amigo de christo
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They often reminded of the importance of keeping it in memory .
Steven you aint fooling me .
All you ever do is preach this deconstructionalist stuff .
Why doesn't your "whole Bible view" include Universalism?
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Steven you aint fooling me .
All you ever do is preach this deconstructionalist stuff .
I do it to help people like you that have been fed a steady diet of questionable doctrines.
Like a mushroom, they keep you in the dark and feed you manure. - LOL
amigo de christo
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Who is the one in the dark steven .
The one who has been reminding all of the DIRE NEED to BELEIVE ON CHRIST
or the one who simply preaches a universialism second chance .
DO you ever WONDER WHY the apostels actually WOULD RISK their own lives
to PREACH the dire need TO BELIEVE ON JESUS or perish .
And when folks rejected they moved on and shook the dust off their feet as a testimony against them .
You have no idea what you do or follow .
But here is a fact check . LOOK at what its done to you .
YOU NEVER PREACH BELEIVE ON JESUS , you never preach his g ospel
and unto those who do , YOU COME IN and act as though THEY are in the dark .
Steven its you in the dark . Satan comes for to steal , kill and d estroy . NOT to save .
SO is it any wonder HE GONNA SILENCE THE ONE TRUE GOSPEL that BY which if one do BELEIVE HE IS SAVED .
You bought it . and it sure has silenced your mouth on the preaching of the one true gospel
and even made you come against THOSE WHO DO SO . watch out st even you are in a very dangerous place .
What did the church teach you about the Bible?
Where did it come from? What qualities does it possess?
Rev 22:14 Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and that they may enter the city by the gates.
Rev 22:15 Outside are the dogs and sorcerers and the sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.
Those are about the last verses of Revelation, sort of summary of the final destination of the human race, those who washed their robes and live in the light in the city and those who love and practice falsehood living in darkness outside the city.
Do you see a third option?
And if it is true that God's mercy does not stop at human death, then why are those there living outside the city?
The gates will always stand open, they will never be shut, day or night.
Those outside can enter when they repent.
The finest example of "projection" I have seen in awhile.
amigo de christo
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None of the above even touches on your error my friend . You ask l ots of questions and duck them too .
However to answer these .
What did the church teach me about the bible . IT DIDNT . i grew up pretty much pagan .
When GOD drew me to Christ back in two thousand and six
HE PUT me into the lovely bible . And with a l ove for reading it . You all have no idea
what has occurred my friend . Nor do many within christendom realize what has been lost
And more so THEY ARE STILLL lost .
NOW BIBLE UP and quit heeding them deconstructoinists . Cause the path you are on
IS A REAL broad one indeed .
Do you some reading and YOU SEE WHO they preached and YOU SEE how dire warnings were left .
Then ask yourself , WHY do i , STEVEN , constantly go about trying to teach UNVERSAILSM
WHEN THEY ALL PREACHED RATHER REPENT AND BELEIVE ASAP or prepare to perish and to wail .
You bought a lie . A well twisted one i admit , but a lie none the less .
Now if you really do have love and a heart for the people .
GET BUSY PREACHING JESUS and cease with the universalism junk . CAUSE JESUS , I KNOW HE SAVES.
amigo de christo
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Ye shall understand st steven b etter after the hearing of the parable of the golden water and chocolate manna .
Once upon a time there dwelt a high high tower that reached unto the clouds .
And every day over the loud speaker men from on high and within said tower
would cry come ye and f east upon our lovely golden water and the chocolate manna of our isms .
And every day the masses would gather at the chutes
from which ran down the sides of the high and mighty tower of men in the clouds .
One day a sheep was walking by and seen them .
He then said to them , WHY do you go running unto the tower of men of the isms
for to b e fed .
And they answered . For they b e our gods and feed us and do water us .
To which the sheep replied , they are but m en and not GOD .
Ye have exalted men . To which they laughed and mocked at the sheep and said
Alas you wee silly thing . How can men b uild such a tower that reaches to the heavens
and is so well built that there is no way for us to go up to them
and no way for them to come down to us . The walls are sealed . no way up no way down .
TO which the sheep then replied
IF t hese high and mighty men and women of the isms cannot come down
Where do they rid their waste .
AND IT DIDNT TAKE TOO LONG for a few to realize
OOPSY , maybe that is why the manna was brown and the water YELLOW as gold . IT the wee and dung of MEN , NOT
THE TRUTH OF GOD at all . just a friendly reminder to remind us to beware of the isms
Take a good long whiff before one sips or eats what men feed .
Fair enough.
What were those raised in the church taught about the Bible?
- The inspired word of God (every word) Regardless of the translation.
- Inerrant
- Infallible
Overview of the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy
The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy (CSBI) was formulated in 1978 by over 200 evangelical leaders during a conference held in Chicago. This statement aimed to affirm the belief in the inerrancy of the Bible, countering liberal interpretations and higher biblical criticism.Key Components of the Statement
Inerrancy Statement
- Definition: Inerrancy applies only to the original manuscripts of the Bible, which no longer exist but can be inferred from existing copies.
- Interpretation: The statement clarifies that inerrancy does not imply a strict literal interpretation. It acknowledges different literary genres, such as history, poetry, and metaphor.
- Scope: It asserts that biblical infallibility extends beyond spiritual themes to include historical and scientific assertions.
Hermeneutics Statement
- Purpose: This statement, adopted in 1982, emphasizes the importance of understanding the meaning of Scripture in relation to inerrancy.
- Exegesis: It highlights the need for grammatical-historical exegesis to interpret biblical texts accurately.
Biblical Application Statement
- Focus: Adopted in 1986, this statement addresses how biblical teachings should influence Christian ethics and community life.
Significance and Reception
The CSBI is regarded as a foundational document for evangelical beliefs about Scripture. It was signed by notable figures such as J. I. Packer and R. C. Sproul. However, it has faced criticism, particularly regarding its stance on evolution and its perceived political motivations within evangelicalism. Critics argue that it oversimplifies complex theological issues and may alienate some within the faith community.
The church failed to teach that biblical inerrancy applies only to the original manuscripts of the Bible, which no longer exist but can be inferred from existing copies. Even this admission is questionable. No errors? Seriously?
Which is more pure? - The Bible, or Ivory Soap?
Answer: Ivory Soap is rated as 99.44% pure.The Bible is rated as 99.5% pure.
Therefore, the Bible is MORE pure than Ivory soap.
But, does it float? - LOL
How Accurate is the Bible? | Bible.org
The New Testament can be regarded as 99.5 percent pure, and the correct readings for the remaining 0.5 percent can often be ascertained with a fair degree of probability by the practice of textual criticism. C. The Time Span of Manuscripts ... The Bible places great stress on accurate historical details, and... (continued at source)
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Lk 11:35 Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.
Thanks. I'm familiar with Wallace. Well known for his work on the NET translation.
He's honest about the corruption of the New Testament.
Given all the problems he uncovers, I'm surprised at his conclusions about them.
But the facts help to develop a realistic view about it.
What we might call the reliability of the NT, is really the translators best guesses.
500,000 textual variants. More variants than words in the NT.
Wallace says only a small percentage of those variants actually effect the texts.
But this means that the standard claims made by the church about the Bible are false.
I do agree with Wallace that the essential beliefs of the church are preserved in the Bible.
But I suppose there would be disagreements among us about WHAT those are.
In the Q&A Wallace whitewashes the contradictions in the gospel accounts.
Now I want to watch a debate between Wallace and Ehrman.
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Wallace says that we can be relatively confident that the original meaning is found in the manuscripts. 46:19
Relatively confident. That's not what the church declares.
The two extreme views are:
- Radical skepticism
- Absolute certainty
The truth is somewhere in between.
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