The Islamic Jihadi’s War Against Christianity

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It seems modern day persecution is ignored by Christendom. Why is it that Christians have a high tolerance for the slaughter of their brothers and sisters in Christ? This article
details an event 24 years ago at the site of Christs birthplace. Seems Christian’s are more willing to condemn the slightest offense given to Islam but again, have unlimited tolerance for Islamic Jihadi’s sacrilegiou, blasphemous and contemptuous treatment of us and our holy sites.

There is an implied False Alternative that Christians should oppose wiping out every Muslim on Earth for the crimes of a few = do nothing at all as a practical response. How about something in between?
  1. How about letting everyone in Christiandom know these persecution’s are happening around the world?
  2. How about churches publicly condemn these acts in all available venues?
  3. How about Praying during church service for Christians living in persecution?
Used to be Christians were first subjects of an empire with no rights. Now, Christians not only have rights, they established many Christian many Christian nations. We have a voice but choose to remain silent. Still, modern martyrs are ignored, not supported in any way. Indon’t think Christ would be happy what appears to be apathy and weakness of faith.
 

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You shall learning from Quran and you will understand what the meaning about it.
They thinking you against God.
You think they against Christianity.
Maybe all of you against God.
Maybe one side of you.
Only God's judgment waiting for all of you as the Quran always warning about it.
 

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The Islamic Jihadi’s War Against Christianity

Nothing new….centuries long…

Islam’s full intent has always been, convert the world to Islam or eliminate not conformists.

Initially…historically: infiltrate nations of close proximity, advantages travel, invasion of sheer numbers of practicing Muslims, to entice and convert…Middle East. Northern African Nations…

Modernly…war against middle eastern Nations that reject … while continuing to spread in increased overbearing numbers, to the western hemisphere.

A shout out thanks and taking advantage of Corrupt American Political administrations that have “advocated, promoted, invited, funded, transported, harbored, given freebies: housed, fed, clothed, educated, provided medical care, Money…full well knowing there was ZERO intent to Assimilate, but Rather As Obama out-right ran on the Ticket for political Office… on the mantra of: Change!!!
Considering the dreams of his foreign, militant, Muslim, atheist father…. Whoop, whoop.


Foreign plans for invading the US…began decades ago, (broadly) the Russians, Muslims and Mexicans … had “organizations”… for invasions to the US…
by military force?
No…
By sheer numbers of overwhelming with masses of people? And infiltrating government positions.
Yes.

And the mess Europe and the US is experiencing these days…are the results.
GAG.
 
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It seems modern day persecution is ignored by Christendom. Why is it that Christians have a high tolerance for the slaughter of their brothers and sisters in Christ? This article
details an event 24 years ago at the site of Christs birthplace. Seems Christian’s are more willing to condemn the slightest offense given to Islam but again, have unlimited tolerance for Islamic Jihadi’s sacrilegiou, blasphemous and contemptuous treatment of us and our holy sites.

There is an implied False Alternative that Christians should oppose wiping out every Muslim on Earth for the crimes of a few = do nothing at all as a practical response. How about something in between?
  1. How about letting everyone in Christiandom know these persecution’s are happening around the world?
  2. How about churches publicly condemn these acts in all available venues?
  3. How about Praying during church service for Christians living in persecution?
Used to be Christians were first subjects of an empire with no rights. Now, Christians not only have rights, they established many Christian many Christian nations. We have a voice but choose to remain silent. Still, modern martyrs are ignored, not supported in any way. Indon’t think Christ would be happy what appears to be apathy and weakness of faith.
Why?
Because the Jihad Terrorists aren't right next door killing their friends and family.

They're safe at home.

And this demonic evil only garners their attention if they choose to read about it happening to others.

And here's where Rome screwed the pooch.
Their scribes wrote in their new testament books they authorized that we should love those Jihad terrorists. And,not fight their assault.

When you remember the old testament those Nicene authors and beyond could not impact, you'll see that God said no such thing about his enemies. He killed them.
 
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And here's where Rome screwed the pooch.
Their scribes wrote in their new testament books they authorized that we should love those Jihad terrorists. And,not fight their assault.

When you remember the old testament those Nicene authors and beyond could not impact, you'll see that God said no such thing about his enemies. He killed them.
True but most in Christendom deny God hates, brings evil (to those he judges) and is a warrior. In fact, is the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, right @Reggie Belafonte?
 
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True but most in Christendom deny God hates, brings evil (to those he judges) and is a warrior. In fact, is the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, right @Reggie Belafonte?
Valid point.
Many make God on the image and likeness they prefer. That's Sophistry. Not scripture.
 

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True but most in Christendom deny God hates, brings evil (to those he judges) and is a warrior. In fact, is the Lord of Heaven’s Armies, right @Reggie Belafonte?
The Kingdom of God does not accept things that are not worthy in it ! Is that not a fact !

If we were to believe to accept Godless things, we clearly can not be worthy of the Kingdom of God ! such should be in repentance of such things not boasting at all !

So as if one turned up at the pearly gates so to speek ? and was questioned, Why did you abide in the world and it's Trends. And What about all them who you incorraged into depravity ? why did you not have true regards them ? who are Lost for you said nothing.

So I being born in the 1960's have seen very Evil filthy Trends come upon us in my days !
The Trends are clearly Godless in fact ! I can clearly see that ! I will not support Godless Trends regardless. I do not promote such.

I seen on a TV show last night an abomination Show I think it's called married at first sight ? I recorded it and just f forward a lot of it, but just to keep an eye on what nonsense is peddled on TV.
Well one young bloke I was impressed with walked out of the Show ! Good on him ! for he was being forced to accept all the new age Trend BS, as they all made him out to be the bad guy ! They all totaly looked down on him for not 100% accepting Gay possitions. They declaired themselves 100% right and him 100% wrong, period ! They had total hatred as if he was not worthy of them all ! he got the big lecture of how everyone must be nowadays or else.

Well They are all on the path that leads to Hell !

But from their point of view, of just being an air head ! they all think that being open to all depravity is something to be looked up to.
So in regards his possition I would think he was saying all good them being Gay but he does not embrace such at it all 100% !

Just as I know friends for many a years who are streight, I do not look up to everything about them 100%, but I can still get on with them very well. One may be to greed driven, I do not encorrege such !
One may talk a bit to much on sex ranting that is not to be encoraged ? look I will talk on such a topic freely and openly but their is a limit when someone is being childish immature a fool ! sadly some do not know that they are being foolish ! but when I say stop it's for good reason ! because they are doing injury to themselves, as in being a fool ! but sadly that's when they kick into a mode of being out of control, for they think that they are more advanced on such things, so they get pumped up, into boasting mode. for they are truly not mature !

And that's what, all of the contestants and Hoast of the TV show were looking down on the dude who walked out on the Show ! because they were all depraved ! No wonder he walked out !

So one has to stand up to all depravity and not swim with such Sharks !

God says what it is that he Hates in the Bible and for very very good reason !

But the New age Socialist Mob make pathetic Laws on Laws ? that is intent of slavery. Because Truth is not in them ! such Laws are to dictate over everyone !
Abortion on demand Laws ? just for one. so no one can question such for the new Laws were created to stop all questioning on such a subject ! Yes Hitler and Stalin made up rules so as not to be questioned ! that was the Key to their Power over the People, who became their Slaves in fact !
 

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Very good post! Want to comment on just a few points.

they all think that being open to all depravity is something to be looked up to.

It’s so obvious that’s their angle of attack, pretend no standards is admirable and something to strive for.

The make it seem like having standards is hateful. It is hateful - righteous hatred! We ought to hate the bad and love the good! Virtue and vice are not synonyms.

We don’t want to hire the first candidate (sexual deviant) but the best candidate.

God says what it is that he Hates in the Bible and for very very good reason !

The false Gospel is God is love and only love and nothing to fear - despite Scripture explicitly saying to work out your salvation with fear and trembling!

But the New age Socialist Mob make pathetic Laws on Laws ? that is intent of slavery.
You got that right!
 

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Very good post! Want to comment on just a few points.



It’s so obvious that’s their angle of attack, pretend no standards is admirable and something to strive for.

The make it seem like having standards is hateful. It is hateful - righteous hatred! We ought to hate the bad and love the good! Virtue and vice are not synonyms.

We don’t want to hire the first candidate (sexual deviant) but the best candidate.



The false Gospel is God is love and only love and nothing to fear - despite Scripture explicitly saying to work out your salvation with fear and trembling!


You got that right!
Your correct They have no standards ! what they think is standards, are based on indoctrination, period !

Your correct do not have Standards, the Socialist ego is offended, if one was to be seen better than another, as that is a red flag and illegal in their mind. But in regards myself I like other people if they are better than me and I will give them reconition because I admire such in People and promote such as a good thing for all.
I would not be impressed if no one had standards or Class !
When understanding the criminal elament of dipsticks, I do not want to be around such as the depraved because it's soul destroying.

Canadates should be the best for the job, one who is a Master of such ! not some dipstick droped in because of some Socialist Idolised load of claptrap nonsense. Oh you are the wrong gender ? or Oh it's demanded 50/50 or it offends the same Idolity bag of nonsense that only a moron would swallow.

Your correct one is to work out your Salvation with fear and trembling ! Not in regards to this world that is full of deceptions and delusions in fact. but Socialist have another set of gods that are clearly Idols.
 

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Why?
Because the Jihad Terrorists aren't right next door killing their friends and family.

They're safe at home.

And this demonic evil only garners their attention if they choose to read about it happening to others.

And here's where Rome screwed the pooch.
Their scribes wrote in their new testament books they authorized that we should love those Jihad terrorists. And,not fight their assault.

When you remember the old testament those Nicene authors and beyond could not impact, you'll see that God said no such thing about his enemies. He killed them.
Roman scribes told us to love our enemies? Not Jesus? Is this what you really think?


You shall learning from Quran and you will understand what the meaning about it.
They thinking you against God.
You think they against Christianity.
Maybe all of you against God.
Maybe one side of you.
Only God's judgment waiting for all of you as the Quran always warning about it.
The real soberxp has shown up. I thought so.
 

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Roman scribes told us to love our enemies? Not Jesus? Is this what you really think?
God has to be consistent when he does not change,and is the same yesterday,today,and forever.

The Roman scribes couldn't augment Hebrew Bible scrolls.

If they said Jesus told his faithful to love their enemies, would that comport with OT God and how he felt about his enemies? No.

But many of the new converts were Jews,who believed their Messiah had come. Many others were Gentiles,who knew nothing of the God of the Hebrews.

Rome sought conquest of the whole world.

What better way to make that easier than yo send clergy ahead? So to preach about Jesus,who commands they love their enemies? And do good to those who do you harm. And to give a thief your cloak also after they steal your , (land) , purse.
And for slaves to obey their masters. And all people to obey the emperor.

So then that Roman army later arrives. The enemy. There to steal land and enslave people.

God says love them. Turn the other cheek. Obey.
 
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God has to be consistent when he does not change,and is the same yesterday,today,and forever.

The Roman scribes couldn't augment Hebrew Bible scrolls.

If they said Jesus told his faithful to love their enemies, would that comport with OT God and how he felt about his enemies? No.

But many of the new converts were Jews,who believed their Messiah had come. Many others were Gentiles,who knew nothing of the God of the Hebrews.

Rome sought conquest of the whole world.

What better way to make that easier than yo send clergy ahead? So to preach about Jesus,who commands they love their enemies? And do good to those who do you harm. And to give a thief your cloak also after they steal your , (land) , purse.
And for slaves to obey their masters. And all people to obey the emperor.

So then that Roman army later arrives. The enemy. There to steal land and enslave people.

God says love them. Turn the other cheek. Obey.
God does not change- but his commands for us have. no more eye for an eye-Jesus taught us to love our enemies. I'm sure.
There was a time when Christians were thrown to lions, set on fire, crucified upside down for their faith- they did not resist. They thought it was an honor to be killed for Christ-- a martyr..---- Many were apostles- who heard Jesus teach. No scribes there! Then the EFC's were right behind them in later years.

What happened to our courage and faith?
Muslims want to kill us for our faith and we want to disobey the One who taught us to love our enemies? Blame the scribes?

It's ok with me if Trump feels we need to be at war with them- God sanctions the authorities to bare the sword against evildoers. I am behind whatever is God's will here. I don't know all of the facts- none of us do. the media lies..

But what I'm saying is, if Muslims here in our streets-- wanted to kill us for being followers of Christ- so be it..
That doesn't mean we should try to rile them up, and it doesn't mean we don't try to avoid them- it means that we treat them as we want to be treated even in the face of death.
Keep your eyes on Jesus- He could have called down legions of angels.. instead He forgave them.
Think about who you obey. We are to follow Him.

I have no doubt that it would be much harder than we can imagine not to shoot their arses- but He will help us.
 
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  1. How about letting everyone in Christiandom know these persecution’s are happening around the world?
  2. How about churches publicly condemn these acts in all available venues?
  3. How about Praying during church service for Christians living in persecution
You complain about Christians not being aware or concerned about Islamic persecution.
Well just how informed are you about:-
Whitcliffe bible translators
As well as many sending missionary organisations.

May I suggest not only subscribing a d supporting several of these organisations, but that you become your churches representative making regular reports in church services, leading prayer meetings in your church.
 

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God does not change- but his commands for us have. no more eye for an eye-Jesus taught us to love our enemies. I'm sure.
There was a time when Christians were thrown to lions, set on fire, crucified upside down for their faith- they did not resist. They thought it was an honor to be killed for Christ-- a martyr..---- Many were apostles- who heard Jesus teach. No scribes there! Then the EFC's were right behind them in later years.

What happened to our courage and faith?
Muslims want to kill us for our faith and we want to disobey the One who taught us to love our enemies? Blame the scribes?

It's ok with me if Trump feels we need to be at war with them- God sanctions the authorities to bare the sword against evildoers. I am behind whatever is God's will here. I don't know all of the facts- none of us do. the media lies..

But what I'm saying is, if Muslims here in our streets-- wanted to kill us for being followers of Christ- so be it..
That doesn't mean we should try to rile them up, and it doesn't mean we don't try to avoid them- it means that we treat them as we want to be treated even in the face of death.
Keep your eyes on Jesus- He could have called down legions of angels.. instead He forgave them.
Think about who you obey. We are to follow Him.

I have no doubt that it would be much harder than we can imagine not to shoot their arses- but He will help us.
As I said, God has to be consistent as the one and only sovereign who has dominion over all his creation.

God did not love his enemies. God created those whom he would bless. And those whom were meant for destruction.

God sends those whom he does not allow redemption,to Hell.

Jesus called the Pharisees and Sadducees who illegally tried him a "brood of vipers" and "of their father the Devil".
Is that love of his enemies? Jesus fashioned a whip and went after the money changers who defiled his Father's house.
Is that an example of passivity?

God said someone who doesn't defend their house from Interlopers is worse than an unbeliever.

And lastly,Jesus commanded his Disciples to buy swords. Even if they have to sell their cloaks.

I love God. If I love the man who brutally murdered a girl I went to school with, what does that say about love? If I love the man who raped me when I was 25,what does that say about God? When he will send that unrepentant proud sinning man to Hell?

The first new testament text was written between 40 and 50CE. Later non-Pauline texts were written between 65 and 100 CE.

The Apostles of the living Jesus did not write those books. That is a historic fact.

Jesus tells us we will know the truth that shall set us free. Not to believe every spirit,but test them.

The OT came first. Jesus was God in the OT. He cannot contradict himself and be Omniscient.
He didn't.

Pray attention. God killed his enemies. We're to love them?
Are we to be or have slaves that obey the master?

Are we to obey the Emperor of Rome?
 
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Jesus called the Pharisees and Sadducees who illegally tried him a "brood of vipers" and "of their father the Devil".
Is that love of his enemies? Jesus fashioned a whip and went after the money changers who defiled his Father's house.
Is that an example of passivity?

God said someone who doesn't defend their house from Interlopers is worse than an unbeliever.

Are we to be or have slaves that obey the master?

Are we to obey the Emperor of Rome?
You ask @PS95 great questions. I look forward to your answers.
 
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Roman scribes told us to love our enemies? Not Jesus? Is this what you really think?



The real soberxp has shown up. I thought so.
Ones enemies may become your good friends ?
So the issue here is to do with Grace !

I had people attack me on day one at a new school that I went to, I never said a word to anyone and bingo they were waiting for me at lunch time 30 of such wanting to see me being bash up ! The best fighter had a go at me but I won !
Buy The next year we were good friends still to this day.

Many idiots in that backward Town and they loved nothing better that to fight, so I had such come up to have a go at me all the time ! but I was always nice to them.

I went to Judo as soon as I was of age, so that was of great help to me when I turned up at that school. but the Judo teaching was never to try and hurt anyone but only to defend yourself period !

I learnt more from Judo and Ju Jitsu than I ever learnt from that State School. for they breed gutless ego driven dolts !

I come across People when I go back to that Town and I get people come and say, that they looked up to me very much so.
Some just run away. you know why they run away, because they have never growen up and know they are bad eggs.

Like all criminal types they will not change their spots ! because they know no better in fact. That type of red bellyblack snake only lives off others because they are a curse ! so in that case treat them some what as they do you, because they will only want take advantage off you.
Islam creats the same type of jerks ! As with all with no Grace are a Curse. for they only want to lord it over and only abuses of others like a rat ! they will eat you alive.
 

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As I said, God has to be consistent as the one and only sovereign who has dominion over all his creation.

God did not love his enemies. God created those whom he would bless. And those whom were meant for destruction.

God sends those whom he does not allow redemption,to Hell.

Jesus called the Pharisees and Sadducees who illegally tried him a "brood of vipers" and "of their father the Devil".
Is that love of his enemies? Jesus fashioned a whip and went after the money changers who defiled his Father's house.
Is that an example of passivity?

God said someone who doesn't defend their house from Interlopers is worse than an unbeliever.

And lastly,Jesus commanded his Disciples to buy swords. Even if they have to sell their cloaks.

I love God. If I love the man who brutally murdered a girl I went to school with, what does that say about love? If I love the man who raped me when I was 25,what does that say about God? When he will send that unrepentant proud sinning man to Hell?

The first new testament text was written between 40 and 50CE. Later non-Pauline texts were written between 65 and 100 CE.

The Apostles of the living Jesus did not write those books. That is a historic fact.

Jesus tells us we will know the truth that shall set us free. Not to believe every spirit,but test them.

The OT came first. Jesus was God in the OT. He cannot contradict himself and be Omniscient.
He didn't.

Pray attention. God killed his enemies. We're to love them?
Are we to be or have slaves that obey the master?

Are we to obey the Emperor of Rome?
SO Rome (RCC?) changed the scriptures-- ?
So you are saying that Jesus never taught us to love our enemies or to bless those who curse us or to do unto others as we would want done to us. No golden rule- no sermon on the mount etc... ..?
It's all made up?
Luke 6 Matthew 5 Romans 12:14 1 Peter 3:9 ETC..
So again I ask you- WHY did the apostles and so many early church fathers allow themselves to be thrown to lions, crucified upside down, stabbed, beheaded and burned? Did Rome change the scriptures on the apostles??? You make no sense.

This is ridiculous.
You say you are a Christian but the NT is all made up? What did you do go and get sucked in by Erhman? try reading Wallace's book- He shows you what to make of Erhman-
Revisiting the Corruption of the New Testament : Manuscript, Patristic, and Apocryphal Evidence by Daniel B. Wallace
 
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SO Rome (RCC?) changed the scriptures-- ?
So you are saying that Jesus never taught us to love our enemies or to bless those who curse us or to do unto others as we would want done to us. No golden rule- no sermon on the mount etc... ..?
It's all made up?
Luke 6 Matthew 5 Romans 12:14 1 Peter 3:9 ETC..
So again I ask you- WHY did the apostles and so many early church fathers allow themselves to be thrown to lions, crucified upside down, stabbed, beheaded and burned? Did Rome change the scriptures on the apostles??? You make no sense.

This is ridiculous.
You say you are a Christian but the NT is all made up? What did you do go and get sucked in by Erhman? try reading Wallace's book- He shows you what to make of Erhman-
Revisiting the Corruption of the New Testament : Manuscript, Patristic, and Apocryphal Evidence by Daniel B. Wallace
Well @Wrangler, you have your answer.

He's talking to himself.