Linking a Man to an animal, is a sin - how much a slave to "linking with an animal" are Evolutionists (if sinning makes you a slave)?

[Armour of God]

Infers that there probably was one ancestor:
"Therefore I should infer from analogy that probably all the organic beings which have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form, into which life was first breathed by the Creator"

Later evidence shows that his inference was correct

Do you remember writing these things just yesterday?

Considering to say evidence shows that a universal common ancestor (UCA) is correct, I'd like to ask you about the creation account in Genesis.
It says that God created all the animals.
So then how can there possibly be a UCA?

 

[The Barbarian]

Infers that there probably was one ancestor:
"Therefore I should infer from analogy that probably all the organic beings which have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form, into which life was first breathed by the Creator"

Later evidence shows that his inference was correct

Do you remember writing these things just yesterday?

Yes. As you saw, Darwin thought that there could be some number of initial species created by God. That was a religious belief. He also mentioned that the evidence and analogy would lead him to infer that there probably was one ancestor of all living things. Turns out, his inference has since been supported by additional evidence,

As we discussed earlier, that is when an idea goes from a tentative hypothesis to a confirmed theory. Again, remember what "theory" means in science.

Considering to say evidence shows that a universal common ancestor (UCA) is correct, I'd like to ask you about the creation account in Genesis. It says that God created all the animals.

YECs are usually willing to admit that much. The issue is that don't approve of the way He did it.

So then how can there possibly be a UCA?

You do agree that God created you, right? And all your siblings?

So how can there possibly be a father who is the UCA of you and your siblings?

When you figure out that, you'll understand what YECs don't get about Genesis.

 

[The Barbarian]

Oh my goodness not this again. LoL.
We've been through this already, remember.
Darwin suggests multiple ancestors and he also suggests a single common ancestor.
We both agreed on this.

So you now admit that Darwin didn't say that there was one single common ancestor? We're making progress.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Sounds like the rugby league players up in northern England on a cold and miserable day hitting you square in the ribs with a front on tackle. Or the wharfies on Sydney docks back in the bad old days of the Painters and Dockers Union lol.

Or Tarzan the movie where he is being groomed into society with good manners but keeps on acting like an animal. But he is a amusing interest of study to the upper class.

The Negro slaves were deemed a lower class of humans. More towards an animal than human. This was and still is the basis for ideas stemming from evolution and the idea that humans are a sort of blank slate and we can recreate new versions of ourselves. But I think Ai and robotics has taken over.

It actually feeds into the idea that humans and life is merely naturalistic and consciousness is a byproduct of the physical. Under this idea machines can theorectically become conscious. So its no longer a case that humans have to evolve subject to NS and mutations. Humans can control the creation of life and make Ai copies who will be the next generation humans.

Christ is the way, truth and life. So any alternative will be like living a lie. That is satans objective. To copy God and create his own version of humans and life.

Bit it may look good but will never bring true peace and happiness.

Thats because its all about pride and not being willing to submit to God. Or anyone. Pride is now the greatest sin of the modern times where people want to be the gods of their own life and world. Submitting to God means oppression and they must resist the oppressor including God.

In regards of you Negro comment, even other types of Negroes in Africa look down on other types of Race tribes full on ! They sure hate the other tribes. so we have different types of blacks just in Africa.

Then in regards white races the same thing popes up, say with the scotish, were seen as to look out if you attacked them, by the English and the Italians who found out the same, as best not go past that line or you will regret it !

Asians have the same deal, as they all do not get along that well.

But in Australia we are peddled by all morons, is that only white people are Racest ! and not to question that ! you are all racist regardless and privliaged ! such is a 3rd rate spastic opinion, that has been dictated for some years by stuck up blow flys !

Nowadays we have jerks that call themselves Metrosexuals ? They full on believe that they are an advanced people, that is so way above their parents and so on in fact !
They believe they are the future ! so much more evolved ! but they are total Jerks, who idolise themselves = Boy men ? Who never truly matured !
So they have to justfy themselves, so they look down on their forefathers, as lower humans or evolved from apes story comes into play as worthy.

Such deceptions are created by Socialist cultral Maxist dribble, that clearly only wants to dominate over everyone ! so out comes all of the tabboos !

I grew up in an era when anyone peddled something was tabboo was looked down upon as a total moronic jerk fool ! and a type of childish karma has come more and more peddled.

So all of the pathetic nonsense is being promoted nowadays ! such is created to creat deceptions and delusions ! = a weak minded people who lack Virtue. like religious dolts ? Idolising nonsense !

 

[Armour of God]

So you now admit that Darwin didn't say that there was one single common ancestor? We're making progress

No, what are you talking about.
Are you denying a UCA again.
Maybe you didn't properly read what I said.
I said Darwin suggests a UCA and he also suggest multiple common ancestors. He makes these two suggestions
We both agreed on this. You admitted this yourself in your post just before.

Infers that there probably was one ancestor:
"Therefore I should infer from analogy that probably all the organic beings which have ever lived on this earth have descended from some one primordial form, into which life was first breathed by the Creator"

Later evidence shows that his inference was correct

See you wrote this. Your agreeing on a UCA

Yes. As you saw, Darwin thought that there could be some number of initial species created by God. That was a religious belief. He also mentioned that the evidence and analogy would lead him to infer that there probably was one ancestor of all living things. Turns out, his inference has since been supported by additional evidence

And you wrote this. Again confirming that Darwin suggested a UCA.

Whatever. Don't worry about it
Your just confusing me now
Not making any sense

 

[TazzJazz]

"There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed by the Creator into a few forms or into one; and that, whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being evolved."
Charles Darwin, last sentence of On the Origin of Species

My statement stands.That was written 167 years ago! Science today does not accept any ID explanation, for anything. You know that. Be honest.

 

[Armour of God]

@Gottservant @rvmb @Taken @TazzJazz @Reggie Belafonte @Wrangler @Jesussaves150 @stevesonthebay @The Barbarian @amigo de christo @VictoryinJesus @Jericho

My friends

Through an extensive scientific debate on this thread I have successfully refuted the evolutionists erroneous claims for all to see

I have exposed them to be unscientific, not based on observable facts but based on wild speculation and wishful assumptions

I thank God that no one on this forum was fooled or deceived by these false misconceptions

Glory be to God and may
His peace and grace be with you

 

[The Barbarian]

My statement stands.That was written 167 years ago!

From the 20th century:

Science today does not accept any ID explanation, for anything. You know that. Be honest.

ID is a religious doctrine, and science is unable to comment on the supernatural. However, scientists can. Learn about it here:

BioLogos - God's Word. God's World. - BioLogos

Are science and religion at war? Many people today believe they are in conflict. BioLogos exists to show that you don’t have to choose between modern science and biblical faith.

biologos.org

 

[The Barbarian]

Through an extensive scientific debate on this thread I have successfully refuted the evolutionists erroneous claims for all to see

A very wise general, back during the Vietnam unpleasantness, was asked what could be done about what was becoming manifestly impossible to win. He said "declare victory and get the heck out." Or something like that. Wise decision.

 

[stevesonthebay]

In regards of you Negro comment, even other types of Negroes in Africa look down on other types of Race tribes full on ! They sure hate the other tribes. so we have different types of blacks just in Africa.

Yes and I think the basic tribalism is still happening today with identity politics. Humans have this base inherent ideology of dividing into different like minded groups who will pit themselves against the outsiders. They will inevitable find something to cast them aside and in the end eliminate them as a percieved threat.

Then in regards white races the same thing popes up, say with the scotish, were seen as to look out if you attacked them, by the English and the Italians who found out the same, as best not go past that line or you will regret it !

Even the same rave and ethnic groups can group into tribes for various reasons. Look at the Irish conflict based on Protestants and Catholics. Though it was more than that (nationalism). But nonetheless the same people divided and killing each other. It doesn't take much for us to even turn on each other. Usually politics and religion or land and money.

Asians have the same deal, as they all do not get along that well.

Yes though I think most Asians who settle in other nations keep to themselves. Or are very sneaky. But they take on a sunissive approach which is in their culture.

But in Australia we are peddled by all morons, is that only white people are Racest ! and not to question that ! you are all racist regardless and privliaged ! such is a 3rd rate spastic opinion, that has been dictated for some years by stuck up blow flys !

I remember stories from Aboriginals of how they had many nations in the distant past which warred against each other that would make the colonialist like like they were play fighting. They were very vicious and ruthless in their battles. Very tribal.

If anything I think the west had brought some measure of peace and coexistence. Not perfect by any means. But an improvement on the animalistic and savagery of primitive humans.

Nowadays we have jerks that call themselves Metrosexuals ? They full on believe that they are an advanced people, that is so way above their parents and so on in fact !
They believe they are the future ! so much more evolved ! but they are total Jerks, who idolise themselves = Boy men ? Who never truly matured !
So they have to justfy themselves, so they look down on their forefathers, as lower humans or evolved from apes story comes into play as worthy.

Yes there is an inherent progression towards a superior race according to atheism and materialist sciences. Though science is now used to support subjective beliefs. There is not truth or facts in a postmodern world.

Now everything is measured by identity and self referential truths based on experiences and feelings. Feminism has become institutional and we see the degrading of sex and gender as a social construction. So people especially young people have no role models and are brain washed by whatever current ideology is being pushed. In recent times Woke, PC, DEI and Trans ect.

When God is taken away then so is reality itself. Humans become the gods and reconstruct everything according to their own beliefs and ideologies.

Such deceptions are created by Socialist cultral Maxist dribble, that clearly only wants to dominate over everyone ! so out comes all of the tabboos !

Yes thats another one. There is an accumulation of ideas and philosophies and people pick and choose like its a boutique for how to live life and order the world. Half the problem is we have had it too easy and soft. People forget the horrors of these ideas they want to push on society.

I grew up in an era when anyone peddled something was tabboo was looked down upon as a total moronic jerk fool ! and a type of childish karma has come more and more peddled.

Yes it seems simple and commonsense. But now everything is blurred and no one can say there is any facts or truths and everything is relative. Even rationalising crazy ideas or lies as the truth and good.

But reality has a way of coming back to bite people and we are seeing some of this now. But because its a belief and people are brainwashed it sometimes if ever takes some time to straughten out.

But I think at the same time theres this incoherent drive towards chaos. A growing number just want chaos to detroy the world as they don't like it. They want everything to burn and breakdown. Perhaps this is the end result of rebelling against God.

So all of the pathetic nonsense is being promoted nowadays ! such is created to creat deceptions and delusions ! = a weak minded people who lack Virtue. like religious dolts ? Idolising nonsense !

Yes and I think there is not to much we can do except keep declaring the truth. If people don't like it then walk away and let them be and do what they do. Eventually the truth will prevail.

Afterall its a spiritual battle/ Its no longer just about animal instincts, politics or religion. Its all converged into one realm of conflict which is spiritual. People will believe what they believe even if its crazy and now people are making their choice. Now tribes are willing to destroy anything that disagrees with their choice. Like we are returning to the ancient tribes with their pagan gods that fought Gods people.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Yes and I think the basic tribalism is still happening today with identity politics. Humans have this base inherent ideology of dividing into different like minded groups who will pit themselves against the outsiders. They will inevitable find something to cast them aside and in the end eliminate them as a percieved threat.

Even the same rave and ethnic groups can group into tribes for various reasons. Look at the Irish conflict based on Protestants and Catholics. Though it was more than that (nationalism). But nonetheless the same people divided and killing each other. It doesn't take much for us to even turn on each other. Usually politics and religion or land and money.

Yes though I think most Asians who settle in other nations keep to themselves. Or are very sneaky. But they take on a sunissive approach which is in their culture.

I remember stories from Aboriginals of how they had many nations in the distant past which warred against each other that would make the colonialist like like they were play fighting. They were very vicious and ruthless in their battles. Very tribal.

If anything I think the west had brought some measure of peace and coexistence. Not perfect by any means. But an improvement on the animalistic and savagery of primitive humans.

Yes there is an inherent progression towards a superior race according to atheism and materialist sciences. Though science is now used to support subjective beliefs. There is not truth or facts in a postmodern world.

Now everything is measured by identity and self referential truths based on experiences and feelings. Feminism has become institutional and we see the degrading of sex and gender as a social construction. So people especially young people have no role models and are brain washed by whatever current ideology is being pushed. In recent times Woke, PC, DEI and Trans ect.

When God is taken away then so is reality itself. Humans become the gods and reconstruct everything according to their own beliefs and ideologies.

Yes thats another one. There is an accumulation of ideas and philosophies and people pick and choose like its a boutique for how to live life and order the world. Half the problem is we have had it too easy and soft. People forget the horrors of these ideas they want to push on society.

Yes it seems simple and commonsense. But now everything is blurred and no one can say there is any facts or truths and everything is relative. Even rationalising crazy ideas or lies as the truth and good.

But reality has a way of coming back to bite people and we are seeing some of this now. But because its a belief and people are brainwashed it sometimes if ever takes some time to straughten out.

But I think at the same time theres this incoherent drive towards chaos. A growing number just want chaos to detroy the world as they don't like it. They want everything to burn and breakdown. Perhaps this is the end result of rebelling against God.

Yes and I think there is not to much we can do except keep declaring the truth. If people don't like it then walk away and let them be and do what they do. Eventually the truth will prevail.

Afterall its a spiritual battle/ Its no longer just about animal instincts, politics or religion. Its all converged into one realm of conflict which is spiritual. People will believe what they believe even if its crazy and now people are making their choice. Now tribes are willing to destroy anything that disagrees with their choice. Like we are returning to the ancient tribes with their pagan gods that fought Gods people.

Good to see that you have your head screwed on correctly ! I agree totaly with you !

The Truth is the Truth regardless !

Tho look at who wants to shut people down and push some dribbling nonsense agenda, so as to be idolised by all, or else paint such as the bad guy !

Real Christians are to stand up for Truth ! because being lead astray never ends up being for anyones good down the track !
But the Truth hurts ones who are clearly under delusions !

 

[Taken]

Science is nothing new.
Science is simply, discovery and use.

Science… was taught in Scripture.

Science … Discovery has its merits.

It is the USE, of Discoveries…that Divides, between Gods Intent and Discontent.

USE for GOOD, is followed by a blessing from God.

USE for EVIL, is followed by A withheld blessing from God.

Play on words…
GOOD…maximizing the Sound of GOD, equal to GOOD.

EVIL…ADD A “D” D-evil…
Reverse The letters LIVED.
Play in the devils sandbox…and LIVED…is your permanent ENDING.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[The Barbarian]

Science is nothing new.
Science is simply, discovery and use.

Yes. It's a method. No more, no less. It's just the best method we can do for understanding the way the physical universe works.

It is the USE, of Discoveries…that Divides, between Gods Intent and Discontent.

Yes. That's technology. The utilization of scientific knowledge. And that can be either good, evil, or indifferent.

 

[Taken]

Linking a Man to an animal, is a sin - how much a slave to "linking with an animal" are Evolutionists (if sinning makes you a slave)?

Animals are Creatures with:
…a body & soul
Humans are Creatures with:
…a body & soul & spirit


Animals have no logical sense of right and wrong.
They are instinctual:
Protective, Defensive, Fearless, Reproductive, Avoid Harm, Food finders, Shelter builders, Warning alerts, Sharing, Tentative, etc.

And would say, such characteristics and being created BEFORE manKIND, have been from ancient days to modern days…expert intended specimens to observe as a Great Benefit to manKIND.

Glory to God,
Taken