Is it okay to blame God for stuff that is his fault?

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Jack

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LOL… people who post Dumb claims, obviously, reveal a wise conclusion is foreign to them and beyond their understanding capability.

For you… down to your level…
You will soon believe your name on this forum is Jack.
Oh that's right, you said you NEVER sin, didn't you? So what's gonna happen to all these people here who sin??? Don't be evasive as usual!
 

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But you do claim there won't be any people suffering for eternity in hell which is in opposition to what Jesus said.

You have a reputation for speaking for others.

I can not find Jesus saying…
“People” will suffer for eternity in hell”…

Can you quote that Scripture?
 

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You have a reputation for speaking for others.

I can not find Jesus saying…
“People” will suffer for eternity in hell”…

Can you quote that Scripture?
But He did several times!

Matthew 25:46
46 And these will go away into ETERNAL punishment, but the righteous into ETERNAL life."

Eternal, EXACT same Greek word! If you don't believe in eternal Hell you can't have eternal life!
 

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Surely you don’t expect an answer to your question after adding a snarky unsubstantiated accusation…
You said you NEVER sin! What will happen to all here who sin?
 

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I can not find Jesus saying…
“People” will suffer for eternity in hell”…

Can you quote that Scripture?

I already did, numerous times as you are already aware of and have already rejected claiming Jesus is ignorant and does not know what He is talking about (that's what one is saying when they refuse to accept what Jesus says).

Here's the list again showing Jesus saying people will actually suffer in hell:

Matthew 13:41,42
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

*Those that cease to exist wouldn't be wailing and gnashing of teeth


Mark 9:43-44
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

*Their torment and punishment never stops


Matthew 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

*They get the same reward as satan and all his demons


Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

*Notice their punishment is everlasting, meaning they do not cease to exist as you claim

John 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

*Notice the are resurrected unto damnation, not ceasing to exist as you claim
 
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But He did several times!

Matthew 25:46
46 And these will go away into ETERNAL punishment, but the righteous into ETERNAL life..

“These…”…whom exactly (according to you) are These?
 

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“These…”…whom exactly (according to you) are These?
It clearly tells us:

Matthew 25:31-32
31 "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats.
 

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Here's the list again showing Jesus saying people will actually suffer in hell:

Matthew 13:41,42
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

*Those that cease to exist wouldn't be wailing and gnashing of teeth


Mark 9:43-44
And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

*Their torment and punishment never stops


Matthew 25:41
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

*They get the same reward as satan and all his demons


Matthew 25:46
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

*Notice their punishment is everlasting, meaning they do not cease to exist as you claim

John 5:29
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

*Notice the are resurrected unto damnation, not ceasing to exist as you claim

You said “Jesus said People”… but that is not mentioned in any Scripture you quoted.
 

Jack

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You said “Jesus said People”… but that is not mentioned in any Scripture you quoted.
People is clearly implied! Why do you want to twist the Hell out of the Bible? Are you JW?
 

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It clearly tells us:

Matthew 25:31-32
31 "When the Son of Man comes in His glory, and all the holy angels with Him, then He will sit on the throne of His glory. 32 All the nations will be gathered before Him, and He will separate them one from another, as a shepherd divides his sheep from the goats.

@Dan Clarkston

You both… falsely speak for others.
You both…ignore word highlights and meanings.

People are a group of Persons.
A person is a living human with body and soul.
A dead human is a body without life and his living soul departed.

No one has denied the Fire in hell is eternal.

The they and them / right and left are …
the…Righteous and UnRighteous…
the ..Saved and Unsaved.

The Righteous Saved ARE MADE, by Gods Power, to live Forever.

The UN-Righteous (unsaved) “are NOT” MADE to live Forever.

The Righteous Saved and Eternally MADE LIVING shall dwell WITH God Forever.

The UnRighteous, Unsaved, shall Be Judged,
ALL LIFE Departed from Them and Be sentenced to Be thrown into the Eternally burning Fire, and Burned up, remembered no more.

Their Punishment, Separation from God IS Eternal…
Their Punishment is Eternal…
That…Never shall there be an Offering, an Opportunity for their Body and Soul to Be forgiven, Restored, Made Alive Again, or With God.

Fallen angels shall be thrown in the same Eternal Fire.
They can NOT die, thus shall suffer burning alive forever, with no power to escape.

You two…have some weird teaching…
Of indicating “the UNRIGHTEOUS” are MADE to be alive Forever…so they can suffer A burning Fire Forever…


No where does Scripture Teach, such a silly notion that…UnRighteous men, are Made to be eternally Alive.

Seriously…
Fallen angels can not die and will suffer being in Fire they can not escape.

Human lifeless body’s feel zero torment being buried, burned, cremated, autopsied, eaten by animals!

Human mans Soul, becomes Dead, when God Removes his Breath of Life from that Soul… and THAT occurs… After finality of Judgement Day.

Until Judgement DAY arrives..
Unsaved Departed living souls (from dead Bodys of Unsaved men)… reside in the discomfort of Hell… experiencing, separation from God, extreme heat without relief, Putrid odors without relief, whaling screams of discomfort of other unsaved souls without relief, dark and gloomy visuals without sunshine, day after day after day with no relief…
Until Judgement Day, when Life is departed from their soul…
And their lifeless body and lifeless soul burned up in the everlasting Fire….Never to again be MADE living.
 

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@Dan Clarkston

You both… falsely speak for others.
You both…ignore word highlights and meanings.

People are a group of Persons.
A person is a living human with body and soul.
A dead human is a body without life and his living soul departed.

No one has denied the Fire in hell is eternal.

The they and them / right and left are …
the…Righteous and UnRighteous…
the ..Saved and Unsaved.

The Righteous Saved ARE MADE, by Gods Power, to live Forever.

The UN-Righteous (unsaved) “are NOT” MADE to live Forever.

The Righteous Saved and Eternally MADE LIVING shall dwell WITH God Forever.

The UnRighteous, Unsaved, shall Be Judged,
ALL LIFE Departed from Them and Be sentenced to Be thrown into the Eternally burning Fire, and Burned up, remembered no more.

Their Punishment, Separation from God IS Eternal…
Their Punishment is Eternal…
That…Never shall there be an Offering, an Opportunity for their Body and Soul to Be forgiven, Restored, Made Alive Again, or With God.

Fallen angels shall be thrown in the same Eternal Fire.
They can NOT die, thus shall suffer burning alive forever, with no power to escape.

You two…have some weird teaching…
Of indicating “the UNRIGHTEOUS” are MADE to be alive Forever…so they can suffer A burning Fire Forever…


No where does Scripture Teach, such a silly notion that…UnRighteous men, are Made to be eternally Alive.

Seriously…
Fallen can not die and will suffer being in Fire they can not escape.

Human lifeless body’s feel zero torment being buried, burned, cremated, autopsied, eaten by animals!

Human mans Soul, becomes Dead, when God Removes his Breath of Life from that Soul… and THAT occurs… After finality of Judgement Day.

Until Judgement DAY arrives..
Unsaved Departed living souls (from dead Bodys of Unsaved men)… reside in the discomfort of Hell… experiencing, separation from God, extreme heat without relief, Putrid odors without relief, whaling screams of discomfort of other unsaved souls without relief, dark and gloomy visuals without sunshine, day after day after day with no relief…
Until Judgement Day, when Life is departed from their soul…
And their lifeless body and lifeless soul burned up in the everlasting Fire….Never to again be MADE living.
Hell is gonna be filled with BILLIONS of Bible deniers.

Revelation 20:15
15 Anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
 

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Hell is gonna be filled with BILLIONS of Bible deniers.

Revelation 20:15
15 Anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Well no kidding!

Righteous Vs unrighteous.
 

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You said “Jesus said People”… but that is not mentioned in any Scripture you quoted.

He's talking about people there Einstein

Those listening to demons play word games just like the devil did when trying to tempt Jesus
 

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He's talking about people there Einstein

Those listening to demons play word games just like the devil did when trying to tempt Jesus
Demons love leading people to Hell! Satan has BILLIONS of messengers.
 

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Demons love leading people to Hell! Satan has BILLIONS of messengers.

Yep and by telling people they will cease to exist rather than be tormented in hell as Jesus teaches, a lot of people will hear this and decided to not get born again and instead keep living in sin.

Those teaching the heresy of annihilationism are actually teaching doctrines of demons and are speaking in behalf of the devil whether they realize it or not.
 

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Yep and by telling people they will cease to exist rather than be tormented in hell as Jesus teaches, a lot of people will hear this and decided to not get born again and instead keep living in sin.

Those teaching the heresy of annihilationism are actually teaching doctrines of demons and are speaking in behalf of the devil whether they realize it or not.
When they are in Hell TRILLIONS of years they will wish they were annihilated!
 

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Yep and by telling people they will cease to exist rather than be tormented in hell as Jesus teaches,

lot of people will hear this and decided to not get born again and instead keep living in sin.

… you keep repetitively reinforcing what you claim is doctrines of demons…

… maybe they will follow you on a wayward path.


Those teaching the heresy of annihilationism are actually teaching doctrines of demons and are speaking in behalf of the devil whether they realize it or not.

You teaching Eternal life is given Unrighteous humans (so they can Suffer eternally )… is not Scriptural.
 
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