The Church as Noah's Ark

[amigo de christo]

The pastors as Noah's Ark. I would say that all pastors in all churches are their own unique creation with their own unique testimony. This makes it hard for me to recommend or criticize a church when I know nothing of the senior pastor.

we can only correct and rebuke what we know to be false doctrine and false folks .
If you dont know , you dont know . but if or when we do know , Expose that wolf for the sake of others .
And noww a word .
I know ecumeincalism interfaith IS of that which is of anti christ .
Now this dont mean everyone in an ecumeincal church IS AN anti christ , but it darn sure Is where they are being led too .
Get every man , woman and child out ta anything ecumenincal now .
I also know the RCC is false . and so too is the nar realm . We are in deadly and dire grave danger in these last hours .
THEY ALL SOLD OUT to the harlot now . and they will lead this people to their own destruction .

 

[Dan Clarkston]

This makes it hard for me to recommend or criticize a church when I know nothing of the senior pastor.

And one can sit through one sermon and tell pretty quick if the guy is being led by the true Holy Spirit or the fake "holy spirit"

That is if one is mindful of the whole counsel of God and isn't as cherry picker.

 

[rockytopva]

If I had to take a stab of the seven stars (messengers) to the seven candlesticks (churches)...

Original messenger - Church
1. Peter - Messianic
2. Paul - Early Gentile
3. Constantine - Greek Orthodox
4. Theodosius I - Catholic
5. Martin Luther - Protestant
6. John Wesley - The revived church (Methodist - Pentecostal)
7. Robert Shuller - The Country Club

One Church... Millions of congregations...
1. Ephesus - Messianic Jewish Church
2. Smyrna - Oriental Orthodox - The Roman persecutions were ten
3. Pergamos - Greek Orthodox - Pergos... A tower... Needed in the dark ages
4. Thyatira - Catholic - Middle ages
5. Sardis - Protestant - A sardis is a gem... Beautiful,,, Not much spiritually
6. Philadelphia - Wesleyan - Too bad the revivals didn't last longer
7. Laodicean - Word of Faith - Rich and have need of nothing?

Seven candlesticks - Seven generalized congregation - All unique - And Christ walking in the midst
Seven seals - Those names written in the Lambs Book of Life
Seven stars - Those messengers to the congregations - Bible Gateway passage: Revelation 1 - King James Version

Very much the church of Noah's Ark. I have not recommendations for single one. But would recommend finding one to one's own liking. As far as the Catholic church I would admit to an overly controlling and dominating spirit. If someone here is Catholic and enjoys there stay, well... They have permission to do that. I would have no interest in joining.

There are rules that state here...

[*]Do not state or imply that another member or group of members who have identified themselves as Christian are not Christians. If there is an issue where a member seems to have circumvented the basic tenants of the faith in order to join the community, please privately contact the Christianity Board Team to voice your concern.
[*]Denominational Posts – Excessive posts either attempting to either push a single denomination (or group) or attacking another denomination are included in this rule.

 

[rockytopva]

I am also glad we do not have denominational sub-forums. The intent as I understand it is for Christianity Board to be a place of fellowship for all believers.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

The intent as I understand it is for Christianity Board to be a place of fellowship for all believers.

You mean like the ecumenical movement where those with unbiblical beliefs and practices are considered to be in right standing with the Lord even though they are not?

 

[rockytopva]

You mean like the ecumenical movement where those with unbiblical beliefs and practices are considered to be in right standing with the Lord even though they are not?

Then said I, Ah Lord God! they say of me, Doth he not speak parables? - Ezekiel 20:49

You can take the parables of scripture and make doctrine out of it. And have many seeing those parables in different ways. Notes on the seriousness of persecuting people on the grounds of doctrine.... And... I believe one ought to think real hard about any kind of offense towards other believers on doctrinal grounds... Noting the quote by Michael Servetus that, "even the elect ones may be led astray into error."

"Neither God nor his Spirit have counseled such an action. Christ did not treat those who negated him that way." - Italian poet Camillo Renato on the Michael Servetus execution

"To kill a man is not to protect a doctrine, but it is to kill a man." - French humanist Sébastien Chateillon on the Michael Servetus execution

"I consider it a serious matter to kill men because they are in error on some question of scriptural interpretation, when we know that even the elect ones may be led astray into error." - Michael Servetus

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Christ did not treat those who negated him that way

That's funny because He sure did not accept or fellowship with the pharisees and sadducees

Nobody is talking about killing someone for their false beliefs.

God's Word tells us to not bid Godspeed or be in fellowship with those that do not abide in the doctrine of Christ.

There are warnings about this in God's Word. But in modern ecumenical times looks like anything goes as long as one claims they are a "Christian" including new age and witchcraft who has adherents that claim to be "Christians"

The one world religion is already afoot.

 

[rockytopva]

That's funny because He sure did not accept or fellowship with the pharisees and sadducees

Nobody is talking about killing someone for their false beliefs.

God's Word tells us to not bid Godspeed or be in fellowship with those that do not abide in the doctrine of Christ.

There are warnings about this in God's Word. But in modern ecumenical times looks like anything goes as long as one claims they are a "Christian" including new age and witchcraft who has adherents that claim to be "Christians"

The one world religion is already afoot.

Beliefs that do not come directly from scripture...

Trinity
Rapture
Once Saved Always Saved
The Virgin Mary was always that way
The Seven Church Ages

So... Truth... You are going to persecution (both here on earth and in the afterlife) for not believing in my interpretation of the Trinity. Is that the way I am supposed to treat people who I feel have false beliefs?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Beliefs that do not come directly from scripture...

Trinity
Rapture
Once Saved Always Saved
The Virgin Mary was always that way
The Seven Church Ages

So... Truth... You are going to persecution (both here on earth and in the afterlife) for not believing in my interpretation of the Trinity. Is that the way I am supposed to treat people who I feel have false beliefs?

Like I said, Jesus did not accept or fellowship with the pharisees and sadducees because they taught false doctrine.

2 John 1:9
Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.

And just so you know there is biblical evidence of The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as well as the catching away of the church (rapture)

And if I tell someone I don't believe the way they do, that's not "persecution"

Persecution is trying to kill people for their beliefs or get them fired from their job or trying to damage them in some way and I'm not doing any of that.

We are to contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints (Jude 1:3) and that faith is the Doctrine of Christ

 

[Dan Clarkston]

The fake Church as great flood.

The fake "church" be going to spend eternity in hell with the devil and all his demons.

 

[soberxp]

The fake "church" be going to spend eternity in hell with the devil and all his demons.

I don't care about you, cuz any of you for me meaning nothing.

I only care about myself and will of God.

 

[soberxp]

The fake Church as great flood.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I only care about myself and will of God.

Funny how you put yourself before the Lord.

 

[soberxp]

Funny how you put yourself before the Lord.

As a human being which always put the will of self before anything.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

As a human being which always put the will of self before anything.

Real Christians have been bought with a price and are not their own as they have put the will of the Lord before their own will.

Those who put their own will before the Lord's are yet carnal and are engaging in idolatry as they love themselves before they love the Lord.

In other words they are their own saviors and they worship themselves.

 

[lforrest]

As a human being which always put the will of self before anything.

Satan was the first to put his will first. It is the original sin. This is human nature that must be overcome. Doesn't matter if everyone does it... Wide is the path that leads to destruction.

 

[Davy]

>>>"Hippolytus- the ideal of the church as a pure community and not tolerating sins, a church of the pure.
In that case, an EMPTY church since ALL believers sin in some way.

So Hippolytus never forgave a brother who repented like Lord Jesus said to do? I can't believe that. We have to be careful when someone who doesn't really know paints a negative picture of one of the early Church fathers.

And IMHO, the 'unclean' was NOT allowed aboard Noah's ark. That is why there were only 8 souls saved on the ark.

In Noah's day, because of what Satan's angels had done with taking wives of the daughters of men, mankind (except Noah and his immediately family) had their bloodlines tainted. Satan was trying to wipe out the Seed of the Woman which Christ would be born through in attempt to stop Christ's later crucifixion and resurrection. He kept at it too all the way up to when baby Jesus was born.

Noah's ark is used as a symbol for Christ's faithful Church that keep His commandments and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ per the Revelation 12 Chapter.