soberxp
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So this prophecy was predicted twice, right?
So which one is true and which one is false?
Should we as Christians support the State of Israel ?
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So which one is true and which one is false?
soberxp
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This is not what Jesus and the Bible say.prophet.
This is a false .prophet that the Zionists used the media to publicize.
And the reconstruction of secular Israel in 1948.It's like a miracle to show it before your eyes.shew signs and wonders, to seduce,
if it were possible, even the elect.
If you want to prove me wrong, please quote the prophet in the Bible to illustrate you.The correct view.
This is a false .prophet that the Zionists used the media to publicize.
And the reconstruction of secular Israel in 1948.It's like a miracle to show it before your eyes.shew signs and wonders, to seduce,
if it were possible, even the elect.
If you want to prove me wrong, please quote the prophet in the Bible to illustrate you.The correct view.
I think you prove yourself wrong when you post. Sit back and watch God fight for Israel, again and again and again. I hope you don't get in His way.
Ez 34 might be a start if you use an interlinear to clarify the translations' context.
That is you opinion based on a flawed translations of the Hebrew Text where there was a focus on the "land" covenants.
Really? Have all people of the nation of Israel returned to the Land of Canaan? The answer is NO based on the number of Israelites living outside of the Land of Canaan.
Why do you believe, because I am presenting a very different understanding presented in our existing translations from your understanding, that I am obsessed against Israel?
You have not provided any evidence to substantiate that that is the case.
Aunty Jane
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This is another knee jerk response Reggie....
Go back to the first century when Jesus walked the earth...did he tell his people to fight the Romans because they were subjugating and oppressing them?
What did the Roman Empire provide for the Jews, in spite of the dominance it held over them? It had a legal system and a military presence that kept the peace...the Pax Romana.
No Jew could be a soldier in Caesar’s army because that would have been fighting for the enemy.
Jesus told the Jews that they were to be no part of that world....no part of the world’s rulership that he knew God had handed over to the devil. (Luke 4:5-7)
Now look back and see what our position is with regard to the ruling authorities over us....today.
The world provides for Christians today what the Roman rulership did for Christ’s disciples in the first century.
The preaching of Christ’s disciples depended on relative freedom of movement, which could not have been done in political chaos.
We don’t have to be part of the world to benefit from its relative protections. We work to support ourselves and we pay taxes as Jesus told us to....”pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God”.
But we will not break God’s law to obey man’s law....(Acts 5:29)
“Your mob” we know is an Aussie expression to encompass an unpopular group who uphold ideas in common.....but your broad brush stroke fails to understand that there is so much more to this issue than patriotic favouritism on a purely political level.
God gave the devil rulership over the whole world, and he can run his world as he pleases.....the world will do what the world will do...it affects us as we have to live in the world, but we do not have to become part of it.....or lift up weapons to bring about outcomes in that sphere of life....God knows all about it and if something needs doing, he will influence an outcome if it is in harmony with his purpose.....without using us.
You don’t believe that we are living in the end times? You think what is happening in the world is just a coincidence and that humans will save the day with their bloodshed? When has that ever happened? When have man’s wars ever ended wars?
That is not us Reggie....who told you it was. We rely on what God allows in the world, not thinking that we have to step in on his behalf......breaking his laws is never a good idea......
We police ourselves....we are law abiding citizens and we pay our taxes...you won’t find us in jail for breaking God’s law....maybe only for refusing to do so.
You are dead wrong....
If God was fighting for the Jews, they would need no help from anyone.
We are living in the nuclear age and one idiot with his finger on the button could launch the whole world into a nuclear conflagration.....so you really think God will allow corrupt humans on an ego trip, to ruin his handiwork?
God promised in Rev 11:18...speaking about our time.....
“But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”
We can count on that.
Luke 1:68
68 "Blessed is the Lord God of Israel, For He has visited and redeemed His people,
Yes I believe so. Like the old saying, "Let go and let God".......as the scripture says to be still and know that He is God. Give up, surrender to HIM is the message I see:
Luk 14:31
“Or suppose a king is about to go to war against another king. Won’t he first sit down and consider whether he is able with ten thousand men to oppose the one coming against him with twenty thousand? (judgment on the way...isn't that what is happening now? Can we win against the Almighty?)
If he is not able, he will send a delegation while the other is still a long way off and will ask for terms of peace. (terms of surrender, basically)
In the same way, those of you who do not give up everything you have cannot be my disciples.
NayborBear
Active Member
(raises hand)
I will! I will!
Psalm 110:1
The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
At this time however?
However? I believe we are at this stage:
2 Thessalonians 2:
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
And we certainly can see (those eyes that can see, and ears that can hear) this falling away!
Like a runaway hell bound train! Running downhill!.........WITH a tail wind!
"Yah'-uh-'Vay" BLESS Israel!
amigo de christo
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during this last generation it sure seems many have already moved far from earth
and live on some planet and its alien ways too .
used to be said men are far from mars and women from venus
but this generation and its all out reprobation that has more g enders than carter had liver pills
Sounds like its reasoning cometh of another planet all together . And for the sake of not totally
offending every man woman and child , lets just say it starts with A U
and a black hole engulfs it . come now i am sure you know what planet starts with a U
and why i said that planet . cause it sounds like they got they info FROM it . FOR SURE it aint the T RUTH they recieved .
amigo de christo
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Though i am sure you do not do as they do ,
That ol saying to LET GOD and LET GOD . WAS USED AGAINST the v ery pattern left us in said bible
which had worked to our good .
They may as well have said LET GO OF THE BIBLE and let this other god and emotions lead you . cause that is exactly
what they did .
same with the WE GOTTA TAKE GOD OUTTA the box , dont put GOD into a box . THEY DID THE SAME THING .
it was used for , HEY lets remove the image of the GOD in said bible and recreate one in our own image .
cause again that is exactly what they did .
amigo de christo
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let us go too and behold what james said about such a prophecy in AMOS .
And HE USED it NOT to rebuild A TEMPLE MADE BY HANDS either .
THIS was all about JESUS and the gospel . But as you said and well said
ZIONISTS of the wrong zion and NOT THE HEAVENLY ZION , used it
to promote THE FLESH and THE EARTHERN KINGDOM .
WHEN ALL ALONG it was about THE HEAVENLY ONE . people need to read their bibles for them selves .
amigo de christo
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We are big time at this stage . but i find it rather odd that even many
who say so are still following and hoping in the v ery earthern kingdom
OF WHICH ANTI CHRIST SHALL RULE OVER and his RELIION rule from .
OH there is a massive falling away all right and many suckle from the tits and the teets of a well favored harlot
who has sold her anti christ , abraham lie accords , under guise of PEACE of the world .
ANYONE bother to read the wicked thing . DID ANYONE bother to READ that wicked anti christ thing .
Saying the muslims , jews and christains SERVE THE SAME GOD . That which is of anti christ
WILL TAKE ALL not in the lambs book of life to its universal love and peace plan . TO THE DAY OF THEIR OWN PERDTION
where much wailing shall be heard , BUT IT WILL BE TOO LATE on that day .
amigo de christo
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I aint the one sitting under ecumencism of anti christ . b ut believe me when i say
both sides of the political realm sure are . and have long preached it in different ways to their peoples .
its not me sitting in ecumeincalism of anti christ in them sold out churches either .
THEY TOO are leading every last one , who does sit in and join hands with them , RIGHT TO THE LIE
and to the day of the days of all out wailing wherein screams of terror and wailing will be heard
ONLY THEN ITS TOO LATE . THE DOOR GONNA CLOSE
and its gonna close in a day and an hour known to NO MAN . WHEN IT DO , ALL OUTSIDE gonna wail .
SO when i say get everyone OUT of anything that is even in any way connected too ecumeincalism , YA better HEED IT NOW .
