Who can understand? - Ezekiel Chapter 26

[rwb]

Oh, you want chapter and verse? My answer to you is: No. If you don't see and hear the scriptures in what I have said, that is on you. None of which I would do, if you heard or saw but sincerely did not understand. But that is not the case with you--therefore that which you have will be taken from you. So be it.

As for the confirmation, you have confirmed your own position.

No one can see and hear the Scriptures to support your doctrine, because there are no verses of Scripture to prove this unbiblical opinion. Which is why this fanciful view of yours cannot be taken seriously. Where do you get this stuff from because it certainly is NOT from the Word of God.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Why do you pile more on? Much of it is good, and much of it not. But by the sheer quantity, you bring your own cloud of confusion causing error to be multiplied. Begin rather with one thing, that the foundation is first made sure.

But first ask yourself: Which of these things has not existed since the beginning--even beginning with Eve? Name one (before going on). That is why I started with Tyre...and did not rush on to give a full manifesto.

So, yes, it is all not about Russia or even Israel, but was from the beginning--even before the foundation of the world--and only now made manifest. In other words, the key, and the error of prophecy...is that it was "before", and only continues to unfold as revelations made manifest--as a witness before the Judgement.

How interesting that you accuse someone else of bringing their own cloud of confusion (I agree that he does) when you bring nothing but a huge cloud of confusion with almost every post you make. You never speak straightforwardly. Why not? Do you not want anyone to understand anything you're saying? Do you talk mysteriously like this in every day conversations with people in person, too?

 

[ScottA]

No one can see and hear the Scriptures to support your doctrine, because there are no verses of Scripture to prove this unbiblical opinion. Which is why this fanciful view of yours cannot be taken seriously. Where do you get this stuff from because it certainly is NOT from the Word of God.

In giving my explanation of the matter I spoke the same words that are written--but you did not know them.

What manner of would-be "Christian" demands chapter and verse--is that requirement quotable in the scriptures? You wicked servants! Did Elisha demand such when he wanted a double portion, did Peter before he would walk on the sea? No, nor was it ever before practiced. But you are worse than Saul, for though he persecuted his brothers, he did not make such a demand, but was made blind for less.

 

[ScottA]

How interesting that you accuse someone else of bringing their own cloud of confusion (I agree that he does) when you bring nothing but a huge cloud of confusion with almost every post you make. You never speak straightforwardly. Why not? Do you not want anyone to understand anything you're saying? Do you talk mysteriously like this in every day conversations with people in person, too?

Surely you know that just as there are different types of seed and flesh and bodies, there are also different types of clouds. Is it not written, "Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory?" And surely you also know that "The kingdom of God does not come with observation", but comes like the wind and "blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes."

Why then have you expected something different?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Surely you know that just as there are different types of seed and flesh and bodies, there are also different types of clouds. Is is not written, "Then they will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds with great power and glory?" And surely you also know that "The kingdom of God does not come with observation", but comes like the wind and "blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes."

Why then have you expected something different?

The kingdom of God came without observation because it is spiritual and heavenly in nature and "not of this world" (John 18:36). But when Jesus returns, it will be observable in the new heavens and new earth. There is an already, but not yet nature to the kingdom of God that you apparently don't understand. We do not yet have the immortal bodies that we will have when our bodies are all changed at the last trumpet when Jesus returns (1 Corinthians 15:50-54).

 

[ScottA]

The kingdom of God came without observation because it is spiritual and heavenly in nature and "not of this world" (John 18:36). But when Jesus returns, it will be observable in the new heavens and new earth. There is an already, but not yet nature to the kingdom of God that you apparently don't understand. We do not yet have the immortal bodies that we will have when our bodies are all changed at the last trumpet when Jesus returns (1 Corinthians 15:50-54).

I have made bold and enlarged the place in your post above where you have skipped a major part--which is that it all passes away first. Meaning, that what you expect and have expressed as your doctrine and belief, is not even in this realm or reality as you state it--at all--but is in the kingdom of heaven, where, and after, we have all laid down our flesh which is not glorified "immortal" according to the scriptures, but is "dissolved." Meaning, no "covering of skins" as you make it sound, and apparently believe.

So, yes, I do understand. But you--you have mixed what God has not, but is now "dividing" daily, as "the light from the darkness"--that all that remains is "like Him." Which your doctrine cuts the heart out of, against all that is written. Meanwhile, you wrongly assume the highroad.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

I have made bold and enlarged the place in your post above where you have skipped a major part--which is that it all passes away first. Meaning, that what you expect and have expressed as your doctrine and belief, is not even in this realm or reality as you state it--at all--but is in the kingdom of heaven, where, and after, we have all laid down our flesh which is not glorified "immortal" according to the scriptures, but is "dissolved." Meaning, no "covering of skins" as you make it sound, and apparently believe.

So, yes, I do understand.

You understand nothing. And I mean literally nothing. You really need to ask God for wisdom so that you can start understanding some things (James 1:5-7).

But you--you have mixed what God has not, but is now "dividing" daily, as "the light from the darkness"--that all that remains is "like Him."

You speak gibberish. You need to take an English class and learn how to communicate.

Which your doctrine cuts the heart out of, against all that is written. Meanwhile, you wrongly assume the highroad.

You are 100% incapable of refuting my doctrine, as you have proven many times. You are barely even capable of speaking coherently.

 

[ScottA]

You understand nothing. And I mean literally nothing. You really need to ask God for wisdom so that you can start understanding some things (James 1:5-7).


You speak gibberish. You need to take an English class and learn how to communicate.


You are 100% incapable of refuting my doctrine, as you have proven many times. You are barely even capable of speaking coherently.

Your accusations, and more importantly your defense, only makes things worse for you. For it was not I who spoke. You have done it to Him--therefore, if you do not like parable or confused speech, it is also Him who you will answer to for all your grumbling. So, go ahead and respond to Him with your typical Haha laugh, see if you finish with a smile on your face.

Me? As far as you are concerned--I've done my part.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

Your accusations, and more importantly your defense, only makes things worse for you.

LOL. Your words mean NOTHING to me. Absolutely NOTHING. So, you waste your time making meaningless statements like this.

For it was not I who spoke.

Yes, it was.

You have done it to Him--therefore, if you do not like parable or confused speech, it is also Him who you will answer to for all your grumbling.

Empty threats mean nothing to me. A true teacher of the word of God is able to make it clear and understandable to others and you utterly fail to do that.

So, go ahead and respond to Him with your typical Haha laugh, see if you finish with a smile on your face.

I am responding to YOU, not Him. I will continue laughing at your nonsense while refraining from butchering His word the way you do.

Me? As far as you are concerned--I've done my part.

You've done nothing.

 

[ScottA]

LOL. Your words mean NOTHING to me. Absolutely NOTHING. So, you waste your time making meaningless statements like this.


Yes, it was.


Empty threats mean nothing to me. A true teacher of the word of God is able to make it clear and understandable to others and you utterly fail to do that.


I am responding to YOU, not Him. I will continue laughing at your nonsense while refraining from butchering His word the way you do.


You've done nothing.

Then it is confirmed. So be it.