Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

[1stCenturyLady]

cryus was a part in helping israel to build the earthen temple .
Todays cryrus in a co helper to keeping israel far from the TRUE TEMPLE which be in heaven and not of earth .
I suggest we get our minds off th is so called message of these men of today .
Who have acted like the churches mission is to help save israel and peace for israel .
CAUSE it does neither . its been a co helper to only keeping israel FROM THE TRUE peace
and true safety OF GOD and of THE LAMB . and people think satan cannot decieve . OH but he can
and oh but he has . KINDA ODD that in all of this religoius peace plan
this so called good for israel that i see a fat lie . THAT MUSLIMS and us serve the same GOD
and that we just needs to bring the so called abrahamic faiths together as one .
KINDA ODD however is the fact
that THIS ABRAHAM they all t hink they are part of
HIS FAITH WAS IN GOD . not in a lie .
This did not do abraham . WHEN GOD SPOKE abraham b leieved .
Todays version of abraham sure dont POINT TO THE DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE ON JESUS .
AND that makes it NOT OF ABRAHAM , OF MOSES , or teh prophets
NOT OF CHRIST and NOT OF GOD . we all being lied too little lady .
BIBLE TIME and JESUS Preach ing TIME .

Its too bad that Sarah wouldn't wait for the promise of God to her and Abraham, but instead, tried to fulfill God's promise through Hagar, the mother of Muslims.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Its too bad that Sarah wouldn't wait for the promise of God to her and Abraham, but instead, tried to fulfill God's promise through Hagar, the mother of Muslims.

Are you forgetting something...?
When Abraham was informed that Sarah would also have a son from whom “kings of peoples” would come, he petitioned God in behalf of his firstborn: “O that Ishmael might live before you!” God’s reply, after declaring that the future son Isaac would be the covenant heir, was: “As regards Ishmael I have heard you. Look! I will bless him and will make him fruitful and will multiply him very, very much. He will certainly produce twelve chieftains, and I will make him become a great nation.” (Gen 17:16, 18-20)

This was before Isaac was born. Was there a reason why God made this promise......one that would define events in the future?

As a nomadic inhabitant of the Paran Wilderness, he fulfilled the prophecy that said of him: “He will become a zebra of a man. His hand will be against everyone, and the hand of everyone will be against him; and before the face of all his brothers he will tabernacle.” (Gen 21:17-21; 16:12)
Hagar found an Egyptian wife for her son, and true to the prophesy, in time, he fathered 12 sons, chieftains and family heads of the promised “great nation” of Ishmaelites. Ishmael also had at least one daughter, Mahalath, who married Esau.

Think about it....from the Ishmaelites was the origin of Islam. Would world and Christian history be the same without them?

 

[Jay Ross]

That my friend was a lovely question .
POINT THEM and every last one TO the DIRE NECESSITY to BELEIVE ON JESUS the CHRIST .
That is how .
But watch out my friend
For through interfaith interreligious diaologue , THE DIRE NECESSITY to REPENT to BELEIVE ON JESUS
has been OMITTED and BY A LIE .
SO you see there is a peace of the world that cometh of anti christ and of the darkness and of men .
We must avoid this and rather preach the ONLY PEACE a man can have
TO be reconciled to GOD BY FAITH IN THE SON CHRIST JESUS .
WE should stick to the preaching of JESUS to both the jew and gentile .

Be mindful of the warning that Paul gave in this passage from Romans 11: -

11I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. 12Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!

13For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. 15For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?

16For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. 17And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, 18do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.

19You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” 20Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. 22Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. 23And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

25For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, . . . .

 

[amigo de christo]

Its too bad that Sarah wouldn't wait for the promise of God to her and Abraham, but instead, tried to fulfill God's promise through Hagar, the mother of Muslims.

yeah i would not buy into that hagar mother of muslims . its source is ISLAM .
However , even if it were true
IF the f lesh didnt profit those born of the seed of issac
Well it wont profit those born of the bondwomen .
IN other words , Abraham had many descendants .
But not all are of , t ruly of abraham . FOR IF they were THEY HAD DONE the works of abraham .
HEY , JESUS Didnt give the jews a pass
so lets not get on the muslim boat as though somehow an anti christ religoin gonna save them .
Nope . They might cliam , as did the unbeliving jews , HEY we are of abraham
HEY we beleive moses . buT NO SIR and NO MAM . HAD THEY HEARD MOSES they had BELIEVED JESUS
for Moses wrote of HIM .
ALL are in darkness . ONL Y JESUS saves and can set one free from the power of satan and of darkn ess .
SO kick that ol anti christ ecumenical whore out ta all places and churches , HER Doctrine and her love
are BAD NEWS . JESUS preaching time .
NOW you are starting to see why i am hated my sister .
THIS gringo WONT budge from JESUS and i expose a harlots false love . And thus folks who love a lie
DO not want anything to do with men like me .

 

[amigo de christo]

Be mindful of the warning that Paul gave in this passage from Romans 11: -

11I say then, have they stumbled that they should fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles. 12Now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the Gentiles, how much more their fullness!

13For I speak to you Gentiles; inasmuch as I am an apostle to the Gentiles, I magnify my ministry, 14if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh and save some of them. 15For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?

16For if the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy; and if the root is holy, so are the branches. 17And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, 18do not boast against the branches. But if you do boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you.

19You will say then, “Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.” 20Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. 21For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either. 22Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. 23And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 24For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

25For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, . . . .

Just remember
ON the day of the LORD , this sheep never gave jews or gentiles hope in false love .
And i shudder in total and all out terror for those who did .
WE should have preached JESUS . always remember that .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Are you forgetting something...?
When Abraham was informed that Sarah would also have a son from whom “kings of peoples” would come, he petitioned God in behalf of his firstborn: “O that Ishmael might live before you!” God’s reply, after declaring that the future son Isaac would be the covenant heir, was: “As regards Ishmael I have heard you. Look! I will bless him and will make him fruitful and will multiply him very, very much. He will certainly produce twelve chieftains, and I will make him become a great nation.” (Gen 17:16, 18-20)

This was before Isaac was born. Was there a reason why God made this promise......one that would define events in the future?

As a nomadic inhabitant of the Paran Wilderness, he fulfilled the prophecy that said of him: “He will become a zebra of a man. His hand will be against everyone, and the hand of everyone will be against him; and before the face of all his brothers he will tabernacle.” (Gen 21:17-21; 16:12)
Hagar found an Egyptian wife for her son, and true to the prophesy, in time, he fathered 12 sons, chieftains and family heads of the promised “great nation” of Ishmaelites. Ishmael also had at least one daughter, Mahalath, who married Esau.

Think about it....from the Ishmaelites was the origin of Islam. Would world and Christian history be the same without them?

Of course, Abraham loved him. But Abraham wouldn't have had Ishmael if it wasn't for Sarah's big idea.

 

[Jay Ross]

Just remember
ON the day of the LORD , this sheep never gave jews or gentiles hope in false love .
And i shudder in total and all out terror for those who did .
WE should have preached JESUS . always remember that .

Amigo, sadly many Christians came to hate the Israelites and drove them further away from God's Salvation promises found in the various prophets' words. Many so called Christians will be judged with the Kings of the earth at Armageddon because of the part they/we played in the Little Horns plans to trample God's sanctuary and His earthly hosts.

We Christians, even today, do not understand God Salvation for the nation of Israel or when that salvation is set to begin.

We should not have "preached" JESUS at them but rather we should have demonstrated the difference the Jesus is making in our lives today.

How do we demonstrate that we are believers and disciples of Christ? By the way we live our lives as an example of how Christ would have us live.

How we live demonstrates that we worship their Messiah and that they too can also worship their Messiah as well.

We all need to learn to live humble and to be forever repenting of our sins.

Is Christianity like a perfumed garden that others, Jews included, will be drawn into its splendor.

Is my life a perfect example of how others should also live.

In our worship time this morning the music lead us to sing, "I want to know more about you Jesus," rather than simply singing, "I need to know more about you Jesus."

Is your song one of wanting to know more about Jesus rather than one of needing to know more about Jesus.

There is a big difference between the two.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Should we support the state of Israel or not as Christians? Thank you

We either support Israel or the Terrorists, there is no sitting on the fence in this war. Israel is fighting for it's existence, so if you believe it has the right to exist, then you should support Israel.

Israel's enemies are hell bent on it's total destruction, there is no provision for a peaceful resolution. Israel wants peace, but the enemy wants to fight to the death.

It's easy for armchair critics in the west, who enjoy peace and prosperity to call self defence genocide, that's the height of ignorance and foolishness.

 

[Christian Soldier]

Amigo, sadly many Christians came to hate the Israelites and drove them further away from God's Salvation promises found in the various prophets' words. Many so called Christians will be judged with the Kings of the earth at Armageddon because of the part they/we played in the Little Horns plans to trample God's sanctuary and His earthly hosts.

We Christians, even today, do not understand God Salvation for the nation of Israel or when that salvation is set to begin.

We should not have "preached" JESUS at them but rather we should have demonstrated the difference the Jesus is making in our lives today.

How do we demonstrate that we are believers and disciples of Christ? By the way we live our lives as an example of how Christ would have us live.

How we live demonstrates that we worship their Messiah and that they too can also worship their Messiah as well.

We all need to learn to live humble and to be forever repenting of our sins.

Is Christianity like a perfumed garden that others, Jews included, will be drawn into its splendor.

Is my life a perfect example of how others should also live.

In our worship time this morning the music lead us to sing, "I want to know more about you Jesus," rather than simply singing, "I need to know more about you Jesus."

Is your song one of wanting to know more about Jesus rather than one of needing to know more about Jesus.

There is a big difference between the two.

The Israel of God is not a nation, it's the Body of Christ, also known as the Church. I don't know of any New Testament scriptures, which support the idea that Gods has a separate or special plan of redemption or salvation for National Israel. But there are many which confirm that there are no Jews or Gentiles in the Body of Christ.

As far as I understand it, God has blinded the Jews, or as some say He has given them a spirit of stupor, so they are unable to believe the gospel. This restriction will be lifted off them, when the last elect Gentile, is added to the Church (Christ's Body)

The Nation of Israel was not chosen for salvation, it was chosen to bare witness and glorify God among the nations. We know that God killed tens of thousands in a single day for their disobedience. So their names were obviously not written in the book of life, in other words God did not elect them for salvation before He created the world.

My ancestry is white European, but I am a part of "the Israel of God". For we are not Jews by circumcision, but we are circumcised of the heart. Our circumcision is a inward spiritual circumcision.

If we live faithful lives, by living the gospel, then our aroma has the stench of death to those who God has not chosen for salvation. But it will have a sweet smelling aroma to Gods chosen people.

I have been threatened with weapons, for sharing the gospel, whilst taking part in our door knocking outreach ministry. The gospel is a highly offensive message to unbelievers, because it reveals that they will be tormented in the lake of fire for all eternity, if they die in their sin. The truth does hurt and offend.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Of course, Abraham loved him. But Abraham wouldn't have had Ishmael if it wasn't for Sarah's big idea.

God did not prevent it....and he didn’t tell Sarah not to give her Egyptian handmaiden to Abraham in order to give her a son in her old age.....it didn’t break God’s law at the time....and only a woman knows what’s like to desire children.....especially in Israel, where children were seen as a blessing from God.

“God knows the end from the beginning” of all things.....and where certain conduct in the future is going to play out in the big scheme of things. That is what prophesy is all about. It is history written in advance.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

God did not prevent it....and he didn’t tell Sarah not to give her Egyptian handmaiden to Abraham in order to give her a son in her old age.....it didn’t break God’s law at the time....and only a woman knows what’s like to desire children.....especially in Israel, where children were seen as a blessing from God.

“God knows the end from the beginning” of all things.....and where certain conduct in the future is going to play out in the big scheme of things. That is what prophesy is all about. It is history written in advance.

God lets us learn from our mistakes, but the point is, it wasn't God's will that they turn to Hagar to produce the promised son. Isaac was the son of promise. Ishmael was the son of the sin nature flesh. Each represented a future covenant. The first was the ministry of death. The second was the ministry of the Spirit. "8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God."

 

[Marvelloustime]

yeah i would not buy into that hagar mother of muslims . its source is ISLAM .
However , even if it were true
IF the f lesh didnt profit those born of the seed of issac
Well it wont profit those born of the bondwomen .
IN other words , Abraham had many descendants .
But not all are of , t ruly of abraham . FOR IF they were THEY HAD DONE the works of abraham .
HEY , JESUS Didnt give the jews a pass
so lets not get on the muslim boat as though somehow an anti christ religoin gonna save them .
Nope . They might cliam , as did the unbeliving jews , HEY we are of abraham
HEY we beleive moses . buT NO SIR and NO MAM . HAD THEY HEARD MOSES they had BELIEVED JESUS
for Moses wrote of HIM .
ALL are in darkness . ONL Y JESUS saves and can set one free from the power of satan and of darkn ess .
SO kick that ol anti christ ecumenical whore out ta all places and churches , HER Doctrine and her love
are BAD NEWS . JESUS preaching time .
NOW you are starting to see why i am hated my sister .
THIS gringo WONT budge from JESUS and i expose a harlots false love . And thus folks who love a lie
DO not want anything to do with men like me .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Leaven leavens . oh even a wee bit of leaven surely can l eaven .
The question is
WHEN are folks gonna stop si tting under men
and get b ack into the bible for themselves .
cause we got two choices , continue this course and wear out and sell out , WHICH MANY have done and will do
OR we can get our rumps b ack into the bible and stop trusting in our DENOMINATION
and etc .
Cause read my lips , THIS SHEEP DONT COMPROMISE
nor should any . But it sure would have been so simple , IF only
IF i say and IF ONLY
oh if and if ONLY people had returned to JUST and i say JUST and i mean JUST the BIBLE .
GET THE HECK OUT of d enomantions
and into the bible .
OR expect ONLY continued co rrection . WHICH in time gonna wear you out too .
PEOPLE cannot stand firm day in and day out on a slippery slope , they will wear out .
BUT THOSE who stand upon TRUTH , HAVE THE LORD and HE shall supply them as they have need .
SO .
SEW
and SO again . BIBLE TIME , DENOMINATION EVACUTATION TIME . the choice be yours .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

cryus was a part in helping israel to build the earthen temple .
Todays cryrus in a co helper to keeping israel far from the TRUE TEMPLE which be in heaven and not of earth .
I suggest we get our minds off th is so called message of these men of today .
Who have acted like the churches mission is to help save israel and peace for israel .
CAUSE it does neither . its been a co helper to only keeping israel FROM THE TRUE peace
and true safety OF GOD and of THE LAMB . and people think satan cannot decieve . OH but he can
and oh but he has . KINDA ODD that in all of this religoius peace plan
this so called good for israel that i see a fat lie . THAT MUSLIMS and us serve the same GOD
and that we just needs to bring the so called abrahamic faiths together as one .
KINDA ODD however is the fact
that THIS ABRAHAM they all t hink they are part of
HIS FAITH WAS IN GOD . not in a lie .
This did not do abraham . WHEN GOD SPOKE abraham b leieved .
Todays version of abraham sure dont POINT TO THE DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE ON JESUS .
AND that makes it NOT OF ABRAHAM , OF MOSES , or teh prophets
NOT OF CHRIST and NOT OF GOD . we all being lied too little lady .
BIBLE TIME and JESUS Preach ing TIME .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

Hear ye the parable of the free that is in bondage
and those in bondage and yet are free .
THEN PONDER AND PRAY ABOUT IT .
There are many that live in democratic socities free from the opression and tyranny of men
and yet are in bondage to death and sin .
There are many that live in horrendous conditions , b eing chased from town to town
some being lit on fire , some heads cut off
and yet they are FREE and not in bondage .
AND NOW let us learn and understand that this peace plan this idea of peace
for isreal , WILL NOT SAVE israel but has allowed the lie of death to remain upon them .
Now get every man , woman and child far f rom this peace for israel and ecumeincal movement .
THIS peace plan is bad news . and these leaders cannot save israel , in fact
they are part of the plan that will leave them in bondage to sin and to death .
Preach JESUS and let’s get the heck out of this political nightmare .

@amigo de christo

 

[Jay Ross]

As far as I understand it, God has blinded the Jews, or as some say He has given them a spirit of stupor, so they are unable to believe the gospel. This restriction will be lifted off them, when the last elect Gentile, is added to the Church (Christ's Body)

As an Australian believer, I do not hold to your understanding of Romans 11:25b-26. When the visitation of the fathers' iniquities on their children and their children's children, ends at the end of the fourth age, and the completion of the fullness of time of the Gentiles is completed, after both of these prophetic words being completed, then all of Israel will be saved by God. The completion of both of these prophetic words will occur in around 20 years from now. In Ezekiel 34 God clearly states that it is He who will gather/draw the nation of Israel to Himself and this is He who will plant them in His fertile field set aside for the nation of Israel and that He will teach them on His Hill in the Land of Canaan and sprinkle them with water to cleanse them so that they can become His Nation of Priests, a Holy Nation and His Possession among the Nations.

You may have a love for Christ, but your understanding of God's love for all of the Israelites is missing. God wants us to Bless the Nation of Israel. He wants us to Bless Isreal and to lift them up to fulfil God's purposes in His Salvation Plan for all of the peoples of the earth. My eyes have seen and my ears have heard God's working to bring Salvation to the People of Israel.

We Christians can give praise and glory to God for what He is doing among the people of the Nation of Israel and thank Him for giving us A Holy Priesthood to draw the Gentiles to God as well as encouraging us Gentiles to inhabit His fertile fields set aside for the Gentiles to inhabit.

All that I can do with respect to the Salvation of all of nation of Israel is to Give God the Glory for what He is doing redeeming Israel to Himself.

Shalom

 

[Christian Soldier]

As an Australian believer, I do not hold to your understanding of Romans 11:25b-26. When the visitation of the fathers' iniquities on their children and their children's children, ends at the end of the fourth age, and the completion of the fullness of time of the Gentiles is completed, after both of these prophetic words being completed, then all of Israel will be saved by God. The completion of both of these prophetic words will occur in around 20 years from now. In Ezekiel 34 God clearly states that it is He who will gather/draw the nation of Israel to Himself and this is He who will plant them in His fertile field set aside for the nation of Israel and that He will teach them on His Hill in the Land of Canaan and sprinkle them with water to cleanse them so that they can become His Nation of Priests, a Holy Nation and His Possession among the Nations.

You may have a love for Christ, but your understanding of God's love for all of the Israelites is missing. God wants us to Bless the Nation of Israel. He wants us to Bless Isreal and to lift them up to fulfil God's purposes in His Salvation Plan for all of the peoples of the earth. My eyes have seen and my ears have heard God's working to bring Salvation to the People of Israel.

We Christians can give praise and glory to God for what He is doing among the people of the Nation of Israel and thank Him for giving us A Holy Priesthood to draw the Gentiles to God as well as encouraging us Gentiles to inhabit His fertile fields set aside for the Gentiles to inhabit.

All that I can do with respect to the Salvation of all of nation of Israel is to Give God the Glory for what He is doing redeeming Israel to Himself.

Shalom

You seem to have missed the fact that Israel will never be Gods chosen people again. If anything, they are currently at the bottom of the pecking order, in Gods economy.

Ezekiel has nothing to do with the Church age, the Church has replaced Israel as Gods chosen people. The Lord Jesus Christ is the Almighty Jehovah God, creator of all things that exist.

Israel was under the covenant of the law, the Church is under the covenant of grace. The Jews had to keep the law and make sacrifices for their salvation. Christians don't have to do anything to be saved, I am already saved and no amount of sin can cause me to lose my salvation. God slaughtered Israelites by the tens of thousands in a single day, for their disobedience.

So there's a big difference between Israel and the Church. Israel will never receive any special treatment from God again, they lost their privileges and they no longer enjoy Gods favoured status. Israel is being punished and chastened, for the past 2000 years, because it committed hi treason by murdering the Lord Jesus Christ.

The truth is, the Lord Jesus is returning with a legion of Angels to wage war on the nations (including Israel). Billions will be slaughtered, as the Lord Jesus takes vengeance on those who rejected Him. He will then destroy the entire earth with super hot lava and nothing will remain alive. There will be no promised land, for Israel or the gentiles on this earth.

 

[amigo de christo]

God lets us learn from our mistakes, but the point is, it wasn't God's will that they turn to Hagar to produce the promised son. Isaac was the son of promise. Ishmael was the son of the sin nature flesh. Each represented a future covenant. The first was the ministry of death. The second was the ministry of the Spirit. "8 So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God."

IF ye were truly of abraham ye had done the works of abraham .
whether a man came of the lineage of ISSAC
or whether a man came of the lineage of ishmael
The flesh profits them nothing .
Whether a man came of the lineage of any
will have profited him nothing .
What profits .
JESUS DOES . And its time , and not only time but high time , the church return
to that message .
We know the apostels preached it to every jew and later to the gentiles .
We know they shook the dust off as a testimony against any who rejected the very testimony OF GOD
that HE gave of the SON .
They followed the TRUE SHEPARD of the sheep .
The one who said , AND THEY BELIEVED ,
I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE and NO , NO man cometh to the Father but by me .
And if you believe NOT that I AM HE
you shall die in your sins . To go and preach the gospel to all
and that who so ever hears and believes shall be saved
but he who beleives not shall be damned. TO even shake the dust off your feet as a testimony
against those who reject , FOR WOE it will be far worse for them than EVER it was for sodom
ON THE DAY OF THE L ORD . seeing JESUS said it , WELL I beleive it .
BUT that all who come TO ME have EVERLASTING LIFE. TIME it is and it is TIME
we get real busy preaching HIM with the dire need to beleive or perish .

 

[amigo de christo]

As an Australian believer, I do not hold to your understanding of Romans 11:25b-26. When the visitation of the fathers' iniquities on their children and their children's children, ends at the end of the fourth age, and the completion of the fullness of time of the Gentiles is completed, after both of these prophetic words being completed, then all of Israel will be saved by God. The completion of both of these prophetic words will occur in around 20 years from now. In Ezekiel 34 God clearly states that it is He who will gather/draw the nation of Israel to Himself and this is He who will plant them in His fertile field set aside for the nation of Israel and that He will teach them on His Hill in the Land of Canaan and sprinkle them with water to cleanse them so that they can become His Nation of Priests, a Holy Nation and His Possession among the Nations.

You may have a love for Christ, but your understanding of God's love for all of the Israelites is missing. God wants us to Bless the Nation of Israel. He wants us to Bless Isreal and to lift them up to fulfil God's purposes in His Salvation Plan for all of the peoples of the earth. My eyes have seen and my ears have heard God's working to bring Salvation to the People of Israel.

We Christians can give praise and glory to God for what He is doing among the people of the Nation of Israel and thank Him for giving us A Holy Priesthood to draw the Gentiles to God as well as encouraging us Gentiles to inhabit His fertile fields set aside for the Gentiles to inhabit.

All that I can do with respect to the Salvation of all of nation of Israel is to Give God the Glory for what He is doing redeeming Israel to Himself.

Shalom

well its not a blessing to allow one to remain in sin and unbeleif .
its not a blessing to tell the unbeleving jews or gentiles
that all religoins serve the same GOD and are coming to him in different ways .
its A CURSE that allows all to remain UNDER THE CURSE .
And beleive me when i do say , there is NO LOVE OF GOD IN T HAT .
FOR GOD came to save
GOD would correct sin and error and those in unbelief .
His message of love and of peace WOULD NOT HAVE rejected the DIRE NEED to repent to bELIEVE on JESUS .
AS HAS the love of a harlot which has lied to all nations and religoins
and bodly said on stage THAT ALL religoins are coming to GOD differently and in different ways
and t hat the GOD of the christain is no bet ter than the god of the muslim or any othe religoin .
THEY LIED TO EVERY LAST one of them . But the church just claps and says OH this is the way to peace
let us all be one . The only peace they gonna see ON THE DAY of the LORD
is SUDDEN destruction of wrath upon them all . Remember
i did point to JESUS .
Remember i never gave out , nor did i allow , a lie upon this people . I warned against it
and pointed ONLY TO JESUS with the dire reminder YE MUST beleive or perish .

 

[amigo de christo]

Its too bad that Sarah wouldn't wait for the promise of God to her and Abraham, but instead, tried to fulfill God's promise through Hagar, the mother of Muslims.

Yes and sadly many now rather heed a promise of a well favored harlot
and not rather BELEIVE ON THE PROMISE OF GOD
the very promise that IF ONE BELIEVED ON JESUS HE WOULD BE SAVED .
OH it has been replaced with the love of a harlot which implies
iT dont matter what religoin one was of , hey we all served the same GOD
lets be one for world peace . Her lie b e of anti christ
her lie be of the devil
And i got to say , That ol devil dont desire LIFE or good for any
But rather the d eath and destruction of all .
SO lets not buy the lie , LETS BUY THE TRUTH and sell her not for a lie .