Do you admit that the gospel cannot change the world?

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Reggie Belafonte

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My question is are you Jesus?

I didn’t say ‘one should not read the bible’ but you!

Obviously, your response definitely indicates you don’t know Jesus intimately!

Again, your response clearly indicates that you are just fabricating an opinion about Jesus, and worse, you anchored Jesus to the bible.

The Lord Jesus warned the devil of the things [written in the scriptures] God prohibited him from doing against the Lord his God. The focus was on the things that God prohibits him from doing against his Lord God, not the bible, as you only opined.
I thought by your post that the Bible was not worthy.

So you claim I do not support people reading the Bible, do you. that's Slander ! when the Bible is clearly worthy in regards God.

For if one has a good handle on the Bible and some stupid Priest starts getting off track, then one is informed and will not be lead astray ! like some stupid Roman Catholic nubskulls only listion to the crap that the child molestering etc so called Priest peddles. without even battering an eye. Oh father X is their god !

I pointed out to you who I am. any christian knows that their is only one Jesus who is The Christ Jesus ! as he is the Alpha and the Omega.

But clearly some have another Jesus. their own delusional one.
 
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I thought by your post that the Bible was not worthy.
The worthiness of the bible, as testimonies to God [whose name is Jesus] is only one, and that is to let us all know that there is God to whom we can always come at all times for us to have salvation and eternal life, no more, no less.
So you claim I do not support people reading the Bible, do you. that's Slander ! when the Bible is clearly worthy in regards God.
What do you have from the bible to support them with, and for what purpose do you have to do that? What have you heard from God about the worthiness of the bible for what?
For if one has a good handle on the Bible and some stupid Priest starts getting off track, then one is informed and will not be lead astray ! like some stupid Roman Catholic nubskulls only listion to the crap that the child molestering etc so called Priest peddles. without even battering an eye. Oh father X is their god !
You guys don’t know that Jesus alone is the Good Pastor and Teacher in his flock across all generations, do you? And the Lord Jesus sends no one to preach the bible.
I pointed out to you who I am. any christian knows that their is only one Jesus who is The Christ Jesus ! as he is the Alpha and the Omega.
Good!
But clearly some have another Jesus. their own delusional one.
How will you know Jesus then in the rightful manner?
I thought by your post that the Bible was not worth
We’re done with this one.
I thought by your post that the Bible was not worthy.

So you claim I do not support people reading the Bible, do you. that's Slander ! when the Bible is clearly worthy in regards God.

For if one has a good handle on the Bible and some stupid Priest starts getting off track, then one is informed and will not be lead astray ! like some stupid Roman Catholic nubskulls only listion to the crap that the child molestering etc so called Priest peddles. without even battering an eye. Oh father X is their god !

I pointed out to you who I am. any christian knows that their is only one Jesus who is The Christ Jesus ! as he is the Alpha and the Omega.

But clearly some have another Jesus. their own delusional one.


So you claim I do not support people reading the Bible, do you. that's Slander ! when the Bible is clearly worthy in regards God.

For if one has a good handle on the Bible and some stupid Priest starts getting off track, then one is informed and will not be lead astray ! like some stupid Roman Catholic nubskulls only listion to the crap that the child molestering etc so called Priest peddles. without even battering an eye. Oh father X is their god !

I pointed out to you who I am. any christian knows that their is only one Jesus who is The Christ Jesus ! as he is the Alpha and the Omega.

But clearly some have another Jesus. their own delusional one.
 
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The worthiness of the bible, as testimonies to God [whose name is Jesus] is only one, and that is to let us all know that there is God to whom we can always come at all times for us to have salvation and eternal life, no more, no less.

What do you have from the bible to support them with, and for what purpose do you have to do that? What have you heard from God about the worthiness of the bible for what?

You guys don’t know that Jesus alone is the Good Pastor and Teacher in his flock across all generations, do you? And the Lord Jesus sends no one to preach the bible.

Good!

How will you know Jesus then in the rightful manner?

We’re done with this one.
You want to get a good Bible, you may wake up to yourself.
 

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Could you point me to where in the bible did God and Jesus declare that the scriptures/bible is the word of God, will you?
Gladly, 2 Ti 3:16.."All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
 

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ok, where do you get the WORD of GOD...I get it from His Book.
I take the Word of God from the real and forever living Christ Jesus, who is beside you/me/them [though we do not see Him yet], He is in a 24/7 watch mode for those who will come and call on Him for their salvation and eternal life.

Thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

All of you who are listening, listen carefully! I am your Lord God. Who are you afraid of? I am the Almighty. Who are you intimidated by? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any calamity if you trust in Me and regard Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you alone will worship and none other, I am the one true God existing in heaven, earth, or universe. I created all things, I gave you life. Where will you go? If not to Me, you have nowhere else to go.
 

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Gladly, 2 Ti 3:16.."All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"
Paul, definitely, is not God and Jesus! Besides, Paul did not declare that the scriptures were the word of God, per se, did he?
 

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What makes you scared to tell the truth?
What if Christ tell me that I shouldn't tell it to anyone.
Anyway the whole Bible is the letter.
2 Corinthians 3:6
Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
 

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What if Christ tell me that I shouldn't tell it to anyone.
It proves the Lord Jesus is not your Pastor and Teacher. Listen first to Jesus and refrain from running ahead of the Lord Jesus.
Anyway the whole Bible is the letter.
2 Corinthians 3:6
Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

The bible is not the real and forever living Christ Jesus, to whom Christians take their teachings from. People who take their teachings from the bible are called bibliolaters.
 

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It proves the Lord Jesus is not your Pastor and Teacher. Listen first to Jesus and refrain from running ahead of the Lord Jesus.
It was you who said it, not me. :confused
The bible is not the real and forever living Christ Jesus, to whom Christians take their teachings from. People who take their teachings from the bible are called bibliolaters.
But without these, we would not be able to know Jesus Christ either.
 

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It was you who said it, not me. :confused

If Christ Jesus were your Pastor and Teacher, you would be emanating only from the Lord Jesus Christ, who would shepherd and guide you today. The Lord Jesus is the only Pastor and Teacher in His flock.

But without these, we would not be able to know Jesus Christ either.
Again, your narrative proves Jesus is not the source of your faith in God but the bible. We can only get to know the Lord Jesus by and through Himself alone, not through the bible, as you opined.
 

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Paul, definitely, is not God and Jesus! Besides, Paul did not declare that the scriptures were the word of God, per se, did he?
God and Jesus is the author of the entire Bible....Paul was just the writer. thus all the words in the Bible, every Jot and Tittle are His.
 
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I take the Word of God from the real and forever living Christ Jesus, who is beside you/me/them [though we do not see Him yet], He is in a 24/7 watch mode for those who will come and call on Him for their salvation and eternal life.

Thus saith the Lord Jesus Christ:

All of you who are listening, listen carefully! I am your Lord God. Who are you afraid of? I am the Almighty. Who are you intimidated by? Remember, when I am by your side, you have nothing to fear, nothing to worry about, because I will save you from any calamity if you trust in Me and regard Me as your salvation and eternal life. As your Lord, whom you alone will worship and none other, I am the one true God existing in heaven, earth, or universe. I created all things, I gave you life. Where will you go? If not to Me, you have nowhere else to go.
From what passage was the above quotation from Zec 8:9 but rather what version of the Bible...You are right, Those are not His words.
 

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God and Jesus is the author of the entire Bible....Paul was just the writer. thus all the words in the Bible, every Jot and Tittle are His.
You’re propagating a big lie by your declaration above. Paul’s words are not Jesus,’ and vice-versa.
 

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From what passage was the above quotation from Zec 8:9 but rather what version of the Bible...You are right, Those are not His words.
The quotation I posted is from the Lord Jesus Christ, who came into our lives for approximately fourteen (14) years. He spoke that message to us in 2001.
 

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Because the issue of faith is simply believing.
If those who claim to believe do something contrary to what they claim to believe,
For example, Israel, in the past, at present, and in the future.
Since Israel is back in the Land of the Bible as the Bible foretold, then we can believe the Bible is God's written Word for sure!