How Seventh day Adventists create the LIE that Sunday worship overtook Sabbath observance

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How Seventh day Adventists create the LIE that Sunday worship overtook Sabbath observance 1.

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There is a question that refuses to go away. What day did the earliest0:05 Christians actually keep holy? Few questions stir more passion and more0:11 confusion than the Sabbath. …

10:07 You come to the council of Laodicea in 364,10:13 you come to a point where church and state unite,10:18 Sunday worship is introduced now into the empire. That's why here Socrates10:26 Scholasticus says, Almost all churches throughout the world celebrate the sacred mysteries on the Sabbath every10:31 week. But the Christians of Rome because they have begun to compromise in Alexandria where you have a very high10:39 influence there of Christianity and sun worship. So the statement is critical.10:46 Sunday observance was the exception not the rule.

Stop Look:

Now right before having said this, Mark Finley stated:

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What does early Christian history actually teach us?

0:50 We're going to look at those original sources. And we're also going to look at 0:55 some original Catholic sources on the Catholic Church's 1:02 acknowledgment that they changed the Sabbath. And we're also going to look at the challenge that the Catholic Church gives to Protestantism.

Stop Look:

Now <10:07
You come to the council of Laodicea in 364,10:13 you come to a point where church and state unite(d),10:18 Sunday worship is introduced now into the empire.>

Finley claims all this forgetting… no, rather claiming, without first having asked if this, Laodicea in 364,
actually was an, or was the original Catholic (council) source on the Catholic Church's 1:02 acknowledgment that they changed the Sabbath? Was Laodicea in 364 the point where and when church and state united? The answer of course is No, Laodicea in 364 was A Greek council of Greek speaking churches—not Latin. And Laodicea in 364 never claimed or aimed at uniting church and state. On the contrary. But that is not now the issue. Important for now is that the Sabbath the Seventh Day of the week at no point during the Council of Laodicea became the focus point of disagreement with the view to change in worship, liturgy, doctrine, public relations or whatever. Instead, Laodicea or the historic ‘original’ documentation of that council, if anything, confirms the Sabbath the Seventh Day of the week as the only day of any significance for the Church of that time in its worship.



Association of Sunday with Laodicea 364 started with spurious ‘manuscripts’ the Roman Catholics allege to this day originated in the 2nd century, which false claims would long have been forgotten by everybody, had not the Adventists constantly kept on digging up the rotten bones of its carcase.

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My understanding is that on the seventh day in Genesis, God had already completed all of His work, including the future coming of Jesus Christ, the resurrection of the dead, judgment, and so on.

Commemorating the seventh day is meant to tell humanity that the destiny of mankind has already been predetermined.
 

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My understanding is that on the seventh day in Genesis, God had already completed all of His work, including the future coming of Jesus Christ, the resurrection of the dead, judgment, and so on.

Commemorating the seventh day is meant to tell humanity that the destiny of mankind has already been predetermined.
It's not the subject of this thread.
 

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My understanding is that on the seventh day in Genesis, God had already completed all of His work, including the future coming of Jesus Christ, the resurrection of the dead, judgment, and so on.

Commemorating the seventh day is meant to tell humanity that the destiny of mankind has already been predetermined.
You'd think bigots attacking SDA would be tired of that exercise by now.
God ordained Sabbath rest in Genesis.
Targeting Seventh Day Adventists is a graceless transparent act of ignorance and bigotry.

Second century, Ignatius, Justin Martyr, Irenaeus and Clement of Alexandria attacked Sabbath observance.
Tertullian followed in the third century. In A.D. 321 Roman Emperor Constantine established Sunday as a day of rest.

Constantine,not God! Sunday was a day of worship for a Roman pagan god of the Sun.

God's day of rest has never changed. Sunset Friday to sunset Saturday.
 

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Here's the other thing anti-Sabbath proponents ignore.

Sabbath was not established in the law of God that was given to Moses by God.

Sabbath was established after the 6 days of Creation. As a day of rest.

This was before the Israelites. Before there was a people called Jews.

Which is why the command given to Moses says,remember the Sabbath day and keep it holy.

The other thing anti-Sabbath people ignore?
When Moses arrived with the ten commands of God,he wasn't giving God's laws to only Israelites. Gentiles were there too.

Jesus is Savior of the world. Not Jews only. Peter was sent to the Gentiles so to bring the Gospel to them as well.

Christians insisting Sunday is our day of worship are concurring with the 325AD edict of Constantine.

God didn't change the date of his gift of rest for us.
 
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How Seventh day Adventists create the LIE that Sunday worship overtook Sabbath observance 2.

Finley:

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Few questions stir more passion and more0:11 confusion than the Sabbath.

StopLook:

Few people with more passion ask questions for no reason than to cause confusion about the Sabbath Day of the LORD GOD. Finley once again confirms that fact, here0:13.

Finley:

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evidence, plain, direct, undeniable, that the Sabbath was1:35 observed by Christians for centuries after Christ. And then we'll ask the1:42 unavoidable question. If the Sabbath was changed, when did it happen? How did it1:49 happen? And by whose authority?

StopLook:

The unavoidable question… <If> the Sabbath was changed? Yes? Or No? Taken for granted or proven? Proven by observers or proven by Maker and Giver of the Sabbath? And what if contradicted by observers’ and God’s <evidence>? Whose evidence gets preference? Then only can it make sense to ask <when did it happen? How did it 1:49 happen? And by whose authority?> The unavoidable question is not When did the change happen or How did the change happen, but WHO IS THE AUTHORITY THAT THE CHANGE HAPPENED? Which is the question the Seventh day Adventists have DODGED from the moment they introduced the Sabbath into their system of doctrine, a frozen Sabbath corpse transferred from the Mortuary For Dead Dogma of the Contra Reformationists to their sub glassier bunker for such Papal residue.

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How Seventh day Adventists create the LIE that Sunday worship overtook Sabbath observance 3.

Finley:

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Now the Old Testament is particularly clear. The 0:16 seventh day of the week is the Bible Sabbath given at creation kept through the whole Old Testament.

StopLook:

<the Bible Sabbath given at creation… kept>. Was the Sabbath there before <at creation> or was it <kept> or <given>, <at creation>? Does it not mean since God made man on the Sixth Day, “the Lord of the Sabbath, the Son of Man, made the Sabbath for man”, after the creation? After the creation, after “God in six days had made heaven and earth and all that in them is”? Of course it means nothing else. And that means that the Bible Sabbath was not <given at creation>, but that “God on the Seventh Day… rested” and so, accordingly, specifically, and exclusively, “from all, His, works He did, He had made, rested”—rested therein, therewith and thereby, that “God finished the Seventh Day, blessed the Seventh Day, hallowed the Seventh Day, and the Seventh Day, rested”, “ the Seventh Day rested—reviving…reviving—rested”. Genesis 2:2,3 Exodus 32:14-17.

Did God Elohim do any of these five things, finished, blessed, hallowed, rested, revived, “in six days” before the Seventh Day? Then stop talking and writing of <the Bible Sabbath given at creation>. The creation was the “six days” in which God Elohim made “mam and everything that He had made, and behold, it was very good!” The Bible says, “God spoke, and, it, was. … it, was—kind of independent… But there were no “it was’ ” the Seventh Day. The Seventh Day God acted alone. Each do-word has God Elohim its Subject, “God finished… God blessed… God hallowed… God rested… God revived”. The Old Testament is particularly clear, at Genesis 1, 2 and 3 already “THEREFORE, THE SON OF MAN IS LORD OF THE SABBATH.”

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Constantine's Sunday "Blue Law".
 

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How Seventh day Adventists create the LIE that Sunday worship overtook Sabbath observance 4. 20260304​

Finley:

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the New Testament? What did Jesus teach regarding the Sabbath? And what about the disciples? Did they keep the Bible0:30 Sabbath? And what does early Christian history actually teach us? What is the0:37 New Testament evidence? .

StopLook:

What did Jesus teach regarding the Sabbath? What is the New Testament evidence? Luke 4: 1And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost led by the Spirit 4 answered, saying, It Is Written, man shall not live by mere food, but by The Very Word Of God. 6 All power and glory is delivered unto Me and to whomever I will I give it. 7 Worship Me. 8 Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 9 If I be Lifted Up (the Son of God – be Crucified and Killed), and Myself be Cast Down (Be Buried) 10 As It Is Written, He shall give his angels charge over Thee, to keep Thee, 11 that they shall bear Thee up (Gethsemane), lest at any time Thou dash thy foot against a stone (Garden of Gethsemane)… 12 Jesus answering (teaching), said (witnessed of) Himself, It Is Said (Written), Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God (as in the Garden of Eden).

13And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from Him (the Son of Man as from the first Adam when) for a season… “Yahweh Elohim I AM GOD ALMIGHTY called Adam in the evening cool of day: WHERE ARE YOU?”

14 Thus Jesus Returned In Power Of The Spirit… and there went out a fame of Him through all the region round about. 15And He taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all 16 where … on the Sabbath Day He Stood Up For To Read (Evidence). 17 And there was handed to him The Book of the prophet Esaias. And when He Opened The Book (Revelation 5:1-9) He Found The Place Where It Was Written, 18 The Spirit of the Lord came upon Me (Pentecost), because He Anointed Me To Preach The Gospel (The Power Of God, Jesus Christ), To Save the POOR (and lost). (God Elohim) Sent Me (the I AM, Yahweh) to HEAL the broken-hearted (sinners), to preaching, bring DELIVERANCE to the captives (buried under wages of sin), and RECOVERING OF SIGHT to the blind (who think they are free to decide and choose and get along themselves), to LIBERATE them that are bruised (poor blind Laodiceans, Jews, Christians). 20 So on the Sabbath Day For To Read

He
Stood Up”, ROSE, MISSION (Luke 4) “FULFILLED”, “THIS DAY”, “and CLOSING THE BOOK 19 HE READ: “TO PREACH THE ACCEPTABLE YEAR OF THE LORD” — the Passover Suffering, Death, Burial and Resurrection of Christ. (Ephesians 1:20)

Then He gave The Book again to the deacon (Great Commission), AND SAT DOWN (Ascension). And the eyes of all them that were in the church building were FASTENED ON HIM. 21 And He began again to say unto them, THIS DAY IS THIS SCRIPTURE FULFILLED IN YOUR EARS. 22 And all bare HIM witness, and wondered at the GRACIOUS WORD WHICH PROCEEDED OUT OF HIS MOUTH.



What did Jesus teach regarding the Sabbath?

The New Testament!

And what about disciples?

That they keep the Bible Sabbath!

And what does early Christian history actually teach us?

What the New Testament evidenced!

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Have you noticed Genesis 1, 2 & 3— = —Luke 4? Can you perceive GOD is faster than light... much much much, faster, and surer, than creation and or creature? That GOD IS "I AM the First and the Last"? That "I AM" is CHRIST "the Alpha and the Omega"? "The Most High" "made a Servant of men ... lower than the angels"!
I pray this will not to you be "something spooky at work" between "in the beginning" and "this day fulfilled", but GOD IN CHRIST JESUS, will be "my LORD AND my GOD", in both Moses and Luke, as in both the New and the Old Testaments, will be Jesus, God's one and only ever COVENANT OF GRACE---also pertaining "the Seventh Day Sabbath of the LORD - our - GOD."
 
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The history of the universe and our solar system began, not with 'the Big Bang', but with a 'BLACK HOLE'.
Figure that out in light and or in dark of Genesis 1, 2, 3, as in or from Luke 4 the devil and all, --- for yourself.
 

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How Seventh day Adventists create the LIE that Sunday worship overtook Sabbath observance 5. 20260305​

Finley:

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So this was not merely an evangelistic strategy that Paul had. It was a settled 7:07 pattern of worship. Paul's theology confirms this practice. In Romans 3:31, 7:13 we read, "Do we then make void the law through faith?" Certainly not. On the 7:20 contrary, we establish the law. Faith did not erase obedience. Faith empowered 7:29 obedience. So from the Old Testament, from the days of Genesis, 2,300 years before the 7:37 Jewish race, down through the Ten Commandment law, down through the faithfulness of God's people in the Old 7:43 Testament, through the New Testament period, the believers, the faithful men 7:50 and women of God, kept the Bible Sabbath. .

StopLook:

Not at a single instance of the Sabbath being mentioned in the New Testament Seventh day Adventists fail, to see, Jesus—Christ the Essence of Sabbath’s Feast” Colossians 2:16. Not once at every instance of the Sabbath being mentioned in the New Testament do Seventh day Adventists fail, to effectively advance Sunday sacredness and worship.

As perfect example, here at Acts 13

Finley:

<So this was not merely an evangelistic strategy that Paul had. It was a settled7:07 pattern of worship. Paul's theology confirms this practice. In Romans 3:31,7:13 we read, "Do we then make void the law through faith?" Certainly not. On the7:20 contrary, we establish the law. Faith did not erase obedience. Faith empowered7:29 obedience. So from the Old Testament, from the days of Genesis, 2,300 years before the7:37 Jewish race, down through the Ten Commandment law, down through the faithfulness of God's people in the Old Testament,7:43 through the New Testament period, the believers, the faithful men7:50 and women of God, kept the Bible Sabbath>

StopLook:

No!
<Kept> the ‘righteousness-by-works-Sabbath’… <Kept> the through the law of ‘compensation-to-merit-earned-Sabbath’… <Kept> by maliciously making void faith in the Lord Jesus Christ the Sabbath Law-Giver! Yes! <Faith did not erase obedience>— <obedience> erased faith… and erased the Faith, having become the <keeping of the Bible Sabbath> of <men and women> and not the Sabbath of God’s own keeping through the Son the Son Of Man, in the Book of Isaiah.

Find the Place in Isaiah chapter 58

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If Thou turn away thy foot from the Sabbath, doing thy pleasure on MY Holy Day and call My Sabbath a delight, the LORD’S Holy Day, and shalt honour HIM (the LORD), calling it (the Sabbath) the Honourable Day OF THE LORD – not doing Thine own ways, nor finding Thine own pleasure, nor speaking Thine own words – 14 then shalt Thou delight Thyself in the LORD, and THEN I the LORD will cause Thee, to ride upon the high places of the earth (Resurrected), and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father (Pentecostal Church). For the Mouth Of The LORD hath spoken (the Word WHO “in the beginning was, WHO in the beginning was GOD, WHO in the beginning was WITH God.”)

Luke 22:42 At all cost not My will, but Thine, be done. πλὴν μὴ τὸ θέλημά μου ἀλλὰ τὸ σὸν γινέσθω.

Isaiah 56:2 Blessed The Man WHO does this, The Son Of Man WHO holds it fast, WHO keeps the Sabbath... WHO does this… The Very Son Of Man WHO honours My – the LORD GOD’S – Sabbath-Day-Of-Rest.)

Luke 6:5 Jesus declared, The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.

Mark 2:28 Therefore, the Son of Man is Lord even, of the Sabbath.

Matthew 12:8 For the Son Of Man, is Lord— of the Sabbath.

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How Seventh day Adventists create the LIE that Sunday worship overtook Sabbath observance 6. 20260306​

Finley:

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Here in Acts chapter 13, the Apostle Paul is preaching in the synagogue and somebody says, "Well, this he did4:43 this for evangelistic purposes. You know, he just went into the synagogue to preach to the Jews." But we'll see4:50 something quite fascinating here. Acts 13:42. But when the Jews went out of the4:56 synagogue, the Gentiles begged that these words might be preached to them5:02 the next Sabbath. Now notice, the Jews are in the synagogue. Paul goes in and5:08 preaches. The Gentiles leave the synagogue and they say, "Preach to us5:14 the next Sabbath." What does Paul say? Does he say, "You come back on Sunday5:19 and uh I'll preach to you." Verse 43. Now when the congregation had broken up,5:26 many of the Jews and devout proselytes followed Paul and Barnabas who speaking5:31 to them persuaded them to continue in the grace of God. So they continued in 5:36 God's grace, which led them to obey God's law and 5:43 keep the Bible Sabbath. So grace and law and Sabbath are not distinct or5:49 separate. That's why Jesus said, 'If you love me, John14:15, keep my commandments. But notice verse 44, the5:56 next Sabbath, almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God. So the6:03 whole city comes to hear the word on the Sabbath. So it's obvious from Acts 13:446:10 that the New Testament Christian believers are not worshiping on the first day of the week. They're6:16 worshiping on the Bible Sabbath.

StopLook:

Above, Luke 4, has shown how and

When the Sabbath was changed, and

By WHOM— by GOD ELOHIM.

GOD, the beginning, Spoke

“And it was…

“In the evening cool of day…

When I AM YAHWEH THE LORD, Called

“Adam, where are you?

Genesis 3:8-24 and Hebrews 4:12.

“And-it was…

Easter-Two-Edged-Flaming-SWORD

“the Seventh Day Sabbath of your LORD GOD.

“For GOD thus concerning the Seventh Day

“In times past through the prophets, Spoke

“But in these last days, Today,

“Speaking by THE SON

WHEN you hear HIS VOICE

“Harden not your heart!

That is How “the Sabbath was Made

How “God Finished the Seventh Day

How “God Blessed the Seventh Day

How “God Hallowed the Seventh Day

When “THUS GOD THE WORD

That “in the beginning Was,

Finishing Fulfilling and Completing

“On the Seventh Day, Rested—

How “God, Reviving, the Seventh Day, Rested.”

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Only its Maker is able to be the Changer of the Sabbath Day and its worship, what Big Mouth Little Horn Piet Pompies thought he was able to do, and thought he was doing, but could not because he has no power to.
Jesus is Lord of the sabbath. Jesus entered the synagogues and criticized the Jews for breaking the sabbath, and Jesus broke the sabbath laws often to provoke the Jews. The jews wanted to kill Jesus for breaking the sabbath and ultimately did. Jesus purposely rose on Sunday and only showed up on Sundays there after for 40 days. Jesus is now our sabbath rest.
Hebrews 4:1-10 -
Therefore, let us fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good news preached to us, just as they also; but the word they heard did not profit them, because it was not united by faith in those who heard. 3 For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said,

“As I swore in My wrath,
They shall not enter My rest,”
although His works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this passage, “They shall not enter My rest.” 6 Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience, 7 He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,

“Today if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.

If you have accepted Christ as Savior and are born again from above, you have entered the Sabbath rest in Jesus, not on Saturday. Jesus favored showing up on Sunday after His resurrection
 

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Only its Maker is able to be the Changer of the Sabbath Day and its worship, what Big Mouth Little Horn Piet Pompies thought he was able to do, and thought, he was doing, but could not – because he has no power to.



How “the Sabbath was Made”



Having made heaven and earth and all in them in six days,

God the Seventh Day then made the Sabbath.


Having of the Seventh Day made the Sabbath,

God blessed the Seventh Day Sabbath the Son of Man is LORD of.


Having blessed the Seventh Day thus, and

God on it resting, the Seventh Day finished

all his work He had made and done for man.

“For God thus concerning the Seventh Day spake:

“God the Seventh Day sanctified and made holy:

“Sabbath of the LORD your GOD,

“for GOD the Seventh Day REVIVING, RESTED.”



God’s changing the Seventh Day is how “the Sabbath was made for man.”

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Jesus is Lord of the sabbath. Jesus entered the synagogues and criticized the Jews for breaking the sabbath, and Jesus broke the sabbath laws often to provoke the Jews. The jews wanted to kill Jesus for breaking the sabbath and ultimately did. Jesus purposely rose on Sunday and only showed up on Sundays there after for 40 days. Jesus is now our sabbath rest.
Hebrews 4:1-10 -
Therefore, let us fear if, while a promise remains of entering His rest, any one of you may seem to have come short of it. 2 For indeed we have had good news preached to us, just as they also; but the word they heard did not profit them, because it was not united by faith in those who heard. 3 For we who have believed enter that rest, just as He has said,

“As I swore in My wrath,
They shall not enter My rest,”
although His works were finished from the foundation of the world. 4 For He has said somewhere concerning the seventh day: “And God rested on the seventh day from all His works”; 5 and again in this passage, “They shall not enter My rest.” 6 Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience, 7 He again fixes a certain day, “Today,” saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before,

“Today if you hear His voice,
Do not harden your hearts.”
8 For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that. 9 So there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God. 10 For the one who has entered His rest has himself also rested from his works, as God did from His.

If you have accepted Christ as Savior and are born again from above, you have entered the Sabbath rest in Jesus, not on Saturday. Jesus favored showing up on Sunday after His resurrection

In full agreement with the Seventh day Adventists, who believe, confess and prophetically propagate exactly, 'If you have accepted Christ as Savior and are born again from above, you have entered the Sabbath rest in Jesus' resurrection, not on Saturday, Jesus favored showing up on Sunday.' BRAVO!
 

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How Seventh day Adventists create the LIE that Sunday worship overtook Sabbath observance 7. 20260307​

Finley:

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Do we have extrabiblical7:56 evidence, evidence outside the Bible that those in those early centuries, say8:03 the first century, the second, the third, believers were keeping the Bible8:08 Sabbath?



StopLook:


Why <
those early centuries, say8:03 the first century, the second, the third>, only? Why not all these subsequent centuries until the twenty first? Because then the Adventists might no longer look like <believers keeping>, rescuing and restoring <the Bible Sabbath>.



Finley:

We do. Josephus, the early Jewish historian, puts it this way. He8:14 writes that there was no city, I'm quoting, “where the Seventh Day Sabbath8:20 had not spread.” So here you have Josephus writing, there's no city in the8:26 first century where the Seventh Day Sabbath has not spread.



StopLook:

Josephus did not write <there's no city in the8:26 first century where the Seventh Day Sabbath has not spread>. He simply must have written that there was no city of the empire where the Seventh Day Sabbath as Christian practice, has not spread, because it was no secret the whole world before, for long had known about the Sabbath as a scared and observed day in Judaism, as distinct from Christianity. But the ‘spreading of the Sabbath’ which Josephus records, happened through the Gospel of Christ before the end of the first century being proclaimed in Pentecostal Power of the Holy Spirit. Josephus’ historic record proves that ‘the day of the lord sun’, on the contrary, so “superstitiously venerated” by “former” pagans at the time, for example in the province of Galatia of the Roman empire, by far had lost the ‘spread’ race, or territory, or popularity, so to speak, against the Bible Sabbath observed in ‘early Christianity’ or Church.



Josephus played a part in the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD, and wrote his autobiography, ‘The Life of Flavius Josephus’ before 99AD, in which he explained his actions during the revolt and his collaboration with the Romans afterwards. That there was no city in the first century where the Seventh Day Christian Sabbath, had not <spread>, is de facto evidence found in Josephus, of anything except Sunday sacredness or Sunday observance, anywhere in the then known world at the end of the first century… the very start of all centuries after…

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If the maker of the Sabbath is the only one who can change the day,then the argument against the Sabbath observance today is finished. Because God never changed the day. Nor did he revoke its observance when it was created as Gods gift to us.
<God's gift to us>... John 3:16. The Sabbath is not Gods gift to us---the Sabbath is a law of God to us - a law -, BECAUSE we are transgressors, "treaders down", of God's Sabbath. Our <observance> of God's Sabbath always will be a dishonour to God and his Sabbath. The Only One Who "does honour to the Sabbath", is the "Son Of Man : Lord of the Sabbath".