Yes, I have read it. And your conclusion is without foundation so to speak. It isn't whether you are born from above etc. Only the almighty determines how people are woken from the dead.
The "sudden destruction" from which unbelievers "will not escape" on the day of the Lord will be caused by fire coming down on the earth.
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You just make things up. Unless you start actually exegeting scripture and showing how it backs up your claims, I have no choice but to just ignore your posts from now on.
Just because thou doesn't know Greek, that does not mean I won't respond to thy mistakes.
But here,
[Jhn 3:3 KJV] 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot SEE the kingdom of God.
It does not say born-agains have already entered the kingdom of God. The Kingdom of God was nearby. It isn't anymore.
More empty words from you. I can safely conclude that you are incapable of backing up your claims with scripture, since you never do it.
@Spiritual Israelite They are not empty words; you just don't know how to use the Blue Letter Bible.
I use it often, so you just continue to prove that you have no idea of what you're talking about.
I am not the one who thinks John 3:3 is about the resurrection of the dead. It isn't. You have nothing valuable to say anyway.
Neither am I. What did I say to give you that impression? It looks like you may have poor reading comprehension skills.
Right.
LOL.
Born up means either someone is persuaded by God to join the early church or someone has the holy spirit. Yes, I misread you.
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Yes!! Most Born again Christians understand that to be the blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, whereby there is NEVER forgiveness.
Heb. 10
26 For if we sin wilfully [despise the Truth] after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he WAS sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge [chastise, and even cut off] his people.
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The way I understand this passage in Jo 3 is that one must be born again of the Spirit to both know and enter the spiritual Kingdom of God. This passage dwells upon the spiritual Kingdom of God without any reference to the Kingdom of God as it physically exists on this earth through the church that is the body/bride of Christ. Because Nicodemus, a Jewish Pharisee believed that eternal salvation was for the Jews born through the physical seed of Abraham, and salvation was according to obedience to the Laws of God given to them.
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