Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?

[Christian Soldier]

From genesis to revelation there has indeed been emphasized a single and consistent plan of redemption .
GOD was gonna be the ONE to SAVE MAN . and without the shedding of BLOOD is NO REMISSION of sins .
Its just for a time it was the blood of an imals , UNTIL the PROMISED ONE would come
whose sacrfice would be THE SACRFICE of a far better SACRIFICE than of any blood of any animal .
And it was not just the blood of a man who gave up his life . OH NO
JESUS was not just man at all . HE had only come IN THE FORM OF MAN
but was BEFORE man was and was b efore ANYTHING created was . In fact
IT IS BY HIM GOD CREATED ALL THAT WAS AND ALL THAT IS .
HE IS THE WORD OF GOD
and the word was G OD . that aint just the blood of a good man shed on that cross
For man cannot save , BUT GOD CAN . AND GOD DID .
and its about HIGH time we preach JESUS AGAIN to all that has breath . with a dire and ab solute reminder
of the dire and absolute necessity to BELIEVE ON HIM or prepare to perish .
FOR IF ONE DENYS GOD , ITS LIGHTS out on judgment day
AND IF ONE DENIES JESUS , boy oh boy , THEY DO DENY GOD . and that too is a fact .

First of all, it seems you don't believe in the God who revealed Himself in the Bible. I say this because the Lord Jesus is the Almighty Jehovah God, the Creator of everything that exists. So don't reduce Him down to being merely "the Word of God", no He is God period.

He did come into the world He created as an ordinary man, but without sin. So He is fully man and fully God at the same time, He has two distinct natures. He has a divine nature and a human nature all in one and at the same time.

I was glad to read the first part of your post and I agree with you regarding the single consistent plan of redemption. Everyone in the old testament was saved by the Lord Jesus Christ, He shed His blood for them and for us. nobody was ever saved by sacrificing animals, that ordinance served as a reminder of the coming Messiah, who would sacrifice Himself once and for all and put an end to the Temple and Judaism forever.

Your right, it is absolutely necessary to believe on Him or prepare to perish, the only problem is that it is impossible to believe on Him, unless God gives you the gift of His grace, and the gift of faith and the gift of repentance and then the daily gifts of endurance and sanctification for the rest of your life. So it's not up to me and you who plant and water, but it's up to God who gives the increase.

 

[Marvelloustime]

What folks seem to have quickly forgotten , or perhaps never knew ,
due to the serious lack of reading the bible or the twisting of what little scrips they do know .
While the land was promised to them . HOW come at least t hree times
THEY got booted out .
AND , and this is a huge and
NOW IN JESUS CHRIST the earthen is not the temple nor etc to be sought
NOR will it remain . THE HEAVENLY WILL REMAIN .
AND GUESS who we gots to believe in , TO BE IN THAT KINGDOM . IF ya SAID JESUS , YOU SPOT ON RIGHT .
people think just cause a jew was born a jew that automatically made GOD pleased with them .
BUT This has never been the case . OH GOD lo ved . no doubt about it .
BUT HE has only been ever pleased
With those whose faith was as was THE FAITH OF ABRAHAM . ABRAHAM I KNOW BELEIVED GOD
and thus of course he obeyed HIM .
And now for the biggest reminder to this generation .
IF ONE BELEIVES NOT IN JESUS THE CHRIST , THE MESSIAH
THEN THEY DO NOT BELEIVE THE TESTIMONY OF GOD , THEY DO NOT BELIEVE GOD .
and this did not DO ABRAHAM .
IN other words , NO JESUS AND ITS ALL VAIN . the jew can wail as loud as can gentile
and this will be SEEN ON JESUS DAY . But unto all , whether jew or gentile
WHOSE FAITH WAS AND IS IN HIM , PARADISE awaits . SEE how simple I KEPT IT .

@amigo de christo

 

[Marvelloustime]

From genesis to revelation there has indeed been emphasized a single and consistent plan of redemption .
GOD was gonna be the ONE to SAVE MAN . and without the shedding of BLOOD is NO REMISSION of sins .
Its just for a time it was the blood of an imals , UNTIL the PROMISED ONE would come
whose sacrfice would be THE SACRFICE of a far better SACRIFICE than of any blood of any animal .
And it was not just the blood of a man who gave up his life . OH NO
JESUS was not just man at all . HE had only come IN THE FORM OF MAN
but was BEFORE man was and was b efore ANYTHING created was . In fact
IT IS BY HIM GOD CREATED ALL THAT WAS AND ALL THAT IS .
HE IS THE WORD OF GOD
and the word was G OD . that aint just the blood of a good man shed on that cross
For man cannot save , BUT GOD CAN . AND GOD DID .
and its about HIGH time we preach JESUS AGAIN to all that has breath . with a dire and ab solute reminder
of the dire and absolute necessity to BELIEVE ON HIM or prepare to perish .
FOR IF ONE DENYS GOD , ITS LIGHTS out on judgment day
AND IF ONE DENIES JESUS , boy oh boy , THEY DO DENY GOD . and that too is a fact .

@amigo de christo

 

[Christian Soldier]

What your rebuttal consists of is a number of your opinions, which may have some substance and logic, however this is the first time that I have read of this particular understanding.

The ages I was presenting was the Seven Ages of the overarching age from the creation of Adam up to the time of the final judgement of mankind.

Perhaps if you provided the scriptures to your POV then we may all be able to come to some level of acceptance about what you have posted above.

I appreciate your integrity in not resorting to futile debates over opposing Denominational views. You surprised me by doing the unexpected right thing, that being your asking me which scriptures support my view.
Sadly you are in the minority, most hard core denominationalists aren't interested in what the Bible has to say about a given matter, they're more interested in defending their denomination, all the way to the gates of hell.

Here are just a few verses which speak of only two, these were spoken during our age, you know the same one that goes from Genesis to Revelation. Anyway, we find they only ever refer to this present age and the age to come. They never ever and neither does the Bible ever speak about more than these two ages.

In any case this is not a salvific issue, you may believe in the seven ages and I only believe in two, but we both can still be saved . By saved (I'm referring to the present tense), I don't believe God saves a man, and then turns around in a fit of rage and throws him into the lake of fire. that's not the God, who revealed Himself in the Bible.

Back to our wrestling match, here are the verses I hope to use as weapons to inflict the knockout blow.

Matt 12:32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Mark 10:30 who shall not receive a hundredfold now in this time—houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and lands, with persecutions—and in the age to come, eternal life.

Ephesians 1:21 far above all principality and power and might and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in that which is to come.

Hebrews 6:5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come,

Galatians 1:4 Christ delivered us from "this present evil age".

 

[Christian Soldier]

Socialist are the problem regardless who they are in fact !

The Socialist Jews in the State of Israel are who let them Terrorist in to kill Jews in fact ! and all that they have done is support only evil from that day on, is to Support the Terrorist in fact !

Not to mention the only real problem in the USA is the Socialist ! Who are promoting everything that is sick and stupid, not to mention creating nothing but trouble.

The biggest Issue in Europe is the Socialist Leaders, for clearly they are against their own Nations real People !

Hitler was a Socialist ! that is a fact ! and the fact is that all Socialist intent is to Dominate over the People, They peddle nothing but Lies and deceptions and delusions.

I am a Racist and I am proud of it ! but I am not Racial Prejudice ! Get that for I can understand who and what other Race are different to others and I respect that ! and their Culture differes.

But Communism has a one size fits all Nations only ? That all people are the same and equal ? and they Idolise the lowest common dernominator as Lords over all !

Jesus came and offered people to get out of such a septic tank, of the lowest common denominator, being the Standard set in gold !

No one can be a Socialist and be a Saved Christian, because a Socialism in fact serves and has many Idols !

Socialism leads to Communism. both in fact are truly a Cancer ! brainwashing is their calling card, so as to dupe all to outright deceptions and delusions.

So one comes along such Dupes that have been indoctreinated but clearly not educated nowadays and some trewp says, Racist ! and all of the Dupes think OMG OMG !
Now what is the responce of such morons ? Anger !!! someone has just broken one of their Idolitry gods ! yet they have no idea what a Racist truly means in fact ! for they have been bombbarded with deceptions !

If one was racial prejudice ! what would I do ? I would not freek out and go into Kill mode like a Socialist moronic dupe, I may be open to the subject and ask, how well he knows what he may be talking about but I will not make threats of dictateing to such a one.
One has a right to ones own opinion ! that was what the world I grew up in was and I did not have to believe anything anyone said at all in fact.

Lets say that One may come out with some point of prejudice in regards the Jews ? I may ask what Jews he is on about etc ? but I do not try to dictate BS to anyone ! If he is wrong on the subject so be it ! but I may be able to talk, so as to make one who may listen understand some things, but I will not dictate to them !
Maybe the seed sowen, will take root far better that way than dictating to others. because that is the Christian way !

Dictating over people is a Cancer !

All subject are not only a open and shut case like Socialist and Communist Dictatorships Demand, for such as they have no Grace !

I don't believe that Socialists, or jews or Muslims, or Catholics, or Orthodox, or Mormons, or Chinese, or Russians, or North Koreans, or Arabs, or Africans or anybody else you care to mention is the problem. No Mankind is the problem, he is the cancer on the earth.

Every single person, since Adam has been born with a sin nature. We all take to evil like duck to water, every thought and every deed, and every intention is evil continuously. I don't know you but I'm including you on this mix as well because you are a human.

The late Prince Philip made a comment at a gathering of big wigs, he said "when I die, I'd like to come back as a virus to reduce the worlds population down to a small number which can be easily managed". King Charles also believes that mankind is a cancer on the planet, it's a shame these men don't lead by example and euthanise themselves if they are so passionate about saving the planet.

I've been down the rabbit hole and met people like Alex Jones and Max Igan, I've heard about all of the things going on in the so called deep sate. But after much research I found out that nobody is going to take over the world and enslave us. The Man of sin, or "the Antichrist" won't be able to do anything to Gods people, without Gods permission, because Satan is a dog on Gods chain.

I know that the world is sinking ever deeper into depravity, this is exactly what was prophesised, so it doesn't take Gods people by surprise. Things are going to get a lot worse before the Lord returns, when He comes He will find the world in the same depraved state as Sodom and Gamora was before He destroyed them. We're not there yet, they were having mass sexual orgies with men, women and children and murder was rampant.

No group will ever dominate the world, because God made sure of it when He confused those who were building the tower of babel, by confusing their language. I believe this describes rulers being on different pages and not united. No group is united enough today to be a candidate for world domination.
The Antichrist will come on the scene and rule by deception, but it will be for a very short time then He will be cast into hell.

The Fascist Right Wing and the Communist Left Wing are attached to the same Bird. They cause trouble, because the majority allow themselves to be deceived by them. If the majority believed in God, this Bird would be powerless.

 

[RepentingChristian]

Deceived Jews in today's nation of Israel, and outside it, are pushing the lie that the restoration of Israel is already happening today. It is not.

Israel is quite affluent, successful, and very strong. It seems to me that Israel has indeed been fully restored, as God said he would do.

 

[RepentingChristian]

The Fascist Right Wing...

Fascism is and has always been a leftist ideology.

 

[RepentingChristian]

Satan is a dog on Gods chain.

Do you believe that Satan is doing what God created him to do?

 

[Davy]

Israel is quite affluent, successful, and very strong. It seems to me that Israel has indeed been fully restored, as God said he would do.

If you go deeper into God's Word, you will find out different. Just the prophecy God gave in Ezekiel 37 about the joining of the two sticks together when Jesus comes to gather His elect to Jerusalem ought to be enough proof for you.

But if you really... go deeper in God's written Word about His Birthright Promises and Blessings given first through Abraham, and how that Birthright continued through Isaac, then through Jacob, then Joseph, and finally landed upon Joseph's two sons Ephraim and Manasseh, then you might understand how God moved most of those Birthright Promises to His symbolic vineyard of Israel out of the holy land, and instead to another "nation" that would bring forth fruit in Christ.

This is why today the Jews in the nation of Israel no longer have a king of the house of David upon a throne, a Birthright Promise to Judah and David's seed that is supposed to be in all... generations.

This is also why today the Jews in the nation of Israel no longer control the gates of God's enemies, which the western Christian nations do instead, and that involves those nations also which have the greatest militaries on earth, another one of God's Birthright Promises originally to Israel.

Lord Jesus speaking...

Matt 21:33-43
33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:

34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.

35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.

36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.

37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, "They will reverence my son."

38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, "This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance."

39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.

40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?

41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

42 Jesus saith unto them, "Did ye never read in the scriptures, 'The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?'

43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof."
KJV

That symbolic "nation" in verse 43 is about the ten tribe "house of Israel", God's symbolic vineyard of Isaiah 5:7 which He scattered to the West, and they became the Western Christian nations of history, and have exhibited all His Birthright Promises originally given from Abraham down through to Ephraim. That... is where The Gospel of Jesus was accepted on national scales, and The Gospel was always part of God's Birthright first given through Abraham. This is even why Apostle Paul in Galatians 3 says those of Faith (on Jesus Christ) have become the "'children of Abraham", and inherit with faithful Abraham.

At the same time, God promised He would always leave "one tribe" at Jerusalem for David's sake and for Jerusalem's sake, and that He would not leave the kingdom of Israel split forever (See 1 Kings 11). Thus the unbelieving Jews still represent our brother, if you know you have a heritage from the ten scattered tribes of Israel. And it is our duty to help them still, even though they are temporarily deceived away from The Gospel.

But claiming today's Jews and the nation of Israel has been restored already, that's a myth pushed by those false Jews of the "synagogue of Satan" who have had spiritual control over Jerusalem since before Lord Jesus' 1st coming. The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses' seat, Lord Jesus said. He was pointing to false Jews not of the seed of Israel by that. They had gotten control since right after Judah's return from their Babylon captivity.

So looks like you've got a whole... lot of Bible study to do if you don't understand this.

 

[Davy]

I don't believe that Socialists, or jews or Muslims, or Catholics, or Orthodox, or Mormons, or Chinese, or Russians, or North Koreans, or Arabs, or Africans or anybody else you care to mention is the problem. No Mankind is the problem, he is the cancer on the earth.

Every single person, since Adam has been born with a sin nature. We all take to evil like duck to water, every thought and every deed, and every intention is evil continuously. I don't know you but I'm including you on this mix as well because you are a human.

The late Prince Philip made a comment at a gathering of big wigs, he said "when I die, I'd like to come back as a virus to reduce the worlds population down to a small number which can be easily managed". King Charles also believes that mankind is a cancer on the planet, it's a shame these men don't lead by example and euthanise themselves if they are so passionate about saving the planet.

I've been down the rabbit hole and met people like Alex Jones and Max Igan, I've heard about all of the things going on in the so called deep sate. But after much research I found out that nobody is going to take over the world and enslave us. The Man of sin, or "the Antichrist" won't be able to do anything to Gods people, without Gods permission, because Satan is a dog on Gods chain.

I know that the world is sinking ever deeper into depravity, this is exactly what was prophesised, so it doesn't take Gods people by surprise. Things are going to get a lot worse before the Lord returns, when He comes He will find the world in the same depraved state as Sodom and Gamora was before He destroyed them. We're not there yet, they were having mass sexual orgies with men, women and children and murder was rampant.

No group will ever dominate the world, because God made sure of it when He confused those who were building the tower of babel, by confusing their language. I believe this describes rulers being on different pages and not united. No group is united enough today to be a candidate for world domination.
The Antichrist will come on the scene and rule by deception, but it will be for a very short time then He will be cast into hell.

The Fascist Right Wing and the Communist Left Wing are attached to the same Bird. They cause trouble, because the majority allow themselves to be deceived by them. If the majority believed in God, this Bird would be powerless.

Some things you say I agree with, others are extremist views.

This present world we are in does involve a battle with forces beyond mankind's sin nature inherited from Adam. I get tired of hearing brethren speak in the sense that at the time of Adam in God's Garden is when the worlds first began. No, there was a previous world time prior to Adam when Lucifer first rebelled against God in coveting God's Throne, and thus fell from Heaven, even drawing one third of the angels ("stars") with him. That did not happen in Adam's day, nor at any time after Adam's days. It happen in the previous world that then was which perished by waters of a flood; not Noah's flood either, but a flood that God caused long before Adam.

And it is that rebellion by Lucifer in that previous world that then was, which is the cause for this present world we are in today. In God's parable of Ezekiel 28 about Lucifer and that rebellion of old, God said He originally created Lucifer perfect in his ways. Thus Lucifer rebelled using his own free will. God did not create him evil. This also means that even though God uses... the devil during this present world, He still allows the devil to work using his free will. The difference with us in Christ is that He gave us power over all the enemy per Luke 10, and we are able to cast demons away to the pit in the Name of Jesus Christ. And that means away from our person, away from our family, our home, etc. That further proves that our battle is NOT simply with man, but literally with the devil and his host.

And the globalists do... have a plan to reduce the world's population. Environmentalists want to bring back a condition on the earth like primitive man. The monument Georgia Gudiestones even proposed the world population will be down to 500,000,000. Some good ol' boys in Georgia blew half of that Georgia Guidestone monument down.

The Guidestones contain a ten-part message from globalist-secret fraternity initiates...

The inscription read:

• Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
• Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
• Unite humanity with a living new language.
• Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
• Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
• Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
• Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
• Balance personal rights with social duties.
• Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
• Be not a cancer on the Earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

What do the Georgia Guidestones say?

THE Georgia Guidestones were destroyed in a mysterious blast on July 6, 2022. The renowned monument was controversial due to its peculiar origin story and interesting inscription. But what did it s…

www.the-sun.com

 

[RepentingChristian]

But claiming today's Jews and the nation of Israel has been restored already, that's a myth pushed by those false Jews of the "synagogue of Satan"

So when is this going to happen?

Amos 9:14-15
"I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. 15 I will plant them on their land, AND THEY SHALL NEVER AGAIN BE UPROOTED out of the land that I have given them,” says the Lord your God.

 

[Davy]

So when is this going to happen?

Amos 9:14-15
"I will restore the fortunes of my people Israel, and they shall rebuild the ruined cities and inhabit them; they shall plant vineyards and drink their wine, and they shall make gardens and eat their fruit. 15 I will plant them on their land, AND THEY SHALL NEVER AGAIN BE UPROOTED out of the land that I have given them,” says the Lord your God.

That will officially happen when Lord Jesus returns on the last day of this world. That is when the two sticks of Ezekiel 37 will be joined back together, and Israel shall no longer be "two nations" like it says.

The problem is how many brethren are completely Biblically illiterate that God split old Israel into two separate kingdoms and peoples, and with one He allowed them to keep their heritage and identity as part of Israel. But the other kingdom and peoples when He scattered them, allowed them to maintain their Baal worship they forgot Him for, and thus they LOST their heritage and identity as the larger portion of Israel (I refer to the ten LOST tribes of Israel).

1. "house of Judah", or "kingdom of Judah" = only the tribes of Judah and Benjamin at the time God split Israel into two separate kingdoms per 1 Kings 11. Solomon's son Rehoboam, of the house of David, became king over all 12 tribes just before the split. Then after God did the split Rehoboam became "king of Judah" just over the 3 tribes. The majority of the tribe of Levi would later join them also once they were prevented from doing their priestly duties in the north among the ten tribes. The Levites in the north, along with a small remnant out of the ten tribes would then travel south and join with the "house of Judah" at Jerusalem-Judea.

2. "house of Israel", or "kingdom of Israel" = only the northern ten tribes. Per 1 Kings 11, God gave ten tribes to Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim to rule over as "king of Israel". If you know about God's requirement for who in Israel would be kings, the king was supposed to come only from the tribe of Judah, and later of the house of David who was of the tribe of Judah. Yet Jeroboam which God made "king of Israel" over the ten northern tribes was of the tribe of Ephraim.

The way Ephraim applies in that is per Genesis 35 and Genesis 48 when God gave Jacob the prophecy that his seed would become "a nation, and a company of nations." In Gen.48, Jacob gave God's Birthright upon the head of Joseph's son Ephraim, instead of the elder Manasseh. And Jacob said the seed of Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations", repeating the prophecy God had originally given Jacob. Thing is, Israel in the middle east has only ever been but ONE nation, not a multitude of nations. That means that prophecy had to be fulfilled somewhere else. And it was, when God scattered the ten lost tribes of Israel, the part of Israel that made up the majority of Israelites, and led them westward from their Assyrian captivity into Asia Minor and Europe. And that is where they became the founders of the western Christian nations, the "multitude of nations" prophecy fulfilled in The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The problem with the majority of brethren in Christ not knowing about the above is with the propaganda that the false Jews plant within the Churches. The "synagogue of Satan" wants to deceive us, and make us think that the Jews only represent His chosen Israel of Jews, which in majority are still unbelievers today, and that we should look to them for the coming of The Savior, when in reality those unbelieving Jews still REJECT Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ, The Savior. The "synagogue of Satan" which Lord Jesus pointed to in Rev.2 and Rev.3 is a hidden group among the Jews. They represent the "tares" in Christ's Matthew 13 parable of the tares of the field. And they are in control of today's nation of Israel, which our Heavenly Father is temporarily allowing per Bible prophecy of the Signs of the end that Jesus gave for the end of this world. The purpose is to allow Satan to come and play God again coveting God's Throne in Jerusalem, like he did in the old world, so it will do some pruning of those who received not the love of the Truth.


Much of what God said He would do with the ten northern tribes of the "house of Israel" after their scattering is written through God's prophet Hosea.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Who blindly supports the State of Israel in this war ? No one who supports Israel's right to defend it's self against all of the acts and intentions is blind about all such at all ! but clearly understands the reality is that, all who stand against Israles PM are clearly Evil and muckrakers 24/7 peddling nothing but nonsense !

The State of Israel was attacked fool ! and what a outright totaly gutless whay that they went about it all, from start to finish in fact !
Total morons who should never be regarded as humans but as out right mongrel Dogs !
They clearly tryed to creat a Holocaust of the Jews, once again in fact ! That was their whole intention ! can you reject that ? no one can in fact because it's a clear Fact !

Not to mention it's clearly the Socialist who support all such actions against the State of Israel in fact ! using their totaly depraved propaganda machine 24/7.
But guess what I am so suprised when I have walked about talking to anyone, as most do not swallow the MS Media dribble at all !

Oh yes the Socialist all do swallow the MS Media propagander 100% ! and start dictating nonsense about X Y or Z is Illegal !

It's ILLEGAL ! They demand !

Good grief Reggie.....are you so blinded by the politics that you fail to see the big picture?

Nothing happens in this world without God’s permission.....who are the fleshly Jews to God today?
They are just part of the blood spilling nations because God cast them off when they rejected his Christ.
Jesus’ words in Matt 23:37-39 sealed their fate....

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God’s messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn’t let me. And now, look, your house is abandoned and desolate. For I tell you this, you will never see me again until you say, ‘Blessings on the one who comes in the name of the LORD !’” (NLT)
Jesus quoted Psalm 118:26 where the Tetragrammaton (יְהֹוָ֑ה) is there in the Hebrew Text.

When Israel was obedient to their God, he gave them the victory over their enemies....they needed no support from the nations ‘outside’....but when he abandoned them due to their disobedience in securing pagan nations for support, he allowed their enemies to conquer them.

What are we seeing in the Middle East? We are seeing the Jews reaping what they themselves have sown....
If God was for them....who could be against them? Their allies are those whose worship they despise, but they will feign friendship to secure their weaponry and military backup.

Jesus‘ words quoted above, were a warning to those of fleshly Israel....they have to bless the one who comes in the name of the LORD.....his LORD....his God...Yahweh/Jehovah....יְהֹוָ֑ה (John 17:20-26)

What do the words of the Lord’s Prayer highlight as to the importance of God’s name? It was first on the list.
Who were the ones who decided that God’s name was ‘too sacred to utter’?...and removed it from their speech? They preserved it in their sacred texts, as we can see the Tetragrammaton clearly in the Hebrew writings. How did God’s divine name become lost to the world, when he had clearly stated that he was to be known by this name throughout all their generations? (Exodus 3:13-15)

Christendom, in her translating of those Scriptures failed to include it, and instead adopted the Jewish tradition of substituting God’s name with a title “LORD” (Adonai)....one that was common in the day to refer to anyone in authority.....which devalues it as a “name” for the one and only, Almighty God. (Deut 6:4)

Seeing the big picture....God is not involved in any political wars of any nation in a world he has handed over to the devil to prove what a loser he is as man’s preferred ruler. (Luke 4:5-7) What political government has ever delivered what God would have delivered to the entire human race, if only Adam and his wife had obeyed him instead of the serpent?

Do you see what God’s Kingdom is? It is the means by which God will re-establish his rulership over the redeemed ones of mankind, who want peace and security of the permanent kind, that only God’s rulership can deliver.

Those fighting the useless wars of the nations, and those who support the bloodshed, will go down with the world that they are a part of. (John 18:36, Isa 1:15)

True Christians are those who are not participants, but neutral, uninvolved, innocent bystanders. God is in control of everything....or don’t you believe he is capable of taking care of his own business?

 

[Aunty Jane]

First of all, it seems you don't believe in the God who revealed Himself in the Bible. I say this because the Lord Jesus is the Almighty Jehovah God, the Creator of everything that exists. So don't reduce Him down to being merely "the Word of God", no He is God period.

And if he is not, but is a creation of the Catholic Church, then you are breaking the first Commandment....putting another “god” in place of the Father, who was and still is, the God and Father of Jesus Christ. (John 20:17; Rev 3:12)

He did come into the world He created as an ordinary man, but without sin. So He is fully man and fully God at the same time, He has two distinct natures. He has a divine nature and a human nature all in one and at the same time.

No Scripture says so. He is not 200% of anything....he is either 100% God or 100% human. What did he have to be, to become our redeemer? Not God, but 100% sinless human. That is what redemption means...to pay the exact price to free someone of a debt they couldn’t pay.
God never had to become human to provide a human equivalent of Adam. Jesus was “the last Adam” who paid for what the first Adam did to all humankind.

I was glad to read the first part of your post and I agree with you regarding the single consistent plan of redemption. Everyone in the old testament was saved by the Lord Jesus Christ, He shed His blood for them and for us. nobody was ever saved by sacrificing animals, that ordinance served as a reminder of the coming Messiah, who would sacrifice Himself once and for all and put an end to the Temple and Judaism forever.

Everyone who has ever lived, who has not committed “the unforgivable sin” is redeemed by the blood of Christ. The only exceptions will be the “goats” who upon inspection by the appointed judge, will not pass muster at this time, but will go into the place reserved for the devil and his minions. (Matt 25: 41)

Your right, it is absolutely necessary to believe on Him or prepare to perish, the only problem is that it is impossible to believe on Him, unless God gives you the gift of His grace, and the gift of faith and the gift of repentance and then the daily gifts of endurance and sanctification for the rest of your life. So it's not up to me and you who plant and water, but it's up to God who gives the increase.

This is certainly true, but what is the proof that God has granted us either rulership or citizenship in his Kingdom? How do people know, when a clever deceiver is in the world ready to fool those who already think that they are saved?

Who is Jesus talking to in Matt 7:21-23? Do these ones know that they have been serving the wrong god? Even performing miracles in Jesus’ name? Isn’t this the saddest deception of all?.....and according to Jesus, these will be the “few” who have woken up to the deception, (Matt 7:13-14) not the “many” who have swallowed the same ‘cool-ade’.....the same doctrinal garbage that he has served up to ignorant “church” attenders for centuries.

Will the true “Christians” please raise their hands....

 

[RepentingChristian]

That will officially happen when Lord Jesus returns on the last day of this world. That is when the two sticks of Ezekiel 37 will be joined back together, and Israel shall no longer be "two nations" like it says.

The problem is how many brethren are completely Biblically illiterate that God split old Israel into two separate kingdoms and peoples, and with one He allowed them to keep their heritage and identity as part of Israel. But the other kingdom and peoples when He scattered them, allowed them to maintain their Baal worship they forgot Him for, and thus they LOST their heritage and identity as the larger portion of Israel (I refer to the ten LOST tribes of Israel).

1. "house of Judah", or "kingdom of Judah" = only the tribes of Judah and Benjamin at the time God split Israel into two separate kingdoms per 1 Kings 11. Solomon's son Rehoboam, of the house of David, became king over all 12 tribes just before the split. Then after God did the split Rehoboam became "king of Judah" just over the 3 tribes. The majority of the tribe of Levi would later join them also once they were prevented from doing their priestly duties in the north among the ten tribes. The Levites in the north, along with a small remnant out of the ten tribes would then travel south and join with the "house of Judah" at Jerusalem-Judea.

2. "house of Israel", or "kingdom of Israel" = only the northern ten tribes. Per 1 Kings 11, God gave ten tribes to Jeroboam of the tribe of Ephraim to rule over as "king of Israel". If you know about God's requirement for who in Israel would be kings, the king was supposed to come only from the tribe of Judah, and later of the house of David who was of the tribe of Judah. Yet Jeroboam which God made "king of Israel" over the ten northern tribes was of the tribe of Ephraim.

The way Ephraim applies in that is per Genesis 35 and Genesis 48 when God gave Jacob the prophecy that his seed would become "a nation, and a company of nations." In Gen.48, Jacob gave God's Birthright upon the head of Joseph's son Ephraim, instead of the elder Manasseh. And Jacob said the seed of Ephraim would become "a multitude of nations", repeating the prophecy God had originally given Jacob. Thing is, Israel in the middle east has only ever been but ONE nation, not a multitude of nations. That means that prophecy had to be fulfilled somewhere else. And it was, when God scattered the ten lost tribes of Israel, the part of Israel that made up the majority of Israelites, and led them westward from their Assyrian captivity into Asia Minor and Europe. And that is where they became the founders of the western Christian nations, the "multitude of nations" prophecy fulfilled in The Gospel of Jesus Christ.

The problem with the majority of brethren in Christ not knowing about the above is with the propaganda that the false Jews plant within the Churches. The "synagogue of Satan" wants to deceive us, and make us think that the Jews only represent His chosen Israel of Jews, which in majority are still unbelievers today, and that we should look to them for the coming of The Savior, when in reality those unbelieving Jews still REJECT Jesus of Nazareth as The Christ, The Savior. The "synagogue of Satan" which Lord Jesus pointed to in Rev.2 and Rev.3 is a hidden group among the Jews. They represent the "tares" in Christ's Matthew 13 parable of the tares of the field. And they are in control of today's nation of Israel, which our Heavenly Father is temporarily allowing per Bible prophecy of the Signs of the end that Jesus gave for the end of this world. The purpose is to allow Satan to come and play God again coveting God's Throne in Jerusalem, like he did in the old world, so it will do some pruning of those who received not the love of the Truth.


Much of what God said He would do with the ten northern tribes of the "house of Israel" after their scattering is written through God's prophet Hosea.

So Israel is going to be destroyed and "uprooted" in the future and then recreated?

 

[Button]

I don't believe that Socialists, or jews or Muslims, or Catholics, or Orthodox, or Mormons, or Chinese, or Russians, or North Koreans, or Arabs, or Africans or anybody else you care to mention is the problem. No Mankind is the problem, he is the cancer on the earth.

Every single person, since Adam has been born with a sin nature. We all take to evil like duck to water, every thought and every deed, and every intention is evil continuously. I don't know you but I'm including you on this mix as well because you are a human.

The late Prince Philip made a comment at a gathering of big wigs, he said "when I die, I'd like to come back as a virus to reduce the worlds population down to a small number which can be easily managed". King Charles also believes that mankind is a cancer on the planet, it's a shame these men don't lead by example and euthanise themselves if they are so passionate about saving the planet.

I've been down the rabbit hole and met people like Alex Jones and Max Igan, I've heard about all of the things going on in the so called deep sate. But after much research I found out that nobody is going to take over the world and enslave us. The Man of sin, or "the Antichrist" won't be able to do anything to Gods people, without Gods permission, because Satan is a dog on Gods chain.

I know that the world is sinking ever deeper into depravity, this is exactly what was prophesised, so it doesn't take Gods people by surprise. Things are going to get a lot worse before the Lord returns, when He comes He will find the world in the same depraved state as Sodom and Gamora was before He destroyed them. We're not there yet, they were having mass sexual orgies with men, women and children and murder was rampant.

No group will ever dominate the world, because God made sure of it when He confused those who were building the tower of babel, by confusing their language. I believe this describes rulers being on different pages and not united. No group is united enough today to be a candidate for world domination.
The Antichrist will come on the scene and rule by deception, but it will be for a very short time then He will be cast into hell.

The Fascist Right Wing and the Communist Left Wing are attached to the same Bird. They cause trouble, because the majority allow themselves to be deceived by them. If the majority believed in God, this Bird would be powerless.

This conflicts with the faith.
"Every single person, since Adam has been born with a sin nature. We all take to evil like duck to water, every thought and every deed, and every intention is evil continuously. I don't know you but I'm including you on this mix as well because you are a human."

What you ignore is that the one to whom you address is a born again Christian.
So,no,you cannot include them in those remarks.

According to your pov, God is no better than the Devil.The Devil being his dog on a chain? His attack dog.

Your ideology makes my skin crawl.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Fascism is and has always been a leftist ideology.

No ! it's a Socialist ideology in fact be it right wing or left, it's still Socialist construct that is key isse that wish to dominate over the people ! such is done in stealth ! so most people can not understand the cards that are being Played.

Such is all about deceptions and creating delusions for people too just swallow ! They claim Democracy as their own ? Stolen in fact right under most peoples nose in fact, so that it becomes a Socialist Democracy ? huge difference because They claim to be your guardian ? not yourself ? they steal that from you ! everything is turned upside down from the Democracy that our forefarthers gave freedom to them who were worthy. such had control over Governments as Governments served the People.

Socialism does not serve the People ? it controles over the People as such ownes you all, you have been Sold out as their Slaves ! you do not have true freedom of speech in fact !

Just look at Hitlers Socialist, it was democratic created and it was in fact right wing fascism !

The System as regards any Socialist system, works so as too gain total power over everyone ! That's a fact !

So if one does not go with what the Socialist Government is demanding ! you become what is called in their words, The undesirables ! we seen this insanity with Hillary Clinton !
Hitler called such Enemys of the State ! Because such were undesirables and Communism just shot and tortured anyone that they pleased in fact, that did not Idolise Communism.

Socialism after WW2 became a construct of doing the People over Slowly ! Fabian Socialism !

Hitlers Socialism was a fast tracked one, as was Communism a Creation of a Game play that hit the people so fast that they did not know what to do, in such troubling times.

But Socialism nowadays is a Slow death, mush as like bolling a Frog ? They trap everyone in Laws on top of Laws, so if one makes a move it's always Illegal, That's the way the Game is played ! It's check mate regardless. like any move that Trump makes the Socialist system demands cheak mate. So Trump is one of the frogs that is hopping about under their Curse.

So many people Idolise Socialism ! but the day that such is in total control you will all find yourself in the possition of the Law that dictates that you have to prove yourself not guilty of any charge !
Because the days that we once had, of inocent untill proven guilty, will be gone !
That's a clear fact of Socialism intent to turn the tables on everyone !

Oh the poor criminals will have to prove they are inocent ! Haha how the morons will cop it !

We have seen over the past years the dictates being Lorded over all, who do not blindly follow depravity of this new Socialist construct Age that serves Depravity and the lowest denominator as to be Idolised, Abortion on demand Gay Pride, Child grooming for depravity, you name it ! All a Socialist Construct in fact ! you are not alowed to call such out in fact or else. Such will only become dictated even more so !

We see people, say Trump for example being classed as guilty before proven guilty in fact !
May one ask, Who is it that comes up with such deceptions ? and peddles such ! The MS Media ? The Socialist !

How about Prince Andy ? has he been proven guilty ? No !
So now he is claimed guilty ! untill he can prove that he is not ! That's what it has become nowadays !
So who demands such insanity of all such attacks on ones person !
What if it's in fact not true and all a attack to slander a inocent ? like Jesus was in fact Inocent ! but who was the Cunning who wanted him out of the way and charged !

Under a Christian Nation one is inocent until proven guilty !
Socialism is not Christian in fact !

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Good grief Reggie.....are you so blinded by the politics that you fail to see the big picture?

Nothing happens in this world without God’s permission.....who are the fleshly Jews to God today?
They are just part of the blood spilling nations because God cast them off when they rejected his Christ.
Jesus’ words in Matt 23:37-39 sealed their fate....

“O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the city that kills the prophets and stones God’s messengers! How often I have wanted to gather your children together as a hen protects her chicks beneath her wings, but you wouldn’t let me. And now, look, your house is abandoned and desolate. For I tell you this, you will never see me again until you say, ‘Blessings on the one who comes in the name of the LORD !’” (NLT)
Jesus quoted Psalm 118:26 where the Tetragrammaton (יְהֹוָ֑ה) is there in the Hebrew Text.

When Israel was obedient to their God, he gave them the victory over their enemies....they needed no support from the nations ‘outside’....but when he abandoned them due to their disobedience in securing pagan nations for support, he allowed their enemies to conquer them.

What are we seeing in the Middle East? We are seeing the Jews reaping what they themselves have sown....
If God was for them....who could be against them? Their allies are those whose worship they despise, but they will feign friendship to secure their weaponry and military backup.

Jesus‘ words quoted above, were a warning to those of fleshly Israel....they have to bless the one who comes in the name of the LORD.....his LORD....his God...Yahweh/Jehovah....יְהֹוָ֑ה (John 17:20-26)

What do the words of the Lord’s Prayer highlight as to the importance of God’s name? It was first on the list.
Who were the ones who decided that God’s name was ‘too sacred to utter’?...and removed it from their speech? They preserved it in their sacred texts, as we can see the Tetragrammaton clearly in the Hebrew writings. How did God’s divine name become lost to the world, when he had clearly stated that he was to be known by this name throughout all their generations? (Exodus 3:13-15)

Christendom, in her translating of those Scriptures failed to include it, and instead adopted the Jewish tradition of substituting God’s name with a title “LORD” (Adonai)....one that was common in the day to refer to anyone in authority.....which devalues it as a “name” for the one and only, Almighty God. (Deut 6:4)

Seeing the big picture....God is not involved in any political wars of any nation in a world he has handed over to the devil to prove what a loser he is as man’s preferred ruler. (Luke 4:5-7) What political government has ever delivered what God would have delivered to the entire human race, if only Adam and his wife had obeyed him instead of the serpent?

Do you see what God’s Kingdom is? It is the means by which God will re-establish his rulership over the redeemed ones of mankind, who want peace and security of the permanent kind, that only God’s rulership can deliver.

Those fighting the useless wars of the nations, and those who support the bloodshed, will go down with the world that they are a part of. (John 18:36, Isa 1:15)

True Christians are those who are not participants, but neutral, uninvolved, innocent bystanders. God is in control of everything....or don’t you believe he is capable of taking care of his own business?

You are wrong ! I can see the big picture totaly !

It's Satanic to claim that nothing happens in this world without Christ Jesus permission !
Clearly you do not serve Christ Jesus because your gods are not worthy in fact !

Islam intent is to kill every one of your Religion in fact just as they will any Gay etc that is not worthy of their gods of Islam ! did you not know that is a fact ! so stop serving gods of Religious Lies and deceptions and delusions !

Their are worthy Jews in the State of Israel to the OT ! nothing is wrong with the OT, for they can easy come to Christ Jesus, just as it was 2000 years ago ! they can be our little brother that was Lost like the prodical son.

Your attack is on all of the people of the State.

Your comming from the Socialist MS Media's possition of outright Lies ! Israel was attacked fool ! and nothing but underhanded gutless intent played on the Jews ! For their whole intent clearly was and is to creat a Holocaust of all Jews in fact ! If you can not see that is a fact you are under strong delusions.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Not really in the "latter days", but He linked prophecies of the return of the children of Israel with the actual 'restoration' of the nation of Israel in the middle east WITH A KING, Lord Jesus Christ.

Matt 25:31-33
31 When the Son of man shall come in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then shall He sit upon the throne of His glory:

32 And before Him shall be gathered all nations: and He shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And He shall set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left.
KJV


Deceived Jews in today's nation of Israel, and outside it, are pushing the lie that the restoration of Israel is already happening today. It is not. The ten LOST tribes of Israel that were scattered first are not the ones returning since 1948. It is Jews of the 3-tribe "house of Judah" that is returning, along with foreigners that converted to Judaism long ago and also call themselves Jews. The ten LOST tribes of Israel are still scattered in the nations, and do not know who they are, having lost their identity and heritage as part of Israel long ago, according to God's Purpose.

The State of Israel has hope in such people who are true to the OT ! who could say it's not so !

Ok sure not all of the State are worthy of the OT ! But look who undermine the OT Jews with in the State ? It's Socialist in fact !

Socialism is just another creation of the Talmud.
The Talmud is not Jewish not of the OT.

I support all Jews who abide with the OT ! for they can become great Christians !

I do not support Socialist Jews nor any who serves the Talmud whore. for they are just as Islam an abomination of man made idoles !

 

[Button]

No ! it's a Socialist ideology in fact be it right wing or left, it's still Socialist construct that is key isse that wish to dominate over the people ! such is done in stealth ! so most people can not understand the cards that are being Played.

Such is all about deceptions and creating delusions for people too just swallow ! They claim Democracy as their own ? Stolen in fact right under most peoples nose in fact, so that it becomes a Socialist Democracy ? huge difference because They claim to be your guardian ? not yourself ? they steal that from you ! everything is turned upside down from the Democracy that our forefarthers gave freedom to them who were worthy. such had control over Governments as Governments served the People.

Socialism does not serve the People ? it controles over the People as such ownes you all, you have been Sold out as their Slaves ! you do not have true freedom of speech in fact !

Just look at Hitlers Socialist, it was democratic created and it was in fact right wing fascism !

The System as regards any Socialist system, works so as too gain total power over everyone ! That's a fact !

So if one does not go with what the Socialist Government is demanding ! you become what is called in their words, The undesirables ! we seen this insanity with Hillary Clinton !
Hitler called such Enemys of the State ! Because such were undesirables and Communism just shot and tortured anyone that they pleased in fact, that did not Idolise Communism.

Socialism after WW2 became a construct of doing the People over Slowly ! Fabian Socialism !

Hitlers Socialism was a fast tracked one, as was Communism a Creation of a Game play that hit the people so fast that they did not know what to do, in such troubling times.

But Socialism nowadays is a Slow death, mush as like bolling a Frog ? They trap everyone in Laws on top of Laws, so if one makes a move it's always Illegal, That's the way the Game is played ! It's check mate regardless. like any move that Trump makes the Socialist system demands cheak mate. So Trump is one of the frogs that is hopping about under their Curse.

So many people Idolise Socialism ! but the day that such is in total control you will all find yourself in the possition of the Law that dictates that you have to prove yourself not guilty of any charge !
Because the days that we once had, of inocent untill proven guilty, will be gone !
That's a clear fact of Socialism intent to turn the tables on everyone !

Oh the poor criminals will have to prove they are inocent ! Haha how the morons will cop it !

We have seen over the past years the dictates being Lorded over all, who do not blindly follow depravity of this new Socialist construct Age that serves Depravity and the lowest denominator as to be Idolised, Abortion on demand Gay Pride, Child grooming for depravity, you name it ! All a Socialist Construct in fact ! you are not alowed to call such out in fact or else. Such will only become dictated even more so !

We see people, say Trump for example being classed as guilty before proven guilty in fact !
May one ask, Who is it that comes up with such deceptions ? and peddles such ! The MS Media ? The Socialist !

How about Prince Andy ? has he been proven guilty ? No !
So now he is claimed guilty ! untill he can prove that he is not ! That's what it has become nowadays !
So who demands such insanity of all such attacks on ones person !
What if it's in fact not true and all a attack to slander a inocent ? like Jesus was in fact Inocent ! but who was the Cunning who wanted him out of the way and charged !

Under a Christian Nation one is inocent until proven guilty !
Socialism is not Christian in fact !

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Fascism is an ultranationalist, authoritarian political philosophy. It combines elements of nationalism, militarism, economic self-sufficiency, and totalitarianism. It opposes communism, socialism, pluralism, individual rights and equality, and democratic government.