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ScottA

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No. It is you with the error on this.

Jesus mentions the false Christs. The rider on the white horse which carries a bow is the exact weapon of the false Christ as you will see with Tammuz, Horus and Apollo, etc. etc. etc. They carry a bow. This is the beast of the earth or the 7th king.

Matthew 24
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Here is the second false Christ that Jesus warns the Jews about. This is the beast of the sea which will be found in the desert, in the secret burial chamber. He was and is not and will come again. He is the eighth king.

Matthew 24
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

The seals will not be open until the Church is raptured as we can see in Revelation 5.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
You are being selective to support the doctrines of men, which you have believed.

When was the "rapture" of the thief on the cross that Jesus said, "today you will be with Me in Paradise?"

What I have said, I said by that same Spirit according to that same truth, but it was not me speaking.
 

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Revelation 6:1
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

The beasts are the four knight.

I don't think it is a good word for the four knight. Cuz it is a beast.
 
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You are being selective to support the doctrines of men, which you have believed.
No. I believe in two raptures, just like the Word of God says.

Anyone that thinks that the Lord comes only once does not understand the Word of God.

The Lord is coming in an hour that you think not, just as He says.

We are to watch for His coming. If He only comes at the end of wrath there is no need to watch as instructed.

Anyone that does not believe that we can escape ALL THESE THINGS that will come to pass and STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN, doesn't believe the Word of God.

When was the "rapture" of the thief on the cross that Jesus said, "today you will be with Me in Paradise?"
Has nothing to do with the rapture.
 

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The sun does not stop shining. It is darkened.

Rev_6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

It stops shining, going black which is also what being darkened means. So of the sun is black, the moon cannot be red. It will also be black because it gets light from the sun.





And according to scripture the moon will be both darkened and as blood at the 6th seal.

Same color. Blood can be black/dark.


This, of course, as shown earlier proves that your timeline is in error. Face FACTS. Face scripture. The 6th seal is the end of the tribulation and the 7th seal is the beginning and the end of wrath.


No, your timeline is in error.
 

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No. I believe in two raptures, just like the Word of God says.

Anyone that thinks that the Lord comes only once does not understand the Word of God.

The Lord is coming in an hour that you think not, just as He says.

We are to watch for His coming. If He only comes at the end of wrath there is no need to watch as instructed.

Anyone that does not believe that we can escape ALL THESE THINGS that will come to pass and STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN, doesn't believe the Word of God.
Just because you "believe" something doesn't make it true. Are you not just interpreting? Don't get me wrong, some of what you say is true. But how did you come by what it is that you "believe?"

Has nothing to do with the rapture.
What men describe as the "rapture" is the rapturous experience of passing from death to life: In life, as "changed"; in death, as passing from time to eternity. This was the promise of Christ to the thief on the cross who believed.
 

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Rev_6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

It stops shining, going black which is also what being darkened means. So of the sun is black, the moon cannot be red. It will also be black because it gets light from the sun.
So you say that the moon cannot be as blood as the sun stops shining.

Well we know you are in error again because the scripture LITERALLY says the moon is as blood. That would be red.

Same color. Blood can be black/dark.

And yet the scripture says the moon is as blood. That would be red.
No, your timeline is in error.
You have already proven that your timeline is in error. Good Job.
 

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So you say that the moon cannot be as blood as the sun stops shining.

No, the moon wioll be as blood, just not red. Blood isn't just red.


Well we know you are in error again because the scripture LITERALLY says the moon is as blood. That would be red.


Wrong. It will b e dark since dark/black is a color blood can be.


And yet the scripture says the moon is as blood. That would be red.


Blood isn't only red. It's blue in the body, and outside of the body it can be red, brown or black. When the sun becomes black, the only possible color of the moon is also black since there is no light.
 

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Just because you "believe" something doesn't make it true. Are you not just interpreting? Don't get me wrong, some of what you say is true. But how did you come by what it is that you "believe?"
This scripture made me realize there are two raptures. One for the Gentiles and one for the Jews.

Hosea 9
10 I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness; I saw your fathers as the firstripe in the fig tree at her first time: but they went to Baalpeor, and separated themselves unto that shame; and their abominations were according as they loved.

God saw the fathers of Israel as the first ripe in the fig tree at her first time. That means God saw the fathers as the first fruits of the first harvest. However, they went to Baalpeor and would no longer be the be the first harvest. The Gentiles become the first harvest.

The Jews eyes are darkened. The salvation of the Gentiles provokes them to jealously.

Romans 11
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

When the fullness of the Gentiles comes in at the rapture of the Church before the great tribulation, part of Israel will have its eyes opened.

Romans 11
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

The fig tree as two harvests.
Days of Noah, Days of Lot.
One coming at the trump of God or voice of God, one coming at the last trump blown on the Feast of Trumpets the fall harvest feast.
One coming the Lord Himself comes, one coming He sends His angels to gather the elect.

I could go on and on, however................
The fact that there are 144,000 first fruits from 12 tribes of Israel should tell you there will be a harvest of the 12 tribes of Israel.
He will come for that harvest at the 6th seal.
He will also come in an hour that you think not.
Anyone that thinks that there will not be a secret pretribulation rapture does not understand the Word of God and will be caught not watching.
 

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No, the moon wioll be as blood, just not red. Blood isn't just red.





Wrong. It will b e dark since dark/black is a color blood can be.





Blood isn't only red. It's blue in the body, and outside of the body it can be red, brown or black. When the sun becomes black, the only possible color of the moon is also black since there is no light.
Well, I've seen a lot of blood moons. Not once have they been black. There's always an excuse as to why you cannot accept the written Word of God...........always an excuse.
 

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Well, I've seen a lot of blood moons. Not once have they been black.

I knew you would say that. It was red because the sun was shining. The bible prophecy in the 6th seal is a black sun. The moon cannot be red in total darkness.




There's always an excuse as to why you cannot accept the written Word of God...........always an excuse.

That applies to you not me.
 

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I knew you would say that. It was red because the sun was shining. The bible prophecy in the 6th seal is a black sun. The moon cannot be red in total darkness.

Exactly, which proves my point. The 6th seal is NOT the 7th trumpet.
That applies to you not me.
Lots of excuses for not accepting the written Word of God. Always an excuse.
 

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The 6th seal speaks of 7th trump events. Of course a seal is not a trump.
Absolutely not. The 6th seal is the coming of Jesus for a harvest at the end of the great tribulation. The great tribulation is when the beast is killing Jews.

The 7th trumpet is at the end of the 7th seal which is AFTER the 6th seal and is the one-year wrath of God. There is a rapture at the 6th seal because we are not appointed to wrath.

There is no chance whatsoever that the 6th seal is the 7th trumpet.
 

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I knew you would say that. It was red because the sun was shining. The bible prophecy in the 6th seal is a black sun. The moon cannot be red in total darkness.






That applies to you not me.
ab65465da150bf07.pnghave seen the sun was darkened in news,it was not that it doesn't glow,
I can only describe a large dark area in the part of the solar wind,
It's not something that can be seen with the eyes, it's seen by astronomical observation equipment
 
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View attachment 81081have seen the sun was darkened in news,it was not that it doesn't glow,
I can only describe a large dark area in the part of the solar wind,
It's not something that can be seen with the eyes, it's seen by astronomical observation equipment


IMO the various prophecies speak of the sun and stars not giving any light at all, pure darkness. In that situation a red moon is impossible.
 

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IMO the various prophecies speak of the sun and stars not giving any light at all, pure darkness. In that situation a red moon is impossible.
Which proves you are wrong because Word of God says the moon will be as blood. We know what a blood moon looks like. There is a reason it is called a blood moon and it's not because it's black.
 

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Which proves you are wrong because Word of God says the moon will be as blood.

Blood can be different colors. When the Sun is black, so will be the moon. Red cannot be seen with no sunlight.


We know what a blood moon looks like. There is a reason it is called a blood moon and it's not because it's black.


That's wrong. The bible is misinterpreted all the time and thinking blood can only mean red is a HUGE errant assumption.
 

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Blood can be different colors. When the Sun is black, so will be the moon. Red cannot be seen with no sunlight.
And yet the moon will be as blood at some point. That is Biblical fact no matter how many times you deny the truth.

 

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Blood can be different colors. When the Sun is black, so will be the moon. Red cannot be seen with no sunlight.
Scientifically speaking, if the sun were to stop emitting light, it would take at least 8 minutes and 20 seconds for the Earth and the Moon to completely become dark.