we believe it was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White. Her writings speak with prophetic authority and provide comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction to the church.

They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested.

(Num. 12:6; 2 Chron. 20:20; Amos 3:7; Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 12:17; 19:10; 22:8, 9.)

What We Believe

Official online home of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, a Christian denomination devoted to helping people understand the Bible & find freedom, healing & hope in Jesus.

adventist.org

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

In Romans 16:7, Paul greets Junia (paired with Andronicus) as "prominent among the apostles," widely recognized by scholars as the primary early Christian woman explicitly identified with the apostolic title.

Other scriptures in the New Testament says deacons, pastors, church leaders are MEN.

Sounds like you need to go find a woman to bow down and submit to. Enjoy being feminized

The Bible does not say she had authority over men.

Women never have authority over men.

Women were created by the Lord to serve in a helper role not in a role of authority.
Only men can serve in a role of authority according to scripture.

Quote from - 1 Timothy 3:1-13
This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desires a good work.
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife

Quote from - Titus 1:6-9
If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God

Quote from - 1 Timothy 2:12,13
I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man

Related TRUTH from Scripture:

1 Corinthians 11:8,9
For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man.
Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

Genesis 2:18
And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Concerning 1 Timothy 2:8-15
The Lord Jesus teaching thru Paul gave two reasons, both of them are theological not cultural.

1. The created order: Adam was first created as an independent person, then Eve was created from his rib to be his
helper. She was therefore not created to be independent of the man in authority.

2. Eve, and consequently all women, were placed under a penalty of the curse. This included pain in childbearing and
that her husband would rule over her.

Jesus never wrote a book of hte Bible.

2 Peter 1:21
holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

This is how these men knew what to write down

John 16:13
Howbeit when He, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth: for He shall not speak of Himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will shew you things to come.

*Jesus said He only does and speaks what He sees and hears from the Father (John 12:49, John 5:19, John 8:28, John 8:38)

This is how these men knew what to write down is they were led by the Holy Spirit as to what to write as the Jesus instructed.

He is THE Word of God!

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Origen (c. 185–254) Commentarius in epistolum ad Romanos, Book 10 (10.21 cf. 10:26) (PG 14.1280). Origen suggests Andronicus and Junia were among the seventy-two sent out by Jesus in Luke 10. He speaks of Junia as both a woman and as an apostle.[3] (More on Origen below.)
Chrysostom (c. 344/345–407), In epistolum ad Romanos 31.2 (PG 60.669–670). Chrysostom is often quoted as referring to Junia as a woman and as stating that she is “even to be worthy of the designation ‘of the apostles.’”
Jerome (c. 345–419), Liber interpretationis hebraicorum nominun 72.15 (CCLat 72.150) (or column 895, p. 41 here); and Expositio ep. ad Romanos 16:7 (PL 30.744).
Ambrosiaster (c. 379), Commentarius in epistolum ad Romanos (CSEL 81.480) Ambrosiaster uses the name “Julia.”
Theodoret of Cyrrhus (c. 393–c. 458), Interpretatio epistolum ad Romanos (PG 82.219–229). Theodoret comments that Andronicus and Junia were of note “not among the pupils but among the teachers, and not among the ordinary teachers but among the apostles.”[4]
(Έπειτα επισήμους είναι λέγει, ούκ έν τοις μαθηταῖς, ἀλλ’ έν τοίς διδασκάλοις, ούδέ έν τοϊς τυχούσι διδασκάλοις, ἀλλ’ έν τοις άποστόλοις.)
Ps. Primasius (died c. 567), Commentarius in epistolum ad Romanos (PL 68.505).
John Damascene (c. 675–c. 749), In epistolum ad Romanos (PG 95.565). John of Damascus echoed Chrysostom’s thoughts and wrote, “And to be called ‘apostles’ is a great thing … but to be even among these of note, just consider what a great encomium this is.”
Rabanus Maurus of Fulda (776–856), In epistolum ad Romanos (PL 111.1607D–1608B).

All these babes were nothing more than helpers in the ministry

They were not deacons, pastors, or church leaders.

The gifts of the Spirit can move thru a woman where she prophesies but that does not make her a deacon, pastor, or church leader.

 

[Big Boy Johnson]

Her writings speak with prophetic authority and provide comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction to the church.

Too bad there is false doctrine in her writing which makes her a false teacher.

Someone that should be ignored an is ignored by those being led by the Real Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ.

Now, those being led by the fake so called "holy spirit" of the devil will follower her as this is just being deceived by a low level devil.

 

[Triumph1300]

Too bad there is false doctrine in her writing which makes her a false teacher.

But it's ok to have a false female teacher as spiritual advisor in the White House.
A claim it and name it preacher.
Money hungry, and leading the crowds astray.
Long nails, full of jewellery, false eyelesses, takes 2 hours to get her makeup on to look like a prostitute.
You guys are unbelievable.
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And all of this is ok, because you guys support Trump, the most vile person EVER in the White House.
Get your act together, bunch of bullies.

 

[Brakelite]

I think it was an SDA who created corn flakes!

Actually you are right. In Australia andNZ cereals which were basically invented by Harvey Kellogg who was an adventist, are manufactured by a church owned enterprise, Sanitarium.

 

[rockytopva]

Harvey Kellogg

Harvey Kellogg's disagreements with other members of the SDA Church led to a major schism: he was disfellowshipped in 1907.

 

[shepherdsword]

Harvey Kellogg's disagreements with other members of the SDA Church led to a major schism: he was disfellowshipped in 1907.

I love me some frosted flakes...lol

 

[rockytopva]

I love me some frosted flakes...lol

I grew up with Tony the Tiger... They're Great! This makes me hunger for a box of Frosted Flakes. Harvey Kellogg did live a healthy life.

 

[Button]

I grew up with Tony the Tiger... They're Great! This makes me hunger for a box of Frosted Flakes. Harvey Kellogg did live a healthy life.

And after all these years Tony finally came out with chocolate milkshake frosted flakes.

 

[Brakelite]

Harvey Kellogg's disagreements with other members of the SDA Church led to a major schism: he was disfellowshipped in 1907.

He was. His beliefs took a left turn into pantheism.